丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, LeotheGreat said: "mass ghosting, shell alliance hits" It's not ghosting/a shell if you actually get a community to form a subcommunity and break off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeremy Graham Posted April 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Since people are complaining about the 6-month NAP and the stagnation of the game, I'm looking forward to all the non-participants starting something up in the near future! As for those who fought in the war, it was good (and sometimes painful) fun while it lasted. Edited April 19, 2018 by Jeremy Graham 3 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Subcomendante Marcos Posted April 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2018 Thanks to all sides, IQ and non-IQ for interesting war. I'm proud that I might to fight for IQ. Fighting against Rose, Golden Horde, AIM and KT was a great pleasure for me, you are a good fighters (especially AIM). Ayyy lmao. BK STRONK. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jeremy Graham said: Since people are complaining about the 6-month NAP and the stagnation of the game, I'm looking forward to all the non-participants to start something up in the near future! As for those who fought in the war, it was good (and sometimes painful) fun while it lasted. You're essentially asking TKR to roll you here. Seeing as how most of the game just signed a 6 month NAP. This ignoring that what you said wasn't a valid counterpoint to the issued to begin with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeremy Graham Posted April 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Lairah said: You're essentially asking TKR to roll you here. Seeing as how most of the game just signed a 6 month NAP. This ignoring that what you said wasn't a valid counterpoint to the issued to begin with. I didn't mean to counter anything. I'm just saying that since some people (including non-participants) see this as a move towards stagnation and are actively bashing it (and I agree 6 months can seem long), I can expect them to actively try start something up. Is that an unfair assumption to make? Those in the war actually committed a lot of time and effort to fight it, so I'm not going to bash those who were involved in the war. And last time I heard, even with a 3-month NAP Orbis had no wars for more than 6 months. Also, I don't think your TKR comment makes any sense. But okay I guess. Edited April 18, 2018 by Jeremy Graham 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 no sigs on the OP, fake peace, keep fighting boys and girls! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buorhann Posted April 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, durmij said: Marginally better than a 3 month war that accomplishes nothing, but a six month NAP is ridiculously excessive. 90 days would have been plenty, 60 would have been ideal. Now the only fun to be had is placing bets on who merges into BK next. Let's put it in a different perspective. A lot of the critics of the 6mo NAP, could've helped tip the scales to reduce that term, or they had indirectly effected the war by hitting some supporters (IE: NB getting hit, when NB was initially on the supporting side against IQ). Other than that, this war could've easily gone another month or two months before a clear outcome would be established. The war mechanics nowadays makes it really hard to force surrenders, but IQ did have an advantage with their numbers and Air superiority. If a war was to be tilted to who would win, it'd involve one side having to drastically change their strategy. Our side went with a more guerilla warfare once we lost out on the Air, and they kept up with the Air strat. Any changes to those would've easily involved more resources being drained. So with that said, war could've easily lasted longer. Then after that a 3mo NAP, which is par for the course with most wars. So you're looking at roughly 4-5mos right there. This is a 6mo NAP. So it basically evens out when it comes to it. Edited April 18, 2018 by Buorhann 9 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Jeremy Graham said: I didn't mean to counter anything. I'm just saying that since people see this as a move towards stagnation (and I agree 6 months is long), others will be actively trying to start something up. Is that an unfair assumption to make? Considering the 9 months prior of peace even despite not having a NAP for 2/3 of it, i would say it is fairly evident that the answer to your question is "Yes, yes it is." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonK Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Meh, as much as I instigated my opponents, I had fun in the war. Shame I'll have to LITERALLY HOLD MYSELF FROM HAVING FUN FOR 6 MONTHS. Other than that, well fought everyone, and let's roll TKR next. ARRGH! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Graham Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lairah said: Considering the 9 months prior of peace even despite not having a NAP for 2/3 of it, i would say it is fairly evident that the answer to your question is "Yes, yes it is." So how is that on those that fought the war? Or this NAP for that matter? Even if it was a shorter NAP, people wouldn't have fought wars immediately after it expired anyways according to your logic. The people that fought the war were the ones that broke that 9-month peace. Edited April 18, 2018 by Jeremy Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalev60 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 If any IQ members on list merge into one another the NAP is null-invoid, right? Am I doing this treaty-chess e-lawyering right here ? Congrants on both sides for finishing this up and I guess people more interesting in pixel-building won at the end. Quote Charlie Chaplin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Just now, Jeremy Graham said: So how is that on those that fought the war? Since i'm assuming TKR, TCW, Guardian, etc did not hold a gun to your heads to make you say "Yes, 6 months NAP for most of the game is very good.", the answer to your question is once again very evident indeed. You of course must remember, for the next 6 months, most of the game is treaty bound from touching each other. That's the fault of yourselves for agreeing to it. The only real war that could happen now involves somebody putting on their man-pants and deciding TKR needs to be a number other than 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeremy Graham Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Lairah said: Since i'm assuming TKR, TCW, Guardian, etc did not hold a gun to your heads to make you say "Yes, 6 months NAP for most of the game is very good.", the answer to your question is once again very evident indeed. You of course must remember, for the next 6 months, most of the game is treaty bound from touching each other. That's the fault of yourselves for agreeing to it. The only real war that could happen now involves somebody putting on their man-pants and deciding TKR needs to be a number other than 1. There can be plenty of smaller-scale conflicts. You only seem to want globals. Adeptus Mechanicus can start something interesting as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diocletian Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, LordStrum said: I remember when we vehemently shit on the idea of a 6 month NAP because it was too long. Man, those were the days. Too bad they're far gone. Always a way around these things. IQ will continue to merge into NPO/BK whilst the rest of us can just rebrand and do it again in a couple months. Easy enough solution Quote "The happiness of the people, and the peace of the empire, and the glory of the reign are linked with the fortune of the Army." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Buorhann said: L-snip- You're right, it's just feels so wrong. Like, this is what the game's become. Play it twice a year if you're absolutely lucky, (raiders not withstanding). Hopefully all the big boys actually do something new FA wise instead of faffing about like they have been. 4 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Olafr of the Faroes Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Logged in to upvote Buorhann. This now feels like a loss. Btw, if I'm Lordaeron, did I win? 1 Quote "Don't argue with members of The Golden Horde. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Probably someone on OWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva-Beatrice Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 3 Quote When the seagulls cried, none were left alive. "If life is a miracle, then death is a certainty." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Mad Titan Posted April 18, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, durmij said: Hopefully all the big boys actually do something new FA wise instead of faffing about like they have been. IQ is always looking for new friends. We lost a lot of paper the last month so hopefully that makes us more inviting! 7 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, LeotheGreat said: "mass ghosting, shell alliance hits" @Lordship said that it's all good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuru Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, Buorhann said: A lot of the critics of the 6mo NAP, could've helped tip the scales to reduce that term, or they had indirectly effected the war by hitting some supporters (IE: NB getting hit, when NB was initially on the supporting side against IQ). I guess then NB shouldn't have looked like they were just sitting around and should've actually joined. Can't blame us tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, durmij said: You're right, it's just feels so wrong. Like, this is what the game's become. Play it twice a year if you're absolutely lucky, (raiders not withstanding). Hopefully all the big boys actually do something new FA wise instead of faffing about like they have been. It's not bad, it just involves more innovation with the strategies. If IQ had used this strat a couple of major wars ago, they'd have easily won, no doubt about it. However, now it would've came down to what would've drained resources first - 1 Ship Raids or Airstrikes. I'd easily lean on the former, but even then I acknowledge it would've gone a long time to do it. The resource stockpile was high to try to burn through. All in all though, I had fun. A lot of my alliance members had fun. My little coalition had fun (NSR/IoM/RW). Sure, there were some frustrating times, but overall? It got us involved. My personal objective was to do something in this game after that 9+mo abomination of peace. 1 minute ago, Mitsuru said: I guess then NB shouldn't have looked like they were just sitting around and should've actually joined. Can't blame us tbh They did. They had a few battles opened up on IQ. Granted it was a handful, but it was there. 2 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuru Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Buorhann said: They did. They had a few battles opened up on IQ. Granted it was a handful, but it was there. You're right but the one that might've done the most wars as NB member was Boyce. And to be honest, it's Boyce. He flips around between Arrgh and NK all the time. So personally I thought "Well, it's Boyce" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buorhann said: It's not bad, it just involves more innovation with the strategies. If IQ had used this strat a couple of major wars ago, they'd have easily won, no doubt about it. However, now it would've came down to what would've drained resources first - 1 Ship Raids or Airstrikes. I'd easily lean on the former, but even then I acknowledge it would've gone a long time to do it. The resource stockpile was high to try to burn through. All in all though, I had fun. A lot of my alliance members had fun. My little coalition had fun (NSR/IoM/RW). Sure, there were some frustrating times, but overall? It got us involved. My personal objective was to do something in this game after that 9+mo abomination of peace. They did. They had a few battles opened up on IQ. Granted it was a handful, but it was there. That sounds less like NB entered the war and more like they were just raiding, frankly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonK Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Eva-Beatrice said: Why does it matter to you, not that you fought in it or anything 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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