Administrators Popular Post Alex Posted April 14, 2017 Administrators Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2017 Hey, So right around update time tonight we had a massive server load. Even two hours after the fact, we were running at 200% of the CPU's performance. Essentially what happened was that the server's memory got overloaded and prevented the database from doing its usual database stuff, which resulted in the main update not happening according to plan. We've taken steps to prevent this from happening in the future, by setting up memory limitations and looking into upgrading the server. Next time you should just experience longer load times instead of outright breaking the damn machine. While I'm ultimately responsible, I can say that this wasn't the result of anything I did directly. Usually it's me tinkering with things at a poor time - this time I totally left things alone and you all still managed to find a way to break things. Rolling back the server to ~3 hours ago does not appear to be a feasible option. It would take a long time to do successfully, and ultimately I want the game to be available and running for you guys. I understand someone is probably going to be hurt by these events, and someone is going to be helped. To be honest, I haven't even looked at who's fighting who and I'm entirely indifferent. My apologies to the people who's blitz got screwed up, and the extra time the opposition (now) has. In the spirit of some fairness. I'm announcing that I'll be manually firing the main update (MAP increase, military rebuy) at 3AM server time. So you've got about 20min to prepare. Again, my deepest apologies, and this shouldn't happen again. But I guess we found out what happens when 500+ people all try to declare war on each other at the same time. 11 Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodo Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobby the Free Elf Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 YOU BLITZED TOO EARLY 5 Quiet people have the loudest minds. A wise man once said nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Looks like the stupidity from the war system spread to the game script. 2 Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Lannister Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I feel like people should inform you before going to war next time just so you're actually online at that time to fix something that might(read: will) go wrong! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaxon Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 In 20 mins he's going to make everyone join Rose again. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 So, a new in game "day" will start at 3 AM in game time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazimierz the Great Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Yay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemal Ergenekon Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 this time I totally left things alone and you all still managed to find a way to break things. Or maybe you should have bought a server that doesn't break when we *actually* play the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™ Posted April 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2017 P/W server at update: P/W server now: Images courtesy of Getty images 2017. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 So to apologise to 500ish nations overloading the server declaring war.You've given 1000+ nations the excuse to overload the server to buy units. K. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt2004 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Move off Windows ME. Edited April 14, 2017 by Matt2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placentica Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 No worries Alex. For those of us that have been around these types of games, we know it happens often in these types of situations. 2 Hello! If you don't like this post please go here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verin Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 das some good stuff right there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELPINCHAZO Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 why the hell are you using a single physical server? https://www.simple-talk.com/cloud/cloud-development/amazons-aurora-a-distributed-sql-database-alternative-for-mysql-applications/ FFS man,take care of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 This should mostly be a wash in terms of a side benefiting, there were blitzes on both sides. Thanks for being diligent about fixing the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakyr Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Smashy smashy, burn burn Hmm, I smell burning electronics ... oops ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rache Olderen Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 In 20 mins he's going to make everyone join Rose again. #MakeRoseGreatAgain 2nd, 4th, and 6th Adelphotes Princeps of Cornerstone, Ambassador to Black Knights, 4th Grand Pilus of Cornerstone, 2nd Chaplain of Cornerstone, 5th Questor Princeps of Cornerstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willam von Waldreich Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 To everyone complaining...seriously? Crap is going to happen, crap is going to break, and sever hamsters are going to die...it's part of it. It's easy to sit in you lazy boy computer chair eating your pizza pocket and complain about the server going down. Servers are expensive to buy or build and requires at least a T1 line to run at top speed which is an added expense. Of course if he's using a 3rd party server which most do they charge quite a bit for the service and make you pay per space used and per user. So all that said if you were just bsing around then that's one thing, but if you were seriously upset over the outtage...next month's server rent is on you. The United States of Belveria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaakopu Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Congrats bk. We did it. Again. 3 wait this isnt black knights forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopeless Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 BK Stronk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemal Ergenekon Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 To everyone complaining...seriously? Crap is going to happen, crap is going to break, and sever hamsters are going to die...it's part of it. It's easy to sit in you lazy boy computer chair eating your pizza pocket and complain about the server going down. Servers are expensive to buy or build and requires at least a T1 line to run at top speed which is an added expense. Of course if he's using a 3rd party server which most do they charge quite a bit for the service and make you pay per space used and per user. So all that said if you were just bsing around then that's one thing, but if you were seriously upset over the outtage...next month's server rent is on you. As is revealed by the OP, the server crash is a consequence of bad hardware and bad coding. If the code did not allow things to break down, server would have slowed down, but the update would happen. Also, the spike of activity at day change is a direct consequence of how the game is designed. Alex was provided with advice to prevent this by making the troops you can train trickle up every turn change instead of day change. If he had followed that advice, the wars could happen at any turn change, and it wouldn't be such a game changer. Nor would there be such activity spikes as we have seen. So take your insults and stuff them into your pizza pockets, kiddo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurdanak Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) As per tradition. \o/ Edited April 15, 2017 by Kurdanak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted April 15, 2017 Author Administrators Share Posted April 15, 2017 As is revealed by the OP, the server crash is a consequence of bad hardware and bad coding. If the code did not allow things to break down, server would have slowed down, but the update would happen. Also, the spike of activity at day change is a direct consequence of how the game is designed. Alex was provided with advice to prevent this by making the troops you can train trickle up every turn change instead of day change. If he had followed that advice, the wars could happen at any turn change, and it wouldn't be such a game changer. Nor would there be such activity spikes as we have seen. So take your insults and stuff them into your pizza pockets, kiddo. The issue was the memory allocated to the database wasn't appropriately capped, which has been resolved. As for the turn update deal, I did write out a whole system that eliminated the turn update, tested it on the test server, and like basically all changes - no one liked it, so I scrapped it. It's not as if I didn't try. People complain now once and a while, but when I come up with a solution (which requires a pretty drastic change in mechanics) people complain and want it to just stay the way it is. /me shrugs Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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