Cornerstone's Priests Survey the Battlefield

[Calvin Coolidge]

lol, I'm not active enough to even know which side has the advantage so that doesn't really mean much Also, I'm set to gain billions in damages so honestly the idea that I decided to join for an easy war with little to lose is pretty funny It sounds like somebody is bitter they didn't get a chance to spar with me Hit me up in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) if you want another war (open to anybody, its boring there at the moment...)

That's because kiwis can't fly, everyone knows that

[Bambino]

The Grand Pilus was posting his own beliefs and hopes. However he must go along with the Senate vote on the affair which took place after this was posted and by a vote of 8-6-1 (aye-nay-abstain) Cornerstone decided to get involved. The GP can't just order us to war like other alliances and most things are voted on. And hence why after any war starts it takes us a maximum of three days to actually declare or get involved (extenuating circumstances barred)(two for voting limits and one for actual prep and talk with allies if it hasn't been done already).

 

This is good information to know.  We'll be sure to exploit this next time your allies get attacked.  

[DVDCCHN]

To be fair, we really weren't planning on it. We hope for a fast conclusion (but that could just be hoping) and have lots of respect for TEst and friends and still wish them the best.

True story, and thank you guys

[Rache Olderen]

This is good information to know.  We'll be sure to exploit this next time your allies get attacked.  

Note that I said extenuating circumstances barred. Shifting over to Discord has upped our response time and we are more and more aiming for the result is agreed upon as soon as one gets a majority. My three days max estimate was how long it would take us to agree on war before Discord when we focused on forums and Slack (which required an allied request, it being agreed by several Senators in Slack, the poll being established in the forum to decide to go to war or not, and all Senators being messaged to get on the forums to vote). Now it is more or less "Bring it up to a vote in the vote thread, you have 24 hours or until a quorum to be reached. Just type in 'Aye' 'Nay' or 'Abstain'"

 

So in theory we could be at war the same day depending on how proactive we are and what time we bring it to a vote (and when our allies ask if we want to join in or not). It took us just 16 hours to vote on it and 19 to actually declare war.

Edited December 29, 2016 by Rache Olderen

[seabasstion]

why would you even need to vote if you have a mutual defense pact. you already voted you would go to war when you voted to sign that treaty

[Senatorius]

Don't question the disfunctional internal politics Seabass!!! Christians never agree on anything

[Tywin Lannister]

I can't help but find CS a nice bunch, despite the very stupid communications blunders and absolutely silly policies, you guys seem fun in your own way. 

[jaguar]

Why would I want to miss out on all the fun on one of the few times I'm not either bogged down with Uni work or on holiday without wifi?  I needed to lose a bit of weight anyway

"A bit"

[Bambino]

Note that I said extenuating circumstances barred. Shifting over to Discord has upped our response time and we are more and more aiming for the result is agreed upon as soon as one gets a majority. My three days max estimate was how long it would take us to agree on war before Discord when we focused on forums and Slack (which required an allied request, it being agreed by several Senators in Slack, the poll being established in the forum to decide to go to war or not, and all Senators being messaged to get on the forums to vote). Now it is more or less "Bring it up to a vote in the vote thread, you have 24 hours or until a quorum to be reached. Just type in 'Aye' 'Nay' or 'Abstain'"

 

So in theory we could be at war the same day depending on how proactive we are and what time we bring it to a vote (and when our allies ask if we want to join in or not). It took us just 16 hours to vote on it and 19 to actually declare war.

 

I'm uncertain of what your exact M level of treaty is, but if it's a straight M level treaty, shouldn't it be an immediate declaration of war rather than !@#$ footing around and dithering while wringing your hands until the obvious winner has been asserted?  If it's an Mn level treaty, shouldn't you be completely staying out of this since your allies are the ones that began the war as an aggressive war?  If you're exercising it as an oA, what exactly does that say about you to declare on a series of alliances that are completely outgunned and that allies didn't need help with?  Wouldn't the smarter thing to have been to stay in peace mode and help get cash available to help your allies post war?  I dunno, I guess I"ve never really seen CS actually live up to what it professes.

 

Don't get me wrong.  The more the merrier, I just think it's a little silly to declare war when you can't actually do anything materially (in any meaningful way).

 

why would you even need to vote if you have a mutual defense pact. you already voted you would go to war when you voted to sign that treaty

 

This.  Plus what I said above.

[Rob Semloh]

It's mutual with a non-chaining option with everyone except The Coalition, which is a straight mutual defense treaty. 

 

EDIT: And TLF, who we protect, which is more of a one-way thing.

Edited December 29, 2016 by Robert P. Holmes III

[Bambino]

It's mutual with a non-chaining option with everyone except The Coalition, which is a straight mutual defense treaty. 

 

EDIT: And TLF, who we protect, which is more of a one-way thing.

 

So, basically you oA'd into something you didn't need to oA into?  Why take the political backlash?  Though, I guess the only political backlash you really care about is what the people on your side have.

[Senatorius]

Everyone voted in or out for different reasons... some voted out for the reasons you have pointed out but for others it was a case of our friends and allies asked us to. It could be seen as the paperless philosophy having an impact on how alliances view their treaties I suppose.

[Les Paul Supreme]

So, basically you oA'd into something you didn't need to oA into?  Why take the political backlash?  Though, I guess the only political backlash you really care about is what the people on your side have.

No, so far as we're concerned even with the non-chaining aspect to the treaty it is manditory for us.  The real reason for having it is to prevent us from being dragged into a war which is obviously immoral from our side as opposed to sitting out when we feel like it  All those I've been fighting so far in TEst have been been honorable and a pleasure to fight with so far, lets not tarnish their image by trying to twist words for propaganda Bambino  

[Rob Semloh]

We all had our different reasons for voting the way we voted, but the war vote won, and that's the vote we honor.

[Sylvia]

Without abandoning our treaty partners and obligations therein, it is not much of a secret that we are trying to mostly stay out of the upcoming festivities due to some religious consensus among our leaders.

 

We still want to contribute, however, so we have decided to bless the battlefield before it becomes soaked in blood, gunpowder, and unexploded ordinance.

 

Apparently although you "tried" to stay "mostly" out of the war, you failed.  Well, as the saying goes, "If at first you don't succeed, try try again."  At least the battlefield is blessed I suppose.  Better luck next war.

 

(or you could just not post a position on the war without being sure of your position, but maybe that's just me)

Edited December 30, 2016 by Sylvia

[saeton]

lol, I'm not active enough to even know which side has the advantage so that doesn't really mean much  Also, I'm set to gain billions in damages so honestly the idea that I decided to join for an easy war with little to lose is pretty funny   It sounds like somebody is bitter they didn't get a chance to spar with me  Hit me up in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) if you want another war (open to anybody, its boring there at the moment...)

 

mfw my first degree was in medicine and i still had 10 minutes a day to fight and then go back to studying.

[EliteCanada]

Man, I really like Les Paul Supreme and CS. Idk him, and I don't really know CS well either, but they can take a lot of this here shit posting, and salt, from an AA of (at least some) pixel huggers pretty well. 

Edited December 30, 2016 by EliteCanada

[Les Paul Supreme]

mfw my first degree was in medicine and i still had 10 minutes a day to fight and then go back to studying.

That may be true, the problem is I do quite a lot IRL besides just my degree (president of a medical society and organizing the national committee for it, trying to get a few research papers published and quite an active social life among many other things). I don't have a smartphone so its not quite as easy for me to quickly log on What are you planning on specializing in Saeton?

Edited December 30, 2016 by Les Paul Supreme

[Tywin Lannister]

That may be true, the problem is I do quite a lot IRL besides just my degree (president of a medical society and organizing the national committee for it, trying to get a few research papers published and quite an active social life among many other things). I don't have a smartphone so its not quite as easy for me to quickly log on What are you planning on specializing in Saeton?

 

Why do you not have a smartphone? 

[Les Paul Supreme]

Why do you not have a smartphone? 

They cost a lot both to buy and to run.  I also need a pretty sturdy phone as I do a lot of outdoor extreme sports  For example, I forgot my current phone was in my pocket a month back when I went swimming in the sea XD  Thankfully its fully waterproof though so it was fine   Its quite handy having a phone which lasts for a week on one charge when I'm mountaineering as well (although the lack of a decent camera on it is a bit of a pain at times)   I also quite like not being connected the entire time rather than doing things IRL

Edited December 30, 2016 by Les Paul Supreme

[jaguar]

You're too nice. I almost feel bad you're getting rolled

[Les Paul Supreme]

You're too nice. I almost feel bad you're getting rolled

Don't feel bad,  I've always enjoyed a good war, its more fun when there's a bit of a challenge!  1 war down, 3 to go 

Edited December 30, 2016 by Les Paul Supreme

[Speaker Faris Wheeler]

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Edited December 30, 2016 by Red

[Speaker Faris Wheeler]

You're too nice. I almost feel bad you're getting rolled

lol Mr.Salt, maybe we can show the true screenshots!

 

TEst:

Edited December 30, 2016 by Red

[Rob Semloh]

Ours would look the same if this were happening to us.