Popular Post Prefonteen Posted June 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/13335-orbis-on-planet-bob/ Following this thread and recent events, I feel compelled to take some time to address the following matter directly. A few days ago, an attack was mounted on an alliance in another game for the reason of 'For Steve'. The attack concerned a combination of Alpha, NPO and Polaris affiliates on that world hitting MI6- an alliance which is considered to be a t$ counterpart by these parties. Though the Syndicate does not particularly care for the fate of MI6 in this other world, we can not help but frown at the initial war reason given. It was later explained that this war reason and rallying cry was in jest, and that the underlying CB's boiled down to: - Poaching by MI6' ex-leader Chimaera - MI6 inciting to war It was also brought up that Chimaera, ex-MI6 leader and current (mostly inactive) member of t$ was supposedly threatening NPO with PW war. While I can not comment on the first two reasons for war (as most of Syndicate government has not been paying attention to the other world prior to this), we did look into the third reason. The log given can be found here: Unfortunately, the log was ripped out of context. Please view the full logs: 11<Chimaera> [19:20] <%Chimaera> Syndicate just happens to be the only group that isn't miserably incompetent <Chimaera> [19:20] <Prezyan> i let them go freee <Chimaera> [19:20] <%Chimaera> Which is why they keep winning <Chimaera> [19:20] <@G_Hestia[Dolor_Aliis]> I mean <Chimaera> [19:20] <@G_Hestia[Dolor_Aliis]> Y'all also have a high NS <Chimaera> [19:20] <@G_Hestia[Dolor_Aliis]> So there's that <Chimaera> [19:21] <%Chimaera> I mean, I'm pretty sure I've been here for two wars where NS at the start of the war favored the other side 11<Chimaera> [19:21] <%Chimaera> They were just incompetent piles of trash compared to Syndicate's finely tuned MI6 and Spartan soldiers. <Chimaera> [19:22] <@G_Hestia[Dolor_Aliis]> There are other good alliances <Chimaera> [19:22] <%Chimaera> There...really aren't. <Chimaera> [19:22] <%Chimaera> Well, TKR seems pretty good <Chimaera> [19:22] <+NotABot> what the hell did ram, and i installed it on tkr thb <Chimaera> [19:22] <%Chimaera> I might go there after the war, I love IC and Az to death <Chimaera> [19:22] <@G_Hestia[Dolor_Aliis]> NPO? <Chimaera> [19:23] <@G_Hestia[Dolor_Aliis]> We aren't bad <Chimaera> [19:23] <%Chimaera> Eh. You'll get killed off next war...nobody in this game wants you here. Happened once in PnW already. <Chimaera> [19:23] <%Chimaera> Whether that's fair or not, that's what is going to happen <Chimaera> [19:24] <%Chimaera> Side effect of yall winning (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) 11<Chimaera> [19:27] <%Chimaera> Plus your only ally who actually likes you is on some sort of insane suicide mission with regards to Syndicate. <Chimaera> [19:27] <%Chimaera> Which I respect btw, I respect intense hatred. <Chimaera> [19:28] <@G_Hestia[Dolor_Aliis]> Alpha will survive <Chimaera> [19:28] <%Chimaera> Sure, they'll survive <Chimaera> [19:28] <%Chimaera> But they'll have no money, and it'll take them ages to get back to the tier they were at once <Chimaera> [19:28] <@G_Hestia[Dolor_Aliis]> They have money <Chimaera> [19:29] <@G_Hestia[Dolor_Aliis]> Alpha isn't stupid <Chimaera> [19:29] <%Chimaera> I...wouldn't go that far. The out-of-context snippet was deliberately cropped to create the perception that chimaera was maliciously threatening its NPO conversational partners. In context, a different picture is painted: Chim's comments show no malice, but instead speculate and explain why he personally does not want to join. So, moving on: Many will have made up their own opinions concerning the 'For Steve' debacle. I won't rehash that here. It could have been a legitimate joke gone wrong. It could have been deliberate with the CB's written up later. We will never know for certain as it would require us to take NPO's word to make a definite conclusion. So that matter, while we frown upon it, is of little consequence to t$. We have however, come into posession of a leaked screenshot from NPO communications today. The screenshot in question shows the cropped chimaera log along with a rallying cry to (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) NPO's vast membership. An ideological war is supposedly about to start and parties (read: t$) have threatened to run NPO out of the game. (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) NPO members are instructed to join PW NPO members for the sole purpose of bolstering PW NPO for this ideological showdown. The only proof given for the supposed threat is the cropped log: A few things are to be noted: 1. The post in question omits that Chimaera holds no sway over t$ government, and is but a member. 2. The cropped out of context log frames Chimaera- portraying him to be threatening Pacifica 3. This threat is then used to rally around. 4. Future war is implied. We are well aware that this same log has been circulating, both in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) and PW, among various alliances. The circulation of the log seems like a deliberate PR effort aimed at the Syndicate. Please view the context surrounding the log earlier in this thread for clarification. Pacifica, from you I ask the following: Why are you framing t$ members and t$ in order to rally around a nonexistent threat? Why are you tieing your mass influx to supposed imminent war with t$? Why do you continue to pretend that Chimaera holds sway in t$ government, despite having been told the contrary on multiple occasions? Why do you and yours mix this game with planet bob, then try to pin it on t$ while secretly continuing with said mixture? I look forward to your response. Edited June 10, 2016 by Partisan 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 0/10 terrible post as per usual.tS trying to pick off another para-covenant alliance go figure. 3 Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 We're going to feel so silly when this all proves to be unwarranted and we don't get attacked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefontaine Posted June 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2016 We're going to feel so silly when this all proves to be unwarranted and we don't get attacked. I'm tempted to declare war on everyone involved if it prevents NPO and tS from posting about this garbage. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 0/10 terrible post as per usual. tS trying to pick off another para-covenant alliance go figure. I don't see anything stating t$ going after NPO. I saw a wall of text asking NPO to explain. But as usual 0/10 on trying to insult t$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Charge your phone, nerd. No u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placentica Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Please leave Cybernations out of this game. I'd rather you not try to mix the two or to make connections where they do not exist. Alpha doesn't exist in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). Some of our members play both games, some do not. But Alpha doesn't care what happens in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). I came to this world because I wanted a break from (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). Your attempts to bring that dead world of (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) into this game are very concerning. 6 Quote Hello! If you don't like this post please go here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Remember when everyone said that NPO couldn't be trusted and NPO said we're not the same and then turns out they're exactly the same manipulative cross-game garbage alliance we said they'd be? good times :') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStrum Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Is it too late to place bets on # of pages? I think 20 is an easy goal. 4 Quote On 3/16/2016 at 9:54 PM, Lykos said: Our next move is obviously rolling LordStrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegoz Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 The idea that this will be quick is laughable 1 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Is it too late to place bets on # of pages? I think 20 is an easy goal. What is not 30 pages may never end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 The idea that this will be quick is laughable It's quicker than my average post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 It is extraordinarily frustrating that I and my name are being dragged through the mud here on Orbis, a planet I *barely* reside upon, in a game I have, up to this point, done my actual damnedest to avoid playing at all costs. But then again, I should never have expected better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dalinar Posted June 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2016 Chim thinks we're pretty good 10 Quote I will take responsibility for what I have done, if I must fall, I will rise each time a better man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 The idea that this will be quick is laughable Strategic Planning (FA): Partisan (ON VACATION UNTIL JUNE), Valakias He's still on vacation. We'll have to wait until he gets back. Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greatnate Posted June 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2016 Jesus, a second (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) thread? Can we not? Alpha's not NG, t$ isn't MI6, can we stop trying to get people who don't play (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) to give a single !@#$ about (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) politics? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Chim thinks we're pretty good Yeah I do bby. I also discovered after this conversation that Lordship is also in TKR, and so my hard-on for you guys has done nothing but grow in power and girth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Jesus, a second (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) thread? Can we not? Alpha's not NG, t$ isn't MI6, can we stop trying to get people who don't play (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) to give a single !@#$ about (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) politics? That'd be asking too much of t$ Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky Monkey Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Strategic Planning (FA): Partisan (ON VACATION UNTIL JUNE), Valakias He's still on vacation. We'll have to wait until he gets back. I don't know where you live but it's June here. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Thrax Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Please leave Cybernations out of this game. I'd rather you not try to mix the two or to make connections where they do not exist. Alpha doesn't exist in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). Some of our members play both games, some do not. But Alpha doesn't care what happens in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). I came to this world because I wanted a break from (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). Your attempts to bring that dead world of (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) into this game are very concerning. You are literally the person cited in the other game that precipitated this. 3 Quote Slaughter the shits of the world. They poison the air you breathe. ~ William S. Burroughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James II Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) You are literally the person cited in the other game that precipitated this. Look at Manthrax trying to bring in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) politics. Do we really need to debate (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) in PnW? Last I checked Placentica was never mentioned in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). There is no need to debate the reasons for the war in another game that has nothing to do with this one. Jump off the faux PR train plox. Edited June 10, 2016 by James II 1 Quote "Most successful new AA" - Samuel Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Feels like the republican candidate nomination process in here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Having fun there james? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bagel Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Strategic Planning (FA): Partisan (ON VACATION UNTIL JUNE), Valakias He's still on vacation. We'll have to wait until he gets back. It's june baby. Partiboy is back! Quote <&Partisan> I'm roleplaying a not snake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roquentin Posted June 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2016 This is pretty easy to address. I don't think it ever says The Syndicate in particular is gunning for NPO in those screenshot, nor does it come down to the idea of one alliance harboring members with anti-NPO sentiment. It says "people don't want you here" since it's been a common attitude expressed. There have been numerous metagame critiques of NPO's involvement here in every topic we make is quickly followed up by how we're ruining the game by making it too much like (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) and that we sign too many treaties. In a recent poll,someone even included an "NPO sucks" option which got 30+ votes, so this idea there isn't an anti-NPO undercurrent of thought within the minds of certain players is frankly bullshit. If people see having NPO in PW as a problem from a metagame perspective regardless of our lack of action in this game, we're going to stand our ground and try to stick around and get people who haven't been more interested in the game in order to bolster the community. We are often judged for the reputation of our (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) Branch regardless of what we have actually done, so if we are to be viewed as such, we'll try to take full advantage of someone in particular outlining that they think people will rally around to stop us because we won (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). If you didn't want to give something that would be easy propaganda for us, then these sorts of "casual" predictions people have been making shouldn't have been made. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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