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I think everyone in our coalition was surprised to hear from TLF. They did not bandwagon in when they saw that we were likely to win. They had their own reasons which I think they've shared above.

 

The point about disregarding treaties is a valid one. For me the fact that it was a new treaty and UPN hadn't ever defended TLF is a mitigating factor, and the communication between their alliances could be one as well. But a more strict treaty lawyer could easily disagree.

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Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe.

 

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I can respect what alataq just said, all I wanted to clear up was that they made their own decisions. The entire time I was active in rose gov I never tried to force anything on them.

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[17:17:58] <&Ashland> I will give you hops if you say this phrase:

[17:18:13] <&Ashland> "Man, I really wish Rose had allied BoC a couple months ago when we had the chance instead of picking Vanguard."

[17:20:16] Man, I really wish Rose had allied BoC a couple months ago when we had the chance instead of picking Vanguard.

 

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I can respect what alataq just said, all I wanted to clear up was that they made their own decisions. The entire time I was active in rose gov I never tried to force anything on them.

 

Honestly I think if anything it was the slap of losing that level of respect that precipitated this.

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Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe.

 

~ William S. Burroughs

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I didn't know kicking corpses could make up for small hands. 

It's a useful mental exercise. Through the years, many thinkers have been fascinated by it. But I don't enjoy playing. It was a game that was born during a brutal age when life counted for little. Everyone believed that some people were worth more than others. Kings. Pawns. I don't think that anyone is worth more than anyone else. Chess is just a game. Real people are not pieces. You can't assign more value to some of them and not others. Not to me. Not to anyone. People are not a thing that you can sacrifice. The lesson is, if anyone who looks on to the world as if it was a game of chess, deserves to lose.

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I don't think you understood the messages I put on the forums. I never claimed we were pawns of Rose. You guys were great allies who helped us multiple times throughout our friendship. I'm just saying, in regards to the argument that we are doing this because we don't want to be rolled, and want to be on the winning side, that isn't true. Thus me saying we've been rolled multiple times to aid you in the fight (yes, even the last war where we declared on Arrgh to aid UPN. It was our choice and we were fine with it)

 

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Yeah, I'm sorry for that. You guys were great allies. I was just mad from you dropping us. I take full responsibility for that statement.

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Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk

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Now that I think about it, this DoW is just a ruse to make TLF relevant.

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<&Partisan> EAT THE SHIT

<blacklabel> lol @ ever caring about how much you matter in some dumbass nation simulation browser game. what a !@#$in pathetic waste of life

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So TLF, you say you can't fight then prove you can by declaring a war.

You say people are calling you pawns when they're not.

You say Rose is using you as pawns then say you didn't mean it. (when clearly you did)

You say TEst has no open slots when they do.

There seems to be a pattern here.
 

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So TLF, you say you can't fight then prove you can by declaring a war.

 

You say people are calling you pawns when they're not.

 

You say Rose is using you as pawns then say you didn't mean it. (when clearly you did)

 

You say TEst has no open slots when they do.

 

There seems to be a pattern here.

They also keep saying we dropped TOG when TOG was the one that dropped us lol.

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Hey, I'm MrBooty, one of the leaders of the Light Federation, and one of it's founding members (I also was sole leader for a bit until I went inactive lolol :( )

 

A few things....

 

1 I'm won't say too much on this, but I was not a fan of entering this war. I'll let this statement stand alone here.

 

2. We legitimately didn't know about the war until shortly before it happened. It was maybe an oversight but we weren't expected to immediately enter so it's a bit of a non-issue.

 

3. We are not bandwagoning. Being on the "winning side" is not the point of us entering this war.

 

4. Rose were our top allies for like a real life year. I maintain close personal relationships with Rose members in real life, and a person I met through this game who was an incredibly important member of Rose is actually one of my best friends in real life now. They have advised and helped us the whole way through, and we actually merged into them for a bit. Almost our entire membership still has an incredibly high opinion of Rose... almost. But I still see them as really being the alliance that shaped our alliance and helped us completely along the way. TLF has changed a lot, but we're down to a core group of members who aren't going away, and our stability has a lot to do with Rose's help over time :P.

 

Any more questions or comments can be sent to me or typed here.

 

 

Edit: Also BK's leaders literally just said that we stood up for The Old Guard so that's a bit of a weak point of attack.

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Ohhhhhhhh thanks for letting us know, we will all leave this thread alone now. 

 

If only you coulda posted earlier, maybe we wouldn't have gotten to 6 pages! gahhh shucks mr. b.

 

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tl;dr shut up

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Are you serious? lmao. This is beyond crappy. You ignore an MDP treaty that was directly activated with UPN and attack someone else on the side with no treaty link,. Like if you don't get shit for this, then no one has any standards. The other side accepting every bandwagoning piece of scum is telling.

 

You are literally the Storm Division of this war.

 

 

>Sign MDOAP with UPN

>UPN get's attacked without activation

>Attack UPN allies????????

Literally Charming Friends.

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So everyone shitting on TLF. Their treaty is an MDP, not an MADP. They are under no obligation to assist in an offensive war, regardless of how badly its gone for UPN. This is particularly true when they are not even notified until 3 hours before said offensive. If you desired them to come in as an oA you should have tried talking to them.

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23:38 Skable that's why we don't want Rose involved, so we can take the m all for ourselves

23:39 [] but Mensa is the cute girl at the school dance and she's only dancing with us right now to get our friend jealous

23:39 [] If Rose comes in and gives Mensa what she wants, she'll just toss us aside and forget we ever existed

23:39 zombie_lanae yeah I do hope we can keep having them all to ourselves

23:40 zombie_lanae I know it's selfish but I want all their love

 

 

6:55 PM <+Isolatar> Praise Dio

Pubstomper|BNC [20:01:55] Rose wouldn't plan a hit on Mensa because it would be &#33;@#&#036;ing stupid

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In case you're wondering, we defended our MDP partner (I'm not going into the whole attacking SK thing).

 

FOR STEVE!

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So everyone shitting on TLF. Their treaty is an MDP, not an MADP. They are under no obligation to assist in an offensive war, regardless of how badly its gone for UPN. This is particularly true when they are not even notified until 3 hours before said offensive. If you desired them to come in as an oA you should have tried talking to them.

No one is complaining about TLF not joining in on the offensive, it's just their unwillingness to respect the piece of paper that said they will defend UPN.

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