Popular Post Mikey Posted January 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 The Seven Kingdoms is an old alliance. Over the years we have seen many leaders, and we have been many things to many people; allies and enemies, friends and villains, leaders and isolationists. One thing we have never been are push overs. We do not take kindly to being threatened, and we do not give in to threats of arms. Something Terminus Est is about to find out the hard way. As some may have seen, roughly two weeks ago one of our members raided a 1 man micro alliance and made off with over a billion in loot. As it turns out, this nation had been sent from TEst to hide and guard a share of their bank. A clever move, and aside from the one hiccup, one that worked quite well for them. Nevertheless they were understandably unenthused about losing the assets. Enter Prefontaine, who approached us with a request to return the resources that were looted. We refused and were given the PW equivalent of the classic mob extortion scheme, wherein we were informed that soon enough TEst, lovers of battle that they are, will be looking for a new war. We will be very "popular" targets due to the raid and found ourselves at war. Unless of course we gave it back. Yes Pre this is a nice place we've got here. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it. But we don't plan on paying you to ensure that. As far as we're concerned our member engaged in a perfectly valid raid and was entitled to the money. At the time the nation in question was not in TEst but was in a 1 man alliance flying the now defunct VoC affiliation with no visible ties to TEst. Moreover he had previously raided us, so we fail to see why any counter raid on our part and its resulting winnings should be illegitimate. Even if he had been in TEst at the time, the fact that we were being raided alone is enough for us to consider Jawas strike legitimate. It's a risk that comes with guarding your money that way, and amplified by your raids on us. As for Jawas post on the OWF which was mentioned....some may consider the gloating in poor taste. But if you are triggered by banter on the forums, you may be playing the wrong game. The timing of this war is not good for TEst. It is true they are recently coming out of another conflict. But we aren't the ones who issued the ultimatum. We are the ones responding to it. TL:DR: We could give back the resources looted or face war when they got over the rebuild. We chose war, and we decided to have it now instead. The Seven Kingdoms officially declares war on Terminus Est. 19 Quote Archduke Tyrell, Lord of Highgarden, Lord Paramount of the Reach, Warden of the South, Breaker of Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Unfortunately val was not around to hand write our announcements (unreadable as it may be I find it a nice touch) so I scroll-ified it the digital way and posted. Quote Archduke Tyrell, Lord of Highgarden, Lord Paramount of the Reach, Warden of the South, Breaker of Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Bullies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch Vi Britannia Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) "And so they went to war, not for glory or revenge, but for money" Props to MOAR WAR Edited January 30, 2017 by Lelouch Vi Britannia Quote Ex-Archduke of Defence for BK 3 minutes ago, Buorhann said: @Lelouch Vi Britannia - BK needs you, but they really don't deserve you. Thanks for the dankness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Coolidge Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 GO KILL EM interesting timing tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Neat Edit GO KILL EM interesting timing tho Hey, never let sound military strategy get in the way of a good war. Edited January 30, 2017 by durmij 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurdanak Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Man, this is giving me some weird flashbacks to the early days of SK and TEst being at each other's throats. Have fun with another round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidude45454 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 ...so SK declares on TEst right after the first two splinters break off, and during an econ period. As far as I know plans to attack you were never put into play and I for one basically forgot about SK once my splinter started. So just what exactly are you trying to accomplish through this? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Coolidge Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 ...so SK declares on TEst right after the first two splinters break off, and during an econ period. As far as I know plans to attack you were never put into play and I for one basically forgot about SK once my splinter started. So just what exactly are you trying to accomplish through this? to win, learn it sometime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmokenny Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 This just smells fishy. Im gonna need some logs before Ill believe TEst was planning on attacking someone besides Alpha. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cypher Posted January 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 Not willing to save Valyria when they were getting rolled but will always jump in against a beaten TEst. Classy as always SK. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Congratulations on the spine, SK. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooves Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Putting aside the other things. I'm curious to see the logs showing this discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verin Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 BURN BABY BURN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betulius Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 >waits until after I leave 3 Quote Dec 26 18:48:22 <JacobH[Arrgh]> God your worse the grealind >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Thrax Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Have fun! Pretty reasonable response, imo. 2 Quote Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe. ~ William S. Burroughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sketchy Posted January 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 Enter Prefontaine, who approached us with a request to return the resources that were looted. We refused and were given the PW equivalent of the classic mob extortion scheme, wherein we were informed that soon enough TEst, lovers of battle that they are, will be looking for a new war. We will be very "popular" targets due to the raid and found ourselves at war. Unless of course we gave it back. Yes Pre this is a nice place we've got here. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it. But we don't plan on paying you to ensure that. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiri Arch Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 This is like buying all Negevs on the 15th win in Dust II, and rushing B. Meme on SK. Quote Officer Nasty reporting for duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woot Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 SK militarization: 67% soldiers, 42% tanks, 77% air TEST militarization: 9% soldiers, 4% tanks, 15% air 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kurdanak Posted January 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) BREAKING: Meme economists everywhere are blind-sided by a sudden resurgence in the "putting Pre's face on shit" market! Edited January 30, 2017 by Kurdanak 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 How many times can Pref get his alliance rolled? 1 Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) How many times can Pref get his alliance rolled? And by SK, yikes. Edited January 30, 2017 by Avruch 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhuto Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 o/fight good luck to both TEst and SK have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Now the million dollar question is, what is polaris doing? Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Not willing to save Valyria when they were getting rolled but will always jump in against a beaten TEst. Classy as always SK. Gonna stick with this talking point? They reached peace after 2 days of fighting before we, polaris, nights watch and loarderon were going to blitz. I don't know why things were resolved to fast, I wasn't in those talks. But I don't think its unreasonable to expect allies who were caught unprepared to take a few days to militarize (I admit we were woefully unprepared for that) and then hit when they have the chance to actually change the impact of the war. In this case things were wrapped up almost immediately before that could happen. This just smells fishy. Im gonna need some logs before Ill believe TEst was planning on attacking someone besides Alpha. Its not literally a direct threat in the same way the typical "hate to see something happen to this place" isn't technically either. No its just, you know, we'll build back up from this in a bit. When that happens we'll want to start a new war. You'll be really popular as a target if you don't give this back. But if you do give it back I bet you wont be so popular. Its not exactly subtle in its implications. I'm not, to be clear, offering any righteous indignation or moral anger over this. Its a lot of money to lose and its not unreasonable to want to try and get it back, even if it was legitimately raided. This is, after all, a game of politics. And so he chose a political gamble. Will be back down under the threat of force or not? Given the perception people have we were scared of them before, and given even a winning war stands to do more damage to us than what you asked for, its not unreasonable to think we might choose to surrender the resources. Maybe other alliances would. Maybe we would with other leaders or in other circumstances, though I doubt it. But it any case this time we chose not to. Now we either let your suggested course of events - wherein you recover from the papers war, look to start a new one, and choose the overwhelmingly popular SK option - take place, or we start that war now. This is not a "good" fight. This is not a "fair" fight. We are not looking to demonstrate our military power or anything (how could this be so given the militarization disparities?) We're just speeding up the options you gave us so we can get it over with now rather than later. 4 Quote Archduke Tyrell, Lord of Highgarden, Lord Paramount of the Reach, Warden of the South, Breaker of Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.