Kasich ? Trump or Cruz ? Clinton or Sanders ? Who do you support ?

[Lyre]

Bernie Sanders is definitely the most honest and kindest man there! Just having him makes me have faith in humanity again. His ideals are great and he sincerely believes that he can change corruption. Unfortunately, the reason why socialism works well in countries like Denmark and Sweden is because their population is low, there's little diversity and immigrants, and little change. The United States' diversity, immigration, rapid change, and culture (we can't even stand a 1% tax increase and we would never accept higher taxes even for better infrastructure, education, and welfare programs) are completely against socialist programs. Even Obama's programs were hated and he was called derogatory names for programs that barely had a hint of socialism within it.

 

Hillary Clinton is dishonest, her ideas change with the flow (like Trump), and she's been in way too many legal cases. No matter what happens, her role in Benghazi, the email controversy, and gender makes it impossible for her to use her experience and be a good leader. She'll be in Obama's situation and keep on getting vetoed. She will always be tailed and her enemies can always use her large, past failures against her. Not to mention that, following the legislature's response to an African American president, a female president is way out of the question currently (I'm a woman but I don't think the time is right for a female president just yet) until invisible prejudices can be removed.

 

John Kasich is awesome. I'm a solid moderate leaning towards democratic and socialist ideas (I agree with the libertarian party on many things and supported their past nominee) but Kasich is easily the best Republican running. It's a shame he wasn't popular and dropped out. If there was a choice, I would've voted for him if Sanders didn't get the nomination (Sanders' ideas won't work but the message he sends about equality and fairness will effect the USA for the better, plus he's just a good person).

 

Ted Cruz is a mainstream Republican who would've been one of the runner-ups, if not the winner, on any previous primary. He gets his reputation from attacking other members of the Republican party for being too moderate but he easily sums up Republican beliefs. His questionable heritage (parents from Cuba) will definitely be a thorn in his side. I mean, people still believe Obama was born is Kenya despite the myth being disproven and I think the same thing would happen to Cruz. People will definitely question Cruz's legitimacy.

 

Donald Trump isn't as bad as media portrays him but I dislike him and these next comments will be a bit biased. I'm an Asian-American and my boyfriend was born in Maryland but his family (and his blood) is from El Salvador. Donald Trump simply has the exact opposite opinion of everything I think of in politics. He does have a good perm though. Seriously. Anyways, his ideas are a tad bit fascist (definitely not Hitler-level but he has this extreme nationalism to him in which he hates [or at least dislikes] people who are of different appearance, religion, etc). My family and I have lived in the USA since I was born (we were refugees from the Vietnam War) and I'm scared that Trump could bring anti-foreigner hatred in the people. His supporters have already shown their immense hatred by groping and assaulting an American (Caucasian) protestor, African Americans (there was even one African American Trump supporter who was assaulted), and his supporters (not all of them, but it seems like a lot) have derogatory terms for people who aren't 100% bona fide Caucasian.

 

What if they attack my boyfriend? What if they attack my neighbors? What if they attack me and my family? Some of you might think that I'm just paranoid but I consider myself American and I understand that no matter what people will ask me 'where are you from' and will never consider me a true American (despite growing up with only American beliefs and chanting the Pledge of Allegiance every day with my own American flags hanging in my house) but living with the fear of being hated by everyone you've ever known, despised by people who hate you, and fear of being deported (unlikely but still scary) is not something I can support. I don't support Donald Trump and I understand that not all of his supporters are racist, sexist, whatevers...but his ideas and actions sound terrifying. I'm 16 and I'm fearful of him.

 

 

TL;DR - All the candidates suck.

[Rozalia]

You don't know who the last republican president is? Sad. Very nasty guy.

 

Let's see... They are both stupid. Embarrass themselves and America every time they speak. Both whores to globalism (corporatism). Were/will be subordinate to their veep. Have/will transfer the net worth of the middle class to the wealthy via the stock market. Both ruinous to America. Trump will be at least as detrimental to the US and the global economy as was W.

 

Exactly as I thought. Of course I know such things, just merely wanted you to throw yourself down that pitfall before I said anything further as that would have preemptively rescued you, or perhaps you'd have said it anyway but I'm not one to insult.

 

So the man talking about tackling mass immigration, outsourcing, ripping up trade deals like TTIP, putting down protectionist tariffs, has shown little care for political correctness, and talks of "America First" is a... "whore to globalism". You show that you know nothing about the matter and that is putting it kindly because you are wrong to such an extreme level, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

 

Beyond that are you supporting Clinton? Please say yes, I want to see if this goes further. 

 

Donald Trump isn't as bad as media portrays him but I dislike him and these next comments will be a bit biased. I'm an Asian-American and my boyfriend was born in Maryland but his family (and his blood) is from El Salvador. Donald Trump simply has the exact opposite opinion of everything I think of in politics. He does have a good perm though. Seriously. Anyways, his ideas are a tad bit fascist (definitely not Hitler-level but he has this extreme nationalism to him in which he hates [or at least dislikes] people who are of different appearance, religion, etc). My family and I have lived in the USA since I was born (we were refugees from the Vietnam War) and I'm scared that Trump could bring anti-foreigner hatred in the people. His supporters have already shown their immense hatred by groping and assaulting an American (Caucasian) protestor, African Americans (there was even one African American Trump supporter who was assaulted), and his supporters (not all of them, but it seems like a lot) have derogatory terms for people who aren't 100% bona fide Caucasian.

 

What if they attack my boyfriend? What if they attack my neighbors? What if they attack me and my family? Some of you might think that I'm just paranoid but I consider myself American and I understand that no matter what people will ask me 'where are you from' and will never consider me a true American (despite growing up with only American beliefs and chanting the Pledge of Allegiance every day with my own American flags hanging in my house) but living with the fear of being hated by everyone you've ever known, despised by people who hate you, and fear of being deported (unlikely but still scary) is not something I can support. I don't support Donald Trump and I understand that not all of his supporters are racist, sexist, whatevers...but his ideas and actions sound terrifying. I'm 16 and I'm fearful of him.

 

 

TL;DR - All the candidates suck.

 

Clinton paid Sanders supporters have attacked far more people, exposed hate ("Kill Whitey", "Kill Cops", and so on), and caused way more trouble, being basically rioting thugs. You can't attack Trump on a few incidents if Sanders who you said real good things about (no mention about his supporters) has supporters who have done way worse.

[Lyre]

 

 Clinton paid Sanders supporters have attacked far more people, exposed hate ("Kill Whitey", "Kill Cops", and so on), and caused way more trouble, being basically rioting thugs. You can't attack Trump on a few incidents if Sanders who you said real good things about (no mention about his supporters) has supporters who have done way worse.

 

 

I'm pretty biased towards Bernie Sanders (I admit) but now that you mention it, I think that both of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump supporters are a bit too radical. I think Bernie Sanders is a nice man and has honest and kind ideas but both his and Donald Trump's supporters are venomous (not all of them, but I think most). They're both on two opposite ends on radical extremes with supporters that have no intention of compromise. They attack other groups to spread a message. It's basically two revolutionary groups who want change right now fighting like a civil war. Kind of like the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks except there is no moderate group.

 

Sanders promotes equality (by using a system that won't work in this particular country) and Trump wants to protect America (he wants to protect it but, imo, I think in the wrong ways) but their supporters only spread hate and violence. Maybe it's better if they both didn't exist since I think the mere presence of these two extremists have changed this election. There hasn't been any election that has been so drastically different as this one

 

EDIT: the country is completely divided 50/50 on so many issues and now even presidential candidates. This election is tearing the USA apart by showing two different ideals and splitting America from a melting pot to a battlefield where people are teaming up with people like them in appearance, belief, etc... and utterly destroying others in the name of freedom, justice, and defense.

Edited May 7, 2016 by Fluffypuppy

[SoS]

No, I don't support clinton. She may be even worse than Trump.

 

Trump talks anti-globalism, but his whole life contradicts that.

[Moreau]

Don't listen to Rozalia THE RUSSIAN!

[Rozalia]

I'm pretty biased towards Bernie Sanders (I admit) but now that you mention it, I think that both of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump supporters are a bit too radical. I think Bernie Sanders is a nice man and has honest and kind ideas but both his and Donald Trump's supporters are venomous (not all of them, but I think most). They're both on two opposite ends on radical extremes with supporters that have no intention of compromise. They attack other groups to spread a message. It's basically two revolutionary groups who want change right now fighting like a civil war. Kind of like the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks except there is no moderate group.

 

Sanders promotes equality (by using a system that won't work in this particular country) and Trump wants to protect America (he wants to protect it but, imo, I think in the wrong ways) but their supporters only spread hate and violence. Maybe it's better if they both didn't exist since I think the mere presence of these two extremists have changed this election. There hasn't been any election that has been so drastically different as this one

 

EDIT: the country is completely divided 50/50 on so many issues and now even presidential candidates. This election is tearing the USA apart by showing two different ideals and splitting America from a melting pot to a battlefield where people are teaming up with people like them in appearance, belief, etc... and utterly destroying others in the name of freedom, justice, and defense.

 

Well that acknowledgement is more than most can do, and thats commendable. 

 

Personally I feel you need the extremes to exist and it's wondrous to have two of them to exist at once. You need the extremes to waste the moderates now and then. 

 

No, I don't support clinton. She may be even worse than Trump.

 

Trump talks anti-globalism, but his whole life contradicts that.

 

She is considering she is a globalist to a tee.

 

??? Pray tell how this goes with your talk of being a "whore of globalism"? He's certainly made a lot of money with the old system, even has admitted the lobbyists he's attacked many times he knows many of them who could get him anything he wants, he's extremely rich after all. The problem that angle runs into is... why run then? He's already lost 100s of millions of lost income (last I heard it was talk of half a billion) due to it already and under the current system he could in his and no doubt your words get anything he wanted so... why? If he is such a whore of globalism then why drum up hate for it when he could you know... just use the current system to get whatever he wants from President Clinton?

 

This is a very odd angle from yourself. It's in that realm of all rich people are evil I think. If you're against globalism then Trump (Sanders being finished) is the only guy you can go with. 

 

Don't listen to Rozalia THE RUSSIAN!

 

Russian? Even if I were, I don't see what that would matter.

[Moreau]

Russian? Even if I were, I don't see what that would matter.

 So you are not denying it? 

[Rozalia]

 So you are not denying it? 

 

??? If I said I was a Russian (I'm not) what would change exactly? Thats what I'd like to know. You've not worked out the differences between a Nationality and a Religion have you? That Islam at work giving you absurd ideas again. 

[Moreau]

If I said I was a Russian (I'm not) what would change exactly?

 

Denying your Russian heritage is very low energy! 

 

 

 

 

If I said I was a Russian (I'm not) what would change exactly?

 

[Rozalia]

Denying your Russian heritage is very low energy! 

 

 

Simply bizarre. No idea where this Russian thing has come from but I really couldn't care less if someone fed you that to wind you up like a toy to embarrass yourself. 

[Moreau]

Simply bizarre. No idea where this Russian thing has come from but I really couldn't care less if someone fed you that to wind you up like a toy to embarrass yourself. 

Only one embarrassing themselves is you, considering the fact that you're an ultra nationalist Russian who's being made to deny his heritage after getting called out. 

[Rozalia]

Only one embarrassing themselves is you, considering the fact that you're an ultra nationalist Russian who's being made to deny his heritage after getting called out. 

 

Yes, the person who posted threads on Polygamy/Polyandry and Bestiality would be embarrassed to be Russian. Sorry flower as while I may have my deficiencies like everyone does, a lack of brass isn't one of them. I'm pretty brazen.

 

A nationalist yes (and proud), a Russian no. I assume you are simply trying a really poor troll job and you're trying to build up your energy but it just ain't working. 

Edited May 8, 2016 by Rozalia

[Moreau]

Yes, the person who posted threads on Polygamy/Polyandry and Bestiality would be embarrassed to be Russian. Sorry flower as while I may have my deficiencies like everyone does, a lack of brass isn't one of them. I'm pretty brazen.

 

A nationalist yes (and proud), a Russian no. I assume you are simply trying a really poor troll job and you're trying to build up your energy but it just ain't working. 

Who do you think you are fooling?

 

I have observed hundreds of posts where you have clearly outlined ultra Russian nationalist sentiment and your support for Trump is but a manifestation of that. 

[Gandorian]

You don't know who the last republican president is? Sad. Very nasty guy.

 

Let's see... They are both stupid. Embarrass themselves and America every time they speak. Both whores to globalism (corporatism). Were/will be subordinate to their veep. Have/will transfer the net worth of the middle class to the wealthy via the stock market. Both ruinous to America. Trump will be at least as detrimental to the US and the global economy as was W.

Income inequality is worse under Obama than it was under his predecessor. Poverty has been worse every year under Obama than it was in any year under his predecessor. Today, a less percentage of Americans are employed than when Obama took office. You can complain about Bush all you want, but if he was bad, Obama has been worse.

[Rozalia]

Who do you think you are fooling?

 

I have observed hundreds of posts where you have clearly outlined ultra Russian nationalist sentiment and your support for Trump is but a manifestation of that. 

 

Clearly I'm fooling you without even making an aware effort.

 

Yes, observed hundreds but missed the many that would clue you in that you're way off the mark. Please do explain my supposed "ultra Russian nationalist sentiment". I mean know where you're getting this from (me commending Assad and Putin on putting your senpais in the ground), but I'd still like to hear it.

[Doktor Avalanche]

Income inequality is worse under Obama than it was under his predecessor. Poverty has been worse every year under Obama than it was in any year under his predecessor. Today, a less percentage of Americans are employed than when Obama took office. You can complain about Bush all you want, but if he was bad, Obama has been worse.

I was excited under Bush due to his campaign on anti-nation building, but of course we know what happened since then and his terms were horrid. But yes, under Obama we have crumbled even further into an economic collapse and social downward spiral. The very protections we have for speech are being used to create bigotry in the name of "sensitivities."

[SoS]

She is considering she is a globalist to a tee.

 

??? Pray tell how this goes with your talk of being a "whore of globalism"? He's certainly made a lot of money with the old system, even has admitted the lobbyists he's attacked many times he knows many of them who could get him anything he wants, he's extremely rich after all. The problem that angle runs into is... why run then? He's already lost 100s of millions of lost income (last I heard it was talk of half a billion) due to it already and under the current system he could in his and no doubt your words get anything he wanted so... why? If he is such a whore of globalism then why drum up hate for it when he could you know... just use the current system to get whatever he wants from President Clinton?

 

This is a very odd angle from yourself. It's in that realm of all rich people are evil I think. If you're against globalism then Trump (Sanders being finished) is the only guy you can go with.

Trump engages in globalism every day for many years. So, is it OK for him? Now that he's rich and can afford a 45% tax on imported goods does that mean we should all pay it? It's too ridiculous to be true, so I'm sure it's just populist rhetoric.

 

And, it's impossible to believe his rhetoric, because he has said himself that he is play acting a role. Well, I can't believe what he says, but I can see what he has done for decades. And, he has never done a !@#$ing thing to protect American jobs. He has always outsourced, always done business overseas. Says one thing to dummies who believe anything despite every action showing the contrary.

 

I don't understand how an owner of assets and royalties is losing income. But, he has put a lot of his money into it. There are legit ways for him to get his money back. Not likely as he's a red headed step child to the rnc. Anyhow, why do you think anyone would want that shit job? To make America great? I hope you aren't that naive. If you are, that'll go away in time.

[SoS]

Income inequality is worse under Obama than it was under his predecessor. Poverty has been worse every year under Obama than it was in any year under his predecessor. Today, a less percentage of Americans are employed than when Obama took office. You can complain about Bush all you want, but if he was bad, Obama has been worse.

I don't recall singing any praises of Obama or comparing Bush to him.

 

The culmination of what Bush and his cronies did to the economy imploded at the end of his presidency. Obama tried to undo the sweetheart tax deals Bush made for wall street, unsuccessfully.

[Rozalia]

Trump engages in globalism every day for many years. So, is it OK for him? Now that he's rich and can afford a 45% tax on imported goods does that mean we should all pay it? It's too ridiculous to be true, so I'm sure it's just populist rhetoric.

 

And, it's impossible to believe his rhetoric, because he has said himself that he is play acting a role. Well, I can't believe what he says, but I can see what he has done for decades. And, he has never done a !@#$ thing to protect American jobs. He has always outsourced, always done business overseas. Says one thing to dummies who believe anything despite every action showing the contrary.

 

I don't understand how an owner of assets and royalties is losing income. But, he has put a lot of his money into it. There are legit ways for him to get his money back. Not likely as he's a red headed step child to the rnc. Anyhow, why do you think anyone would want that shit job? To make America great? I hope you aren't that naive. If you are, that'll go away in time.

 

Look mate. You committed an error of such massive proportions I think your right to call anyone a dummy has been revoked. I understand of course it's the anger speaking but until you stop doubling down it'll hang over you. 

 

I don't understand. So by your logic if someone has benefited from globalism at some point then they're simply hypocrites and shouldn't try to change it? Weak and nonsense argument I've seen in a couple of flavours. I've benefited from globalism, as have a lot of people with cheap goods and you know what? I don't care. I'd gladly pay extra if it means the globalist's plans can be reversed. Also it's 35% not 45%.

 

Paul Manafort said that not Trump so wrong again. Additionally the meaning is that for the general election he'll pivot to be more "presidential" (perfectly standard thing), however with some of Trump's comments he may not even do that, after all it'll be Hillary. He has a lot of real estate, buildings, golf courses and such, and you can't outsource buildings. 

 

Uh... what? You not aware of all the companies that have dropped him and countries that have refused to do business with him after the comments on Mexicans and then Muslims? There is no "getting the money back", it's lost income that is gone forever. Have you just asked who'd want the crap job of being president? Trump clearly considering he's running for it. Why would he waste 10 months of time and effort, half a billion in lost income, having constant hate towards him, and all the rest if he didn't want to be president?

 

You need to get your facts straight mate. I mean I don't expect much considering your catastrophic attempt first effort but seriously just give it up. Admit you confused yourself there and that your talk of "whore of globalism" was incorrect and we can start to repair you a bit. Keep doubling down and well... you keep trying to argue in an attempt to prove that statement correct (impossible) so you just keep coming out with really weak arguments. These are softballs mate, I want a bit more of a challenge. 

 

I don't recall singing any praises of Obama or comparing Bush to him.

 

The culmination of what Bush and his cronies did to the economy imploded at the end of his presidency. Obama tried to undo the sweetheart tax deals Bush made for wall street, unsuccessfully.

 

<Doesn't sing Obama's praises>

 

<Pins Obama's failures on republicans, as Obama was the poor good man blocked by the evil old white guys>

 

Let me give you a clue. Clinton is a continuation of Obama. She's as bought and paid as they come. That connection mean anything to you? Ring any bells? The difference is Obama with his teleprompters and jokes is able to come across as a nice guy to a lot of people, allowing him to pin the blame on anybody but him. In reality the man was a continuation of Bush as Clinton will be a continuation of him if she were to win (she won't).

 

Edit: Also I've been holding off quoting Trump in his books and other such things but it really must be said to kill you dead in the ground. Trump has been speaking out against many things for a long time, for example when it comes to globalist trade deals:

 

 

Now unless your new angle is that Trump has spent his life planning all this and he doesn't really believe it, then can you stop now?

Edited May 8, 2016 by Rozalia

[SoS]

He imports hundreds of product lines he has produced globally. In places like Mexico and China. But, he says he'll fine Apple and Ford for doing exactly what he does.

 

He has properties globally, which employ thosands of cheap foreign labor.

 

He's got Trump World in South Korea for crista sake. He's a global businessman. He's a globalist. He doesn't give a crap about American jobs. Otherwise, he would pay Americans not Chinese to make his products. He would build Trump World in America. Many legit pro-USA businessmen have chosen to focus on creating jobs for Americans. Trump is all talk.

 

My mistake. He only plans to raise our taxes 35%.

 

A big part of it for me is that he can't do anything about globalism. He's pissing in the wind. He's completely insignificant and powerless to the globalist elite. There's one nation in the world that defies globalism. If Trump succeeds in his plans, the US will be like NK.

[Rozalia]

He imports hundreds of product lines he has produced globally. In places like Mexico and China. But, he says he'll fine Apple and Ford for doing exactly what he does.

 

He has properties globally, which employ thosands of cheap foreign labor.

 

He's got Trump World in South Korea for crista sake. He's a global businessman. He's a globalist. He doesn't give a crap about American jobs. Otherwise, he would pay Americans not Chinese to make his products. He would build Trump World in America. Many legit pro-USA businessmen have chosen to focus on creating jobs for Americans. Trump is all talk.

 

My mistake. He only plans to raise our taxes 35%.

 

A big part of it for me is that he can't do anything about globalism. He's pissing in the wind. He's completely insignificant and powerless to the globalist elite. There's one nation in the world that defies globalism. If Trump succeeds in his plans, the US will be like NK.

 

... You are aware the same tariffs would apply to his businesses in such a scenario? As Trump has said before with globalism for a business to compete in a developed country is difficult, his tariffs will work to change that around. 

 

Your point? So in his properties across the world is he suppose to import Americans to work at them now? Odd.

 

... Being successful and having ventures across the world makes you a globalist? Again, you don't know what you're talking about here. Globalism is a system that benefits the rich greatly, however that doesn't mean a rich person can't oppose it. If said rich person actually cares for his people and is a nationalist for example then you get a rich person who is against it, rare but not inconceivable.

 

Wrong again. Trump actually has the lowest taxes listed of all candidates in his plan. The tariff of 35% is a tax on goods not on the populace. Of course the companies can instead of moving back to America "pass it on" to the populace, however that makes them vulnerable to an American competitor who doesn't worry about the 35% tariff to undercut them and start eating into their profits even further than the 35% tariff will have had.

 

America will be embargoed by basically the entire world? Yeah, no. If he steers America against globalism it may well be the beginning of the end for that rotten system. When you strip away the globalists tools such as mass immigration, multiculturalism, political correctness, and so on they will quickly fall apart, they're not invincible. 

[SoS]

To paraphrase a wise man (Chris Rock), 35% of a billion dollars is fine because you'll still have several hundred million dollars; 35% of $35k and someone's gonna get murdered for that.

 

Yes, our economy would change through his severe protectionism, but not for the better. We would necessarily have less and everything would cost more. Only goods? Not income, just everything you spend your income on. Business will definitely pass it on to the consumer. There's no way around that. And, it will extend to every sector not just stuff we would have imported.

 

Punitive tariffs are a self imposed embargo. Globalism isn't about pc platitudes. It's about giving business free reign. The pc bs is just used to make it yummy for the masses.

[Rozalia]

To paraphrase a wise man (Chris Rock), 35% of a billion dollars is fine because you'll still have several hundred million dollars; 35% of $35k and someone's gonna get murdered for that.

 

Yes, our economy would change through his severe protectionism, but not for the better. We would necessarily have less and everything would cost more. Only goods? Not income, just everything you spend your income on. Business will definitely pass it on to the consumer. There's no way around that. And, it will extend to every sector not just stuff we would have imported.

 

Punitive tariffs are a self imposed embargo. Globalism isn't about pc platitudes. It's about giving business free reign. The pc bs is just used to make it yummy for the masses.

 

What are you failing to understand? Trump's tax rates are low, not high. A 35% tariff isn't a tax on people of 35K income or whatever else. 

 

Trump's tax rates are as I said low so people will keep more money to start with. Businesses playing ball will create more jobs for people, while those not will pay for it to the government. If Businesses want to pass on the costs to the consumer then they're free to of course but that gives American companies who aren't effected by the tariffs the ability to take the market by virtue of having significantly cheaper prices. 

 

Self imposed embargo? This being America, a huge market everyone wants in on... yes, they'll protest the tariffs by losing million and millions not doing business in America. There will be no "embargo", don't be ridiculous.

 

http://www.firstrebuttal.com/let-me-show-you-why-trump-is-right-on-trade-agreements/Where did I say it was? Said PC platitudes you're referring to are just tools to mask their greed at the expense of the people, nothing more. Your language is most odd. You talk about globalism being evil but have attacked those who want to reverse it because it's hopeless apparently and we should just accept suffering under it. Honestly that doesn't sound like someone against globalism, sounds more like someone for globalism but wants to appear to be against it for whatever reason. 

[SoS]

A tariff is a tax on anyone that buys just about anything. It is especially harmful to the working class that doesn't have a lot to begin with.

 

Business has to pass on its costs. They aren't charities.

 

Making imports unprofitable will stop imports - a self imposed (by our own action) ceasing of trade (embargo).

 

Trump is either naive or disingenuous to say he can stop globalism. It's much bigger than him.

[Rozalia]

A tariff is a tax on anyone that buys just about anything. It is especially harmful to the working class that doesn't have a lot to begin with.

 

Business has to pass on its costs. They aren't charities.

 

Making imports unprofitable will stop imports - a self imposed (by our own action) ceasing of trade (embargo).

 

Trump is either naive or disingenuous to say he can stop globalism. It's much bigger than him.

 

As I said, you were wrong in what you said previously. What a lot of the liberals fail to understand is that the working class aren't children, they ain't little animals. They understand there is no magic cure all, however a system that has hurt them constantly since it's inception (yes there are benefits in cheap goods though even that is iffy as most saving end up in company pockets, but that ain't worth a broken nation) isn't going to suddenly start working for them especially when the reasons for why they're hurting... the globalists want to pile even more on top of them. If you get sick via something, the cure isn't to have more of the stuff that made you sick in the first place.

 

And thats perfectly fine if they don't want to cut prices as that means they won't make as much money as before, perfectly fine. The people will buy their goods less and a competitor will be able to start snatching up business... or they can you know... move their production to America to not get tariffed? Ever considered that possibility?

 

... You talk as if protectionism/tariffs has never been done before. Are you not aware those two words are considered "dirty words" as it's what the globalists fear most, along with the other "dirty word" that often goes with the other two, Nationalism. Again, your talk of "embargo" is complete nonsense.

 

Like I said I'm really doubting your views here on this, quite frankly you're a mess. I don't even mean that as a Trumpism, because seriously you're all over the place. So you oppose the globalists, hitting Trump by calling him a "whore of globalism" but... support the tools, plans, and believe the narrative of the globalists? To give a crass example it'd be like if you said you hate the KKK but support hanging black people. Get it together. Either just say you support globalism or that you oppose it and support measures that go against globalism. This stance you've taken thus far is a mess.