Prefontaine Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Are you trying to say Mensa activated a defensive clause to hit UPN? What? I'm saying they had their reasons for starting a war. Sparta's reasons for entering this war I would imagine is along the lines of "supporting their allies", but they aren't actually supporting treaty obligations. Edited June 15, 2016 by Prefontaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguar Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Why BK? I thought you could find more suitable target and not struggle with BK's updeclaring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguar Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 So we could teach you that high infra cities are bad? Honestly, that's why you are gonna stay small forever.. The BK nations are one of the slowest growing nations in game, not sure if that's the tactic or not, just pointing out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yosodog Posted June 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2016 Honestly, that's why you are gonna stay small forever.. The BK nations are one of the slowest growing nations in game, not sure if that's the tactic or not, just pointing out We're not economic focused, we're military focused. We put warchest requirements over growth, and we've been involved in every major war since we've been founded. We also started with nothing, as you're aware of. Remember the days where we could only give out $100k loans? lmfao Either way, we have some of the fastest growing nations to a certain level. Once you hit 7ish cities we start to enforce strict warchest requirements otherwise you're cut off from aid. A low amount of infra per city gives you less score but more cities, so you can easily take out other nations with higher infra. It also makes nukes almost pointless to be fired at you, because the cost to rebuild up to 1700 infra is only like 10m. Simply put, we prefer to be good at war rather than sit out of wars and protect our infra. It's two different ways to play. But I do concede that it has been rather slow. Our upper tier nations don't get shit for aid because Zoot is all like "oh money is better spent in the low tier", which I agree, but !@#$ man cities are expensive 11 Quote [22:37:51] <&Yosodog> Problem is, everyone is too busy deciding which top gun character they are that no decision has been made BK in a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Vulp Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Honestly, that's why you are gonna stay small forever.. The BK nations are one of the slowest growing nations in game, not sure if that's the tactic or not, just pointing out The game is more than just growing Pixels. Look at your nation for example. You are pixle hugging and jumping from alliance to alliance. You left Bk, joined Rose, left Rose, joined Rose, joined this star wars alliance, left them,joined rose, joined sparta, joined TEst. At topic: "Elite alliance vs. Noob alliance" would have been a far better title 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguar Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 We're not economic focused, we're military focused. We put warchest requirements over growth, and we've been involved in every major war since we've been founded. We also started with nothing, as you're aware of. Remember the days where we could only give out $100k loans? lmfao Either way, we have some of the fastest growing nations to a certain level. Once you hit 7ish cities we start to enforce strict warchest requirements otherwise you're cut off from aid. A low amount of infra per city gives you less score but more cities, so you can easily take out other nations with higher infra. It also makes nukes almost pointless to be fired at you, because the cost to rebuild up to 1700 infra is only like 10m. Simply put, we prefer to be good at war rather than sit out of wars and protect our infra. It's two different ways to play. But I do concede that it has been rather slow. Our upper tier nations don't get shit for aid because Zoot is all like "oh money is better spent in the low tier", which I agree, but !@#$ man cities are expensive There you go. And yes I do remember when there were like what.... 5 of us? And look at BK now, 130+ members community and what's more important those members are actually worth having and aren't deadweight or something(which can be seen from your blitzes) Coordinated growth is really one of the best things around here The game is more than just growing Pixels. Look at your nation for example. You are pixle hugging and jumping from alliance to alliance. You left Bk, joined Rose, left Rose, joined Rose, joined this star wars alliance, left them,joined rose, joined sparta, joined TEst. At topic: "Elite alliance vs. Noob alliance" would have been a far better title I actually came to TEst hoping I'd fight more... #blamePre 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisha Greyjoy Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Sparta has treaties with Guardian, SK, VE, and Alpha. We can't really count Alpha, since that declaration happened month(s) ago, and that would require them hit tS. SK isn't involved, Guardian hasn't been declared on? VE isn't in and has a non-chaining treaty anyway. There is no treaty clause forcing Sparta to hit BK, thus Sparta has hit BK without being obligated to, thus UPN is obligated to declare on Sparta. I might agree with you, but let's face it, legalism and treaties just don't go together in Orbis or...anywhere else for that matter. There's always 2 sides, and no one, except TeST, has fought on both sides in a given war that I can recall. But you guys are like a special snowflake. When you're on side B, you can count on your Side A allies to sit it out. Ideally though, if Side A ally was DOING ITS JOB right, they'd explain to the coalition that no one can hit their ally on Side B unprovoked. A big alliance like UPN could probably enforce that on their own coalition if they so chose. Quote Duke of House Greyjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 #blamePre And thats the TEst chat summed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mrgrim8 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Sparta has treaties with Guardian, SK, VE, and Alpha. We can't really count Alpha, since that declaration happened month(s) ago, and that would require them hit tS. SK isn't involved, Guardian hasn't been declared on? VE isn't in and has a non-chaining treaty anyway. There is no treaty clause forcing Sparta to hit BK, thus Sparta has hit BK without being obligated to, thus UPN is obligated to declare on Sparta. but why not call in the rest of there bloc DEIC and NAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Truchev Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) It's a direct hit. UPN is obligated to defend us People, please don't reply with a bunch of anger. I'm just trying to make a joke. Anger! Rabble rabble rabble! Edited June 15, 2016 by Victor Truchev Quote Contact me if you have questions, concerns, or just want to chat. I have an open door policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatkitteh Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Anger! Rabble rabble rabble! What the !@#$ did you just !@#$ing say about me, you little !@#$? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my academy in the QRF, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Da Sundickate, and I have over 300 confirmed beiges kills. I am trained in Roze Warfare and I’m the top naviey in the entire UPN Iron Hands. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe nuke you the !@#$ out with the navy, likes of which has never been seen before on this Bob/Orbis/Bob/Orbis/Bob/Orbis WHAT THE !@#$ IS THIS WAR FOR??, mark my !@#$ing words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over a different plant? Beiged again, !@#$er. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of farms across Rose and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the next rollback, maggot. The shitstorm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call "Garrdien" (Wait wats guardian?) . You’re !@#$ing dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can beige you with over seven hundred ships, and that’s just with Rose. Not only am I estensibely trained in ZI'ed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of $30,000,000 Dutch East India Company banking skills money (until Clarke's sister stole it) and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the face of ORBIS/BOB/ORBIS/BOB/ORBIS/BOB/ORBIS/BOB WHAT THE !@#$ IS THIS WAR FOR?? , you little shit. If only you could have known what beiging your little “clever†blitz was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your !@#$ing Guardian. (Whatever that is) But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you purged idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re !@#$ing dead, kiddo. You're so !@#$ing dead. Edited June 15, 2016 by greatkitteh 4 Quote :sheepy: :sheepy: Greatkitteh was here.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNG Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 What the !@#$ did you just !@#$ say about me, you little !@#$? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my academy in the QRF, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Da Sundickate, and I have over 300 confirmed beiges kills. I am trained in Roze Warfare and I’m the top naviey in the entire UPN Iron Hands. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe nuke you the !@#$ out with the navy, likes of which has never been seen before on this Bob/Orbis/Bob/Orbis/Bob/Orbis WHAT THE !@#$ IS THIS WAR FOR??, mark my !@#$ words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over a different plant? Beiged again, !@#$er. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of farms across Rose and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the next rollback, maggot. The shitstorm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call "Garrdien" (Wait wats guardian?) . You’re !@#$ dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can beige you with over seven hundred ships, and that’s just with Rose. Not only am I extensively trained in ZI'ed comabat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of $30,000,00 Dutch East India Company banking skills money (until Clarke's sister stole it) and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the face of ORBIS/BOB/ORBIS/BOB/ORBIS/BOB/ORBIS/BOB WHAT THE !@#$ IS THIS WAE FOR?? , you little shit. If only you could have known what beiging your little “clever†blitz was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your !@#$ Guardian. (Whatever that is) But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you purged idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re !@#$ dead, kiddo. You're so !@#$ dead. This is why we need to roll UPN 4 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatkitteh Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 This is why we need to roll GPA 1 Quote :sheepy: :sheepy: Greatkitteh was here.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyvbuck Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 This is why we need to roll everyone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 This is why we need to roll UPN We on it fam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatkitteh Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 We on it fam Well looks like you need more on it. Quote :sheepy: :sheepy: Greatkitteh was here.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansarius Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Sparta has treaties with Guardian, SK, VE, and Alpha. We can't really count Alpha, since that declaration happened month(s) ago, and that would require them hit tS. SK isn't involved, Guardian hasn't been declared on? VE isn't in and has a non-chaining treaty anyway. There is no treaty clause forcing Sparta to hit BK, thus Sparta has hit BK without being obligated to, thus UPN is obligated to declare on Sparta. And we in turn are of course expecting BK to declare on Mensa HQ and Guardian Quote “Be your friend’s true friend. Return gift for gift. Repay laughter with laughter again but betrayal with treachery.”― Hávamál Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefontaine Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 And we in turn are of course expecting BK to declare on Mensa HQ and Guardian I don't disagree with you, I just find Spartas actions a little less becoming. The problem is you all have gathered around your pixels and brought in as many others as you can thinking the numbers with make you safe. In doing so you've surrounded your self with allies who have no intention of being allies unless it's easy or convenient. This isn't just UPN, it's a lot of the major alliances. You sign treaties for the wrong reasons. You all speak so highly of your paper world, and treat us paperless people like lessees for playing the political game different. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 And TEst sits outside the war, watching the lands burn, laughing at the petty politics of the paper bound alliances... 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 And TEst sits outside the war, watching the lands burn, laughing at the petty politics of the paper bound alliances... You damn right mate time to join TEst â¤ï¸ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefontaine Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Literally no one in our alliance thinks that way. Didn't realize Hans lead Sparta as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Mannax Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 o7 Steve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 You damn right mate time to join TEst â¤ï¸ ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendo Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I'm sort of confused why Sparta entered the way they did. They declared war on BK and only a small handful of their members actually launched an offensive attack. Most of their bottom half got swarmed by BK. Seems they are basically playing the role of a Nuclear Knights, in that their plan is simply to launch some nukes. Just about all their top half is untouched so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Winchell Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 And TEst sits outside the war, watching the lands burn, laughing at the petty politics of the paper bound alliances...Can confirm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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