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You lump all anti-globalists as Nazis by telling us to just list Stormfront and the KKK, then proceed to use Trump's alleged endorsements as "evidence".  I guess if a Nazi supports someone, then anyone else who supports them is a Nazi too lol.  Your logic is so flawed, yet you probably don't even realize it when you type.

You don't even know what the alt-right is.

The people here saying "use inforwars as a legit source" don't deserve my best logic. It would be wasted on them.

 

Of course you're getting a basic problem of "some Republicans are nazis, you're a Republican, so you're a nazi", is obviously untrue.  But the "stench" of being associated with nazis is real.  And the effective anti-globalist movement is being led by neo-nazis across Europe as well, so you aren't going to see the anti-globalist crowd get rid of the association quickly.

 

There has been a left-wing anti-globalist movement for more then 3 decades, but it has largely been ineffective, and conservatives laughed and cheered when police cracked the skulls of anti-globalist protesters, so I don't see them coming together anytime soon.

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There has been a left-wing anti-globalist movement for more then 3 decades, but it has largely been ineffective, and conservatives laughed and cheered when police cracked the skulls of anti-globalist protesters, so I don't see them coming together anytime soon.

I got maced in Washington State and Canada at the G-Cons.

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The people here saying "use inforwars as a legit source" don't deserve my best logic. It would be wasted on them.

 

Of course you're getting a basic problem of "some Republicans are nazis, you're a Republican, so you're a nazi", is obviously untrue.  But the "stench" of being associated with nazis is real.  And the effective anti-globalist movement is being led by neo-nazis across Europe as well, so you aren't going to see the anti-globalist crowd get rid of the association quickly.

 

There has been a left-wing anti-globalist movement for more then 3 decades, but it has largely been ineffective, and conservatives laughed and cheered when police cracked the skulls of anti-globalist protesters, so I don't see them coming together anytime soon.

 

I don't go with Infowars much, the conspiracy stuff can often be too much... however that is not to say they are completely worthless and on certain issues like mass immigration, Islam, and so forth they are certainly more truthful than the "legitimate mainstream sources" whose coverage consists of "Its all good".

 

Uh... incorrect. Across Europe "Neo-Nazis" actually have little in the way of power and do not drive the movement. In some places its the traditional Conservatives who oppose the "moderate" Conservatives (Conservatives for Globalism) and in others its those people call Fascists/Neo-Fascists which is often denied as Fascism is seen as a bad word though undeniably most of them seem to indeed be Fascists. 

So you could say the main driver of Anti-Globalism is Neo-/Fascists if you want, thats fine. Most of those parties have the "right wing" (I'd say its independent of the wings but whatever) position of being against mass immigration, many are traditionalist (though often less so than Conservatives), and so forth... but they also have many "left wing" positions such as on welfare and such. They do indeed seem to be some stripe of Fascist and thats fine. However to call them all Neo-Nazis is inaccurate for a Nazi is not synonymous with Fascist. You could say I suppose Not all Fascists are Nazis, but all Nazis are Fascists.

 

By the large those movements especially when they get near power are ineffective because they support certain policies of Globalism. For example left wingers against Globalism often will support mass immigration because they think morally or some guff they need to. 

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Did you even read what Aisha posted? He/she didn't even say *anything* about anti-globalism. 

  

 

evidence against what?????

 

 

Oh please, Professor Octavius, enlighten me on what the alt-right really is! /s

The first two are self-explanatory so I'm not even going to waste time on explaining it.  The alt-right is strictly a white European Identitarian movement formed in response to the increasingly anti-white agenda.  If you want to lump any conservative who's not a cucked neo-Con as "alt right" then go ahead, but you just show that you don't know the meaning of the phrase in the slightest.  Even so, you're free to call us whatever you want; it changes nothing and we aren't going to back down just to avoid being called a "racist" or "neo-nazi" or "alt-right" or whatever meaningless term you can come up with.  

"Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die."  -excerpt from the Havamal

 

"We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man."  -Oswald Spengler

 

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So you could say the main driver of Anti-Globalism is Neo-/Fascists if you want, thats fine.

You're right.  Calling all Fascists Nazi's isn't entirely accurate.  Although, the Trump crowd wanting a Muslim registry reminds me strongly of having Jews wear the star of David on their clothes in the Third Reich.  

 

Nazism was a branch of Fascism  I'm sure there's books exploring the differences.  For most purposes, I think its "close enough" to lump them together.

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The real difference between fascism and national socialism is the economics, that's about it

 

Although one could argue that natsocs wanted naught but a pure race, fascists basically wanted the same thing in the idea that "life is for the state", and, at the time, all those living in Italy were Italians.

 

You're right.  Calling all Fascists Nazi's isn't entirely accurate.  Although, the Trump crowd wanting a Muslim registry reminds me strongly of having Jews wear the star of David on their clothes in the Third Reich.  

 

Nazism was a branch of Fascism  I'm sure there's books exploring the differences.  For most purposes, I think its "close enough" to lump them together.

Fascists did not care about biological race nearly to level of National Socialists.  Aryan racial purity was a strictly Germanic concept at the time which was at the forefront of their ideology.  The Italian Fascists, on the other hand, cared about organic unity and loyalty to the state.  This would inevitable require a somewhat ethnically and culturally homogeneous community,  but they didn't have genetic tests and racial identification like the Germans.  The two are very different, probably because of the fact that they were adopted by two different peoples with uniquely separate identities.  

 

In response to your comparison of Muslims to Jews, I have to say that Islam is not a race unlike the Racial/Religious identity of a Jew.  Jews also had been living in Germany for a long time without blowing up buildings and murdering innocent people in the name of their god.  Not keeping tabs on the amount of Muslims we let in is pure stupidity; nothing more, nothing less.

"Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die."  -excerpt from the Havamal

 

"We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man."  -Oswald Spengler

 

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How does Trump win, people keep asking. Well, here it is: Trump voters spout such extreme bullshit, drawn from such great depths of stupidity, that the rest of us just can't bear to even bother engaging them. What use is arguing with a rock? And Trump supporters get angry and self-conscious, and wistfully think back to the days when they could just shove the smart kids around on the playground, and accuse us of being "elitist" and "arrogant." Perhaps, but you know what? Intelligence matters. Knowledge matters. Education matters. The ability to think and discern rationally matters

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Sorry, you're right - plain images are just immature, I'll go back to the gifs. ^_^

 

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Hypocrisy? I have contributed a great deal thank you very much. The last contribution I remember from you was when you posted some Bernie thread, got eviscerated by me, which then got you to say you were going to busy with phonebanking so you'd not be able to respond to my posts. Then Bernie got rekted and you didn't do as you said I have to assume as you were too busy crying. That has been your contribution. Meanwhile I pinned LordRahl2 (among others) and have been gloriously dominating.

 

You're right.  Calling all Fascists Nazi's isn't entirely accurate.  Although, the Trump crowd wanting a Muslim registry reminds me strongly of having Jews wear the star of David on their clothes in the Third Reich.  

 

Nazism was a branch of Fascism  I'm sure there's books exploring the differences.  For most purposes, I think its "close enough" to lump them together.

 

There is no close enough about these things. Most people and I doubt you also would use the Ultra Religious Conservatives or Ultra "Progressive" Liberals to paint everybody in the group. Fascism is a belief that rejects internationalism/globalism (back in the day the main opponent was Communism), and a belief that the government should bring business to heel if they will not support the people, which can be tariffs on a company's goods like Trump has put forward at a minimum, full on Nationalisation on the other end. Nazism follows that as its a Fascist aspect. Where you attacking on something like that then yes, while still inaccurate at least the other brands of Fascism would also have them.

 

However the strict and aggressive ethnic supremacy that Nazism has is not present in other brands of Fascism. They support cultural supremacy instead.

 

How does Trump win, people keep asking. Well, here it is: Trump voters spout such extreme bullshit, drawn from such great depths of stupidity, that the rest of us just can't bear to even bother engaging them. What use is arguing with a rock? And Trump supporters get angry and self-conscious, and wistfully think back to the days when they could just shove the smart kids around on the playground, and accuse us of being "elitist" and "arrogant." Perhaps, but you know what? Intelligence matters. Knowledge matters. Education matters. The ability to think and discern rationally matters

 

For someone apparently so smart you'd think you'd clue in at some point. All calling people stupid and the rest ever accomplished is to get people against whatever your message may be. Not everyone out there is this caricature you and others have made and perfectly ordinary and decent people see it and know you have disdain for them too.

 

Also get with the times, educated people supported Trump by large numbers. Try instead calling Trump and us all racists, its very effective I'm sure.

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How does Trump win, people keep asking. Well, here it is: Trump voters spout such extreme bullshit, drawn from such great depths of stupidity, that the rest of us just can't bear to even bother engaging them. What use is arguing with a rock? And Trump supporters get angry and self-conscious, and wistfully think back to the days when they could just shove the smart kids around on the playground, and accuse us of being "elitist" and "arrogant." Perhaps, but you know what? Intelligence matters. Knowledge matters. Education matters. The ability to think and discern rationally matters

>Compares Trump supporters with bullies who are self-conscious

>Proceeds to call all Trump supporters stupid without actually making an argument

>Doesn't realize that the very tactics he uses are indicative of low self-esteem and act as compensation for lack of reasoned argument, thus lumping himself in the same category that he lumps Trump supporters in

 

Sorry, but belittling others doesn't make you seem smart or intellectual, it just makes you look petty.

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"Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die."  -excerpt from the Havamal

 

"We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man."  -Oswald Spengler

 

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>Compares Trump supporters with bullies who are self-conscious

>Proceeds to call all Trump supporters stupid without actually making an argument

>Doesn't realize that the very tactics he uses are indicative of low self-esteem and act as compensation for lack of reasoned argument, thus lumping himself in the same category that he lumps Trump supporters in

 

Sorry, but belittling others doesn't make you seem smart or intellectual, it just makes you look petty.

 

You realize how stupid and inert it is for you specifically to write that? You've done the exact same thing several times over around this forum, it's just hypocritical of you to call someone else out on belittling someone. Not that it matters if you stop being hypocritical, from what I've seen I don't expect you could actually make a good argument about any subject.

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You realize how stupid and inert it is for you specifically to write that? You've done the exact same thing several times over around this forum, it's just hypocritical of you to call someone else out on belittling someone. Not that it matters if you stop being hypocritical, from what I've seen I don't expect you could actually make a good argument about any subject.

You are very dishonest and refuse to address his points. This is a thread about independent journalism and have you contributed nothing. 

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You realize how stupid and inert it is for you specifically to write that? You've done the exact same thing several times over around this forum, it's just hypocritical of you to call someone else out on belittling someone. Not that it matters if you stop being hypocritical, from what I've seen I don't expect you could actually make a good argument about any subject.

The only way I may have belittled someone is by grinding their argument into dust while proving them wrong, which makes their feeling of defeat inevitable(which is not a result of a personal attack).  That is much different than saying that you refuse to "waste your time" making an argument because "muh superiority" and "muh intellect" which is what you condescending, self-gratifying deceivers have been doing non-stop since the beginning anytime someone presents an opposing viewpoint.  Ignoring a good argument doesn't mean it doesn't exist, so until you actually show some honesty(and maybe contribute to the discussion), I won't waste any more time with you.  

 

Also, I do challenge you to find a thread where I belittled anyone who made a reasoned, calm, and non-personal argument.  I won't belittle anyone, but if they happen to wrong, I will call them out on it and if they resort to dishonest, backhanded tactics, I will treat them with only the utmost contempt.  This is how I do things, because I have absolutely zero tolerance for liars, weasels, and bullies.         

"Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die."  -excerpt from the Havamal

 

"We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man."  -Oswald Spengler

 

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You are very dishonest and refuse to address his points. This is a thread about independent journalism and have you contributed nothing. 

 

If I'm dishonest, you're an idiot. What gave you the impression I wanted to contribute to your flawed discussion?

 

The only way I may have belittled someone is by grinding their argument into dust while proving them wrong, which makes their feeling of defeat inevitable(which is not a result of a personal attack).  That is much different than saying that you refuse to "waste your time" making an argument because "muh superiority" and "muh intellect" which is what you condescending, self-gratifying deceivers have been doing non-stop since the beginning anytime someone presents an opposing viewpoint.  Ignoring a good argument doesn't mean it doesn't exist, so until you actually show some honesty(and maybe contribute to the discussion), I won't waste any more time with you.  

 

Also, I do challenge you to find a thread where I belittled anyone who made a reasoned, calm, and non-personal argument.  I won't belittle anyone, but if they happen to wrong, I will call them out on it and if they resort to dishonest, backhanded tactics, I will treat them with only the utmost contempt.  This is how I do things, because I have absolutely zero tolerance for liars, weasels, and bullies.         

 

See, you say you haven't belittled anyone and then you belittle someone in the very same paragraph. Do you just not know what it actually means or are you really that blind to your own actions? I haven't tried to ignore any of your so called "good arguments", they simply don't exist outside of your delusional perception of the world around you. I haven't seen you come anywhere close to grinding someone's argument into dust (lol), you're just a part of the alt-right circlejerk and you have changed nothing and no one. Even Solaire can craft better, more reasonable arguments than you and he's what, 16? You don't make good arguments, you call people names. It's easy to see that maturity really isn't your thing.

 

If you really have a zero tolerance for liars, weasels and bullies, you must really hate yourself. The fact that you support one of the biggest liars, weasels and bullies around these days makes it even more ironic. As for your challenge, you have belittled people (apparently without realizing it) in almost every thread I've interacted with you. See, you say that when someone is wrong you will treat them with utmost contempt. But what's actually the case is that you treat everyone who disagrees with you that exact way, even when it hasn't been proven by you or anyone else that they're wrong. If this is how you do things, you do them poorly and with flawed reasoning. Please do improve yourself and do better, for all our sakes.

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Hypocrisy? I have contributed a great deal thank you very much. The last contribution I remember from you was when you posted some Bernie thread, got eviscerated by me, which then got you to say you were going to busy with phonebanking so you'd not be able to respond to my posts. Then Bernie got rekted and you didn't do as you said I have to assume as you were too busy crying. That has been your contribution. Meanwhile I pinned LordRahl2 (among others) and have been gloriously dominating.

lol, you assume immediately that the gif was directed at you and not still at Chickensguys. You do contribute (whether those contributions are sensical or not is another question :P). I can't actually be bothered to debate here, it's pointless and I get no real appeal from it. I just that I know you must be feeling lonely without LordRahl2 pressing your buttons so efficiently, someone's got to make sure they aren't completely stuck. :D Edited by Kurdanak
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If I'm dishonest, you're an idiot. What gave you the impression I wanted to contribute to your flawed discussion?

 

 

See, you say you haven't belittled anyone and then you belittle someone in the very same paragraph. Do you just not know what it actually means or are you really that blind to your own actions? I haven't tried to ignore any of your so called "good arguments", they simply don't exist outside of your delusional perception of the world around you. I haven't seen you come anywhere close to grinding someone's argument into dust (lol), you're just a part of the alt-right circlejerk and you have changed nothing and no one. Even Solaire can craft better, more reasonable arguments than you and he's what, 16? You don't make good arguments, you call people names. It's easy to see that maturity really isn't your thing.

 

If you really have a zero tolerance for liars, weasels and bullies, you must really hate yourself. The fact that you support one of the biggest liars, weasels and bullies around these days makes it even more ironic. As for your challenge, you have belittled people (apparently without realizing it) in almost every thread I've interacted with you. See, you say that when someone is wrong you will treat them with utmost contempt. But what's actually the case is that you treat everyone who disagrees with you that exact way, even when it hasn't been proven by you or anyone else that they're wrong. If this is how you do things, you do them poorly and with flawed reasoning. Please do improve yourself and do better, for all our sakes.

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to regard or portray as less impressive or important than appearances indicate; depreciate; disparage.  

 

 

Despising those who lie is not belittling lol.  Now you twist my words and say that I treat someone with contempt if they are wrong... Such dishonesty, it's sad.  This is what I said: and if they resort to dishonest, backhanded tactics, I will treat them with only the utmost contempt.  

 

Thanks for proving my point.  Cheers.

"Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die."  -excerpt from the Havamal

 

"We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man."  -Oswald Spengler

 

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lol, you assume immediately that the gif was directed at you and not still at Chickensguys. You do contribute (whether those contributions are sensical or not is another question :P). I can't actually be bothered to debate here, it's pointless and I get no real appeal from it. I just that I know you must be feeling lonely without LordRahl2 pressing your buttons so efficiently, someone's got to make sure they aren't completely stuck. :D

If you don't have any useful contributions to the argument, then don't say anything.  You just seem petty to me that you take the time to throw gifs and one liners at those who are actually making arguments while you cower away anytime someone asks you to prove your statements or assumptions with factual evidence.  If we aren't worth your time, then !@#$ off and stop posting here.

"Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die."  -excerpt from the Havamal

 

"We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man."  -Oswald Spengler

 

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If you don't have any useful contributions to the argument, then don't say anything.  You just seem petty to me that you take the time to throw gifs and one liners at those who are actually making arguments while you cower away anytime someone asks you to prove your statements or assumptions with factual evidence.  If we aren't worth your time, then !@#$ off and stop posting here.

Gifs are love, gifs are life. I'm simply offended that you suggest I censor my beliefs and lifestyle.

 

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belittle

to regard or portray as less impressive or important than appearances indicate; depreciate; disparage.  

 

 

Despising those who lie is not belittling lol.  Now you twist my words and say that I treat someone with contempt if they are wrong... Such dishonesty, it's sad.  This is what I said: and if they resort to dishonest, backhanded tactics, I will treat them with only the utmost contempt.  

 

Thanks for proving my point.  Cheers.

 

 

Was your point that you're more interested in talking shit about people than you are about actually constructing a meaningful argument? I'd have to agree.

 

Maybe I did misread what you said about contempt but that doesn't change the fact that you do treat people with contempt when you believe they're wrong even if you claim you only resort to such.. childish behaviour when people use "dishonest, backhanded tactics" such as asking you to actually look up facts for yourself, I assume.

 

It's hilarious to me that you post a definition of the word "belittle" and then you don't actually understand that the way you supposedly call out "dishonest people" (who are only dishonest because they disagree with you) fits the definition perfectly. See those two words at the end there, depreciate and disparage? You probably should have read those definitions as well before you decided to post that.

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Actual independent news sources?

 

Or was I supposed to shitpost here :v

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Was your point that you're more interested in talking shit about people than you are about actually constructing a meaningful argument? I'd have to agree.

 

Maybe I did misread what you said about contempt but that doesn't change the fact that you do treat people with contempt when you believe they're wrong even if you claim you only resort to such.. childish behaviour when people use "dishonest, backhanded tactics" such as asking you to actually look up facts for yourself, I assume.

 

It's hilarious to me that you post a definition of the word "belittle" and then you don't actually understand that the way you supposedly call out "dishonest people" (who are only dishonest because they disagree with you) fits the definition perfectly. See those two words at the end there, depreciate and disparage? You probably should have read those definitions as well before you decided to post that.

"Dishonest" means twisting the words of others and knowingly taking them out of context, both of which you are guilty of.  Do you expect me to pat you on the back for being a slimy, deceiving snake?  I didn't belittle or "depreciate" you because you did that to yourself when you made the decision to willingly lack any honesty or courtesy.  

 

If someone is spit in the face and attacked with a knife before beating the life out of the assailant, is he as guilty of assault as someone who attacked another because they happened to disagree with them(see Trump supporters getting beaten up by "tolerant" Progressives)?  I think not and so I have no problem responding with viciousness when others engage in character attacks and dishonest slander.  Between [1]the man who watches his loved ones slaughtered before him and with cold hate, kills those responsible and [2]the man who watches them die, while declaring forgiveness of those murderers, which one can be considered more insane.  Can the first even be blamed for doing what any sane man would?  I don't think so.  

 

In other words, I won't bend over and I will call you out when you prove yourself a coward and a weasel as I have for anyone who has shown such despicable behavior.            

"Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die."  -excerpt from the Havamal

 

"We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man."  -Oswald Spengler

 

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