Viridian Entente exits the war

[Kemal Ergenekon]

i hear that being said, i just do not get how an alliance is suckered into being  an aggressor in war... a war with out cause or CB. Nah fam,  they thought they had in on a win and took it, which is perfectly legit. just don't play victim when you've snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. 

 

Mensa support their allies unconditionally, so I don't view this as impossible. Remember our first war. SK completely dropped the ball on that, but we didn't surrender so that we wouldn't leave our allies hanging out to dry.

Edited September 23, 2016 by Kemal Ergenekon

[Buorhann]

Mensa support their allies unconditionally, so I don't view this as impossible. Remember our first war. SK completely dropped the ball on that, but we didn't surrender so that we wouldn't leave our allies hanging out to dry.

 

Actually, we did surrender first, but that was after discussing with allies.

[Kemal Ergenekon]

Actually, we did surrender first, but that was after discussing with allies.

 

[Yosodog]

i hear that being said, i just do not get how an alliance is suckered into being  an aggressor in war... a war with out cause or CB. Nah fam,  they thought they had in on a win and took it, which is perfectly legit. just don't play victim when you've snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. 

 

Because if they didn't join the war, the treaty lawyers would've arrested Moonpie and he would be serving life in prison.

 

In fact, if VE actually followed their MDAP they would've hit TKR, not Mensa. The Mandatory Aggression clause did not require VE to hit Mensa at all. The excuse that they were forced to attack Mensa was utter bull shit.

[Auctor]

Yeah! and heck, c'mon! It's not as if people have to actually honor their pacts here, so there's no way around free will.

[Sweeeeet Ronny D]

Actually, we did surrender first, but that was after discussing with allies.

Yeah i was going to say, you guys definitely did surrender about a week or two early and left the rest of your allies hanging.

[Kemal Ergenekon]

Yeah i was going to say, you guys definitely did surrender about a week or two early and left the rest of your allies hanging.

 

Well, this is why we don't like you SRD. You lie without reason. If the allies consent, it isn't leaving.

[greatkitteh]

Because if they didn't join the war, the treaty lawyers would've arrested Moonpie and he would be serving life in prison.

 

In fact, if VE actually followed their MDAP they would've hit TKR, not Mensa. The Mandatory Aggression clause did not require VE to hit Mensa at all. The excuse that they were forced to attack Mensa was utter bull shit.

 

Those who are BK shalt not speak of honoring treaties.

 

 

Anyways, well done VE. NPO is always open to rebuilding relations and shit.

(thats not official)

[Prefontaine]

Wait.. People except something other than complete and utter rubbish from anything and everything that SRD does/says? 

 

He's literally the worst thing to happen to VE. They can count this war a victory because it got him the !@#$ out of their alliance. 

 

I mean how they tolerated him leeching off of their alliance more than once is beyond me. He's the worst anything to ever anything in politics and war. Seriously, DEIC has better leadership than SRD has provided VE. Steve has better political sense than this freaking sack of tools. I mean, I'm not sure if he's just trolling or is just the least function in game mental cripple I've ever had the displeasure of breathing the same E-air with. 

 

I mean for !@#$ sake, I think the first article up for discussion at that silly little summit thingy should be the mass ignoring of SRD so we are all spared the woefully ignorant garbage that spews forth from his fingers, onto the screen and into our poor unsuspecting eyeballs. 

 

The fact that you all still reply to him, as if he's on a level even remotely close to qualify for any sort of civil discourse almost makes me think less of you all. He does more to hurt his alliances than Sheepy does to hurt his own game. 

 

SRD, I hope one day you realize you're the joke we all know you to be here. 

 

Edited September 23, 2016 by Prefontaine

[Kastor]

Wait.. People except something other than complete and utter rubbish from anything and everything that SRD does/says? 

 

He's literally the worst thing to happen to VE. They can count this war a victory because it got him the !@#$ out of their alliance. 

 

I mean how they tolerated him leeching off of their alliance more than once is beyond me. He's the worst anything to ever anything in politics and war. Seriously, DEIC has better leadership than SRD has provided VE. Steve has better political sense than this freaking sack of tools. I mean, I'm not sure if he's just trolling or is just the least function in game mental cripple I've ever had the displeasure of breathing the same E-air with. 

 

I mean for !@#$ sake, I think the first article up for discussion at that silly little summit thingy should be the mass ignoring of SRD so we are all spared the woefully ignorant garbage that spews forth from his fingers, onto the screen and into our poor unsuspecting eyeballs. 

 

The fact that you all still reply to him, as if he's on a level even remotely close to qualify for any sort of civil discourse almost makes me think less of you all. He does more to hurt his alliances than Sheepy does to hurt his own game. 

 

SRD, I hope one day you realize you're the joke we all know you to be here. 

 

 

Go to sleep Pre.

[Mikey]

Yeah i was going to say, you guys definitely did surrender about a week or two early and left the rest of your allies hanging.

 

By the time Mensa, and later Guardian, exited the conflict, the war was very clearly lost and we had no qualms with them getting peace. We only fought on to avoid paying reps. Nobody who values their allies expects them to burn needlessly once the outcome has been decisively settled.

[ArcKnox]

>He does more to hurt his alliances than Sheepy does to hurt his own game.

 

Well

[Sweeeeet Ronny D]

Well, this is why we don't like you SRD. You lie without reason. If the allies consent, it isn't leaving.

what? nothing I said there was a lie... even if your allies say that it is ok, it is still leaving the war early, and you are leaving them to get piled on by even more alliances.

 

Pre, whats a matter buddy? do you need a hug?  Stop by #grumpy and ill give you a hug.  It will be ok. 

Edited September 23, 2016 by Sweeeeet Ronny D

[Aksel]

what? nothing I said there was a lie... even if your allies say that it is ok, it is still leaving the war early, and you are leaving them to get piled on by even more alliances.

 

Pre, whats a matter buddy? do you need a hug?  Stop by #grumpy and ill give you a hug.  It will be ok. 

 

If he doesn't take it I will - I love hugs. Never pass up a hug, thats what my grandpa always said. mhm!

[Spaceman Thrax]

what? nothing I said there was a lie... even if your allies say that it is ok, it is still leaving the war early, and you are leaving them to get piled on by even more alliances.

 

Pre, whats a matter buddy? do you need a hug?  Stop by #grumpy and ill give you a hug.  It will be ok. 

 

You lose.

 

He was trying to outgrumpy you.

 

You had one !@#$in' job.

[greatkitteh]

Inb4 polaris treaty

[Eumirbago]

Inb4 polaris treaty

Yeeeee consolidate that side playboi. We'll see everyone again in 3 months.

[Sweeeeet Ronny D]

Being grumpy is not a competition it's a way of life.  I hate all of you which means none of you are worth writing giant walls of text about.  You only ball bust the ones you love.

[LordRahl2]

For some time now, I've been writing letters grounded on two key principles:

1. I honestly herald SRD's garbage gameplay's failure to attract more support for its self-serving, venal capilotades as a teachable moment, and
2. in my speaking engagements, I have found in audience questions an alarming increase in concern about carnaptious, renitent Svengalis.

Unfortunately, this letter won't be able to address all of the points I'd like to make. With all of the dishonest elisions, bombastic flourishes, and pompous posturing, I can't possibly tackle all of SRD's garbage gameplay's disdainful jeers in a single go. To put it another way, we'll be covering 190-proof SRD's garbage gameplay here. You don't drink it; you sip it. Let's begin our investigation with the observation that I've been trying to get SRD's garbage gameplay to admit that it is secretly saying that I should just die a slow and painful death. Yes, I know what you're thinking: Getting it to admit such a thing would challenge even the most patient of Zen masters. Nevertheless, I proclaim that it's worth a try because I plan to pursue virtue and knowledge. This is a choice I have made; your choice is up to you. But let me remind you that no one has a higher opinion of SRD's garbage gameplay than I, and I think SRD's garbage gameplay is an ultra-subhuman, pestilential rotter.

Unless you define success using the sort of loosey-goosey standards by which SRD's garbage gameplay abides you'll realize that true measures of success involve promoting trust, a questioning attitude, and a receptiveness to raising issues. Success is getting the world to see that SRD's garbage gameplay argues that hanging out with oppressive pamphleteers is a wonderful, culturally enriching experience. This is an entertaining statement, perhaps, except that when taken at face value it presages a likely attempt by SRD's garbage gameplay to overthrow western civilization through the destruction of its four pillars—family, nation, religion, and democracy. Behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when SRD's garbage gameplay denies ever having strived to indoctrinate the most malevolent flibbertigibbets you'll ever see with ready-made conclusions on controversial subjects. On the other hand, one might wonder why SRD's garbage gameplay doesn't feel guilty about evading responsibility. The answer may surprise you, especially when you consider that there is a problem here. A very large, wicked, hate-filled problem.

SRD's garbage gameplay keeps saying that mediocrity is a worthwhile goal. In such statements, as in most of its propaganda, there are major omissions and layers of codswallop wrapped around a small piece of the truth. The real story is that SRD's garbage gameplay's hypocrisy is transparent. Even the least discerning among us can see right through it. This is not a question of metagrobolism or tuchungism. Rather, it is a question about how if I am correctly informed, SRD's garbage gameplay should be forced to wear a scarlet “W†for “Wants to devastate vast acres of precious farmlandâ€. In any case, if we were to let SRD's garbage gameplay get away with imposing a narrow theological agenda on secular society, that would be a gross miscarriage of justice.

Communicating and teaching may be a costly endeavor. Nevertheless, the price of doing nothing is far greater. That's why I warrant that SRD's garbage gameplay claims that I'm some sort of cully who can be duped into believing that “metanarratives†are the root of tyranny, lawlessness, overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank stupidity. I would say that that claim is 70% folderol, 20% twaddle, and 10% another choleric attempt to eat our nation to its bones. I got off on a tangent. The sooner it comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us.

If you agree, read on. SRD's garbage gameplay has been trying for some time to convince people that the world's salvation comes from whims, irrationality, and delusions. Don't believe its hype! SRD's garbage gameplay has just been offering that line as a means to elevate the worst sorts of lusk hellions I've ever seen to the sublime.

On the face of it, the need to push the envelope on our knowledge of the world around us seems obvious to the point of being trite. Any yet, at the root of all of that lies the deeply radical notion that we and SRD's garbage gameplay doubtlessly need to call a truce on our arguments over antidisestablishmentarianism. Unfortunately, SRD's garbage gameplay will refuse to accept any such truce, as its whole raison d'être is to promote antidisestablishmentarianism in all its hideous forms. Honor means nothing to SRD's garbage gameplay. Principles mean nothing to SRD's garbage gameplay. All it cares about is how best to engage in an endless round of finger pointing.

However nefarious the national picture already is, in a sense, SRD's garbage gameplay's dodgy declamations are quite amusing. That is to say, you may find them amusing if you like caricatural, distorted, stereotyped assumptions and blanket generalities. In short, SRD's garbage gameplay's declamations are a kind of long, elaborated, humorless joke, especially when you consider that SRD's garbage gameplay has once again been feeding blind hatred. Although for it, this behavior is as common as that of adulterous politicians seeking forgiveness from God and spouse, there's no shortage of sin in the world today. It's been around since the Garden of Eden and will definitely persist as long as SRD's garbage gameplay continues to topple society. SRD's garbage gameplay's coalition of craven, narrow-minded kooks and childish analphabetics has its own, tartarean slogan. That slogan is, “Usher in the beginning of a covinous new era of racialismâ€. What this slogan lacks in wit, it makes up for in its ability to plant strife and chaos.

When I was younger I wanted to chastise SRD's garbage gameplay for not doing any research before spouting off. I still want to do that, but now I realize that whenever there's an argument about its devotion to principles and to freedom, all one has to do is point out that one often finds it in the company of rude boeotians or other unsavory characters. That should settle the argument pretty quickly.

Time cannot change SRD's garbage gameplay's behavior. Time merely enlarges the field in which SRD's garbage gameplay can, with ever-increasing intensity and thoroughness, scorn and abjure reason. If you think you can escape from SRD's garbage gameplay's bossy ideas, then good-bye and good luck. To the rest of you I suggest that it's possible that it has become increasingly resentful ever since childhood. However, I cannot speculate about that possibility here because I need to devote more space to a description of how we should lead us all toward a better, brighter future. (Goodness knows, our elected officials aren't going to.)

SRD's garbage gameplay's logodaedaly is frighteningly successful at convincing demented utopians that advertising is the most veridical form of human communication. I'm sorry, but there's no politer way to put that. I will tactfully note, however, that when I observe SRD's garbage gameplay's coadjutors' behavior, I can't help but recall the proverbial expression, “monkey see, monkey doâ€. That's because, like it, they all want to increase alienation and delinquency among our young people. Also, while a monkey might think that truth is whatever your grievance group says it is, the fact remains that I don't just want to make a point. I don't just want to build a coalition of stouthearted people devoted to stopping it. I'm here to give an alternate solution, a better one. I don't just ask rhetorical questions; I have answers. That's why I'm telling you that most people react to its humorless cock-and-bull stories as they would to having a pile of steaming pig manure dumped on their doorstep. Even when they can cope, they resent having to do so. Speaking of resentment, I sometimes see well-meaning people swallow SRD's garbage gameplay's lie that science is merely a tool invented by the current elite to maintain power. To my mind, shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. That's why I wish that all decent people realized that when SRD's garbage gameplay's insane utterances are translated into plain, words-mean-things English, it appears to be saying that its loony-bin crew is looking out for our interests. For me, this ugly moonshine serves only to emphasize how some doolally mouthpieces for incompetent demagogism actually profess that the best way to reduce cognitive dissonance and restore homeostasis to one's psyche is to overthrow all concepts of beauty and sublimity, of the noble and the good, and instead drag people down into the sphere of SRD's garbage gameplay's own base nature. This is the kind of muddled thinking that SRD's garbage gameplay is encouraging with its revenge fantasies. Even worse, all those who raise their voice against this brainwashing campaign are denounced as devious, biggety serpents. Finally, whatever your thoughts or feelings about SRD's garbage gameplay are, I urge you to help me follow through on the critical work that has already begun.

[Bambino]

   Wowsers!

[Yosodog]

Those who are BK shalt not speak of honoring treaties.

 

 

Anyways, well done VE. NPO is always open to rebuilding relations and shit.

(thats not official)

It's not an issue of honoring a treaty and that's clearly not what I said. It's an issue of misinterpreting the treaty and attempting to use it has an excuse for going to war.

[丂ħ̧i̧₣ɫ̵γ͘ ̶™]

Don't see why this is the scandal.

 

Honestly worse to leave your alliance when gov and then attack them than to criticize them for a horrible loss and having to pay reps.

[Sweeeeet Ronny D]

For some time now, I've been writing letters grounded on two key principles:

1. I honestly herald SRD's garbage gameplay's failure to attract more support for its self-serving, venal capilotades as a teachable moment, and
2. in my speaking engagements, I have found in audience questions an alarming increase in concern about carnaptious, renitent Svengalis.

Unfortunately, this letter won't be able to address all of the points I'd like to make. With all of the dishonest elisions, bombastic flourishes, and pompous posturing, I can't possibly tackle all of SRD's garbage gameplay's disdainful jeers in a single go. To put it another way, we'll be covering 190-proof SRD's garbage gameplay here. You don't drink it; you sip it. Let's begin our investigation with the observation that I've been trying to get SRD's garbage gameplay to admit that it is secretly saying that I should just die a slow and painful death. Yes, I know what you're thinking: Getting it to admit such a thing would challenge even the most patient of Zen masters. Nevertheless, I proclaim that it's worth a try because I plan to pursue virtue and knowledge. This is a choice I have made; your choice is up to you. But let me remind you that no one has a higher opinion of SRD's garbage gameplay than I, and I think SRD's garbage gameplay is an ultra-subhuman, pestilential rotter.

Unless you define success using the sort of loosey-goosey standards by which SRD's garbage gameplay abides you'll realize that true measures of success involve promoting trust, a questioning attitude, and a receptiveness to raising issues. Success is getting the world to see that SRD's garbage gameplay argues that hanging out with oppressive pamphleteers is a wonderful, culturally enriching experience. This is an entertaining statement, perhaps, except that when taken at face value it presages a likely attempt by SRD's garbage gameplay to overthrow western civilization through the destruction of its four pillars—family, nation, religion, and democracy. Behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when SRD's garbage gameplay denies ever having strived to indoctrinate the most malevolent flibbertigibbets you'll ever see with ready-made conclusions on controversial subjects. On the other hand, one might wonder why SRD's garbage gameplay doesn't feel guilty about evading responsibility. The answer may surprise you, especially when you consider that there is a problem here. A very large, wicked, hate-filled problem.

SRD's garbage gameplay keeps saying that mediocrity is a worthwhile goal. In such statements, as in most of its propaganda, there are major omissions and layers of codswallop wrapped around a small piece of the truth. The real story is that SRD's garbage gameplay's hypocrisy is transparent. Even the least discerning among us can see right through it. This is not a question of metagrobolism or tuchungism. Rather, it is a question about how if I am correctly informed, SRD's garbage gameplay should be forced to wear a scarlet “W†for “Wants to devastate vast acres of precious farmlandâ€. In any case, if we were to let SRD's garbage gameplay get away with imposing a narrow theological agenda on secular society, that would be a gross miscarriage of justice.

Communicating and teaching may be a costly endeavor. Nevertheless, the price of doing nothing is far greater. That's why I warrant that SRD's garbage gameplay claims that I'm some sort of cully who can be duped into believing that “metanarratives†are the root of tyranny, lawlessness, overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank stupidity. I would say that that claim is 70% folderol, 20% twaddle, and 10% another choleric attempt to eat our nation to its bones. I got off on a tangent. The sooner it comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us.

If you agree, read on. SRD's garbage gameplay has been trying for some time to convince people that the world's salvation comes from whims, irrationality, and delusions. Don't believe its hype! SRD's garbage gameplay has just been offering that line as a means to elevate the worst sorts of lusk hellions I've ever seen to the sublime.

On the face of it, the need to push the envelope on our knowledge of the world around us seems obvious to the point of being trite. Any yet, at the root of all of that lies the deeply radical notion that we and SRD's garbage gameplay doubtlessly need to call a truce on our arguments over antidisestablishmentarianism. Unfortunately, SRD's garbage gameplay will refuse to accept any such truce, as its whole raison d'être is to promote antidisestablishmentarianism in all its hideous forms. Honor means nothing to SRD's garbage gameplay. Principles mean nothing to SRD's garbage gameplay. All it cares about is how best to engage in an endless round of finger pointing.

However nefarious the national picture already is, in a sense, SRD's garbage gameplay's dodgy declamations are quite amusing. That is to say, you may find them amusing if you like caricatural, distorted, stereotyped assumptions and blanket generalities. In short, SRD's garbage gameplay's declamations are a kind of long, elaborated, humorless joke, especially when you consider that SRD's garbage gameplay has once again been feeding blind hatred. Although for it, this behavior is as common as that of adulterous politicians seeking forgiveness from God and spouse, there's no shortage of sin in the world today. It's been around since the Garden of Eden and will definitely persist as long as SRD's garbage gameplay continues to topple society. SRD's garbage gameplay's coalition of craven, narrow-minded kooks and childish analphabetics has its own, tartarean slogan. That slogan is, “Usher in the beginning of a covinous new era of racialismâ€. What this slogan lacks in wit, it makes up for in its ability to plant strife and chaos.

When I was younger I wanted to chastise SRD's garbage gameplay for not doing any research before spouting off. I still want to do that, but now I realize that whenever there's an argument about its devotion to principles and to freedom, all one has to do is point out that one often finds it in the company of rude boeotians or other unsavory characters. That should settle the argument pretty quickly.

Time cannot change SRD's garbage gameplay's behavior. Time merely enlarges the field in which SRD's garbage gameplay can, with ever-increasing intensity and thoroughness, scorn and abjure reason. If you think you can escape from SRD's garbage gameplay's bossy ideas, then good-bye and good luck. To the rest of you I suggest that it's possible that it has become increasingly resentful ever since childhood. However, I cannot speculate about that possibility here because I need to devote more space to a description of how we should lead us all toward a better, brighter future. (Goodness knows, our elected officials aren't going to.)

SRD's garbage gameplay's logodaedaly is frighteningly successful at convincing demented utopians that advertising is the most veridical form of human communication. I'm sorry, but there's no politer way to put that. I will tactfully note, however, that when I observe SRD's garbage gameplay's coadjutors' behavior, I can't help but recall the proverbial expression, “monkey see, monkey doâ€. That's because, like it, they all want to increase alienation and delinquency among our young people. Also, while a monkey might think that truth is whatever your grievance group says it is, the fact remains that I don't just want to make a point. I don't just want to build a coalition of stouthearted people devoted to stopping it. I'm here to give an alternate solution, a better one. I don't just ask rhetorical questions; I have answers. That's why I'm telling you that most people react to its humorless cock-and-bull stories as they would to having a pile of steaming pig manure dumped on their doorstep. Even when they can cope, they resent having to do so. Speaking of resentment, I sometimes see well-meaning people swallow SRD's garbage gameplay's lie that science is merely a tool invented by the current elite to maintain power. To my mind, shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. That's why I wish that all decent people realized that when SRD's garbage gameplay's insane utterances are translated into plain, words-mean-things English, it appears to be saying that its loony-bin crew is looking out for our interests. For me, this ugly moonshine serves only to emphasize how some doolally mouthpieces for incompetent demagogism actually profess that the best way to reduce cognitive dissonance and restore homeostasis to one's psyche is to overthrow all concepts of beauty and sublimity, of the noble and the good, and instead drag people down into the sphere of SRD's garbage gameplay's own base nature. This is the kind of muddled thinking that SRD's garbage gameplay is encouraging with its revenge fantasies. Even worse, all those who raise their voice against this brainwashing campaign are denounced as devious, biggety serpents. Finally, whatever your thoughts or feelings about SRD's garbage gameplay are, I urge you to help me follow through on the critical work that has already begun.

I cant even bring myself to read that and its all about me, and i love reading about me, auto generated or not!

Edited September 23, 2016 by Sweeeeet Ronny D

[Sans]

This topic got pretty spicy.

[Seeker]

The treaty can be interpreted in different ways.  My opinion is it's called a mutual defense and aggression pact.  If you think Rose was just being aggressive towards just TKR then that's your prerogative, I think many people took it towards the whole sphere, myself included. 

Regardless of your opinions, we will always honor our treaties.  That's how we roll.