What is considered an 'Established' Alliance?

[Speaker Faris Wheeler]

More  Members, or More Avg score.

Edited April 8, 2016 by Lysandre Mackintosh

[Hooves]

Avg Score definitely hits the medium for me.

[fistofdoom]

More members has no direct play into it, it is a mix of avg score and total score.

[Ogaden]

The line doesn't really exist, whether an alliance is established or not is an "eye of the beholder" thing

[Saruman]

Personally, I think it's age as well.

[Ole]

Dont forgett Political capital, spent or saved. I do get that thats kinda hard to measure, but its a thing.

[durmij]

It's community really. I could probably leave Rose, run an ad promising to pay for new players second cities and get a dozen scrubs under my sway in a month. But if we aren't interacting, we aren't an alliance. And if you don't interact with the community at large, you are basically non existent to them. If a tree gets rolled in the woods, does anyone see the salt posts?

[Kastor]

Once you have your first war, leadership setup, and a few treaties(or friends, if you fancy paper).

 

I don't consider Sparta an established alliance because most of their members came from already established alliances and they could very well leave after the first war they're in.

 

There's a difference between members joining an alliance and growing up, learning the game with them, and being in that alliance their entire time in Orbis vs joining a high tier alliance like Sparta.

 

I consider Alpha established because they grew various members, Sparta has grow little to none members, which makes me question them. Thats just my 2 cents though.

[Young]

Once you have your first war, leadership setup, and a few treaties(or friends, if you fancy paper).

 

I don't consider Sparta an established alliance because most of their members came from already established alliances and they could very well leave after the first war they're in.

 

There's a difference between members joining an alliance and growing up, learning the game with them, and being in that alliance their entire time in Orbis vs joining a high tier alliance like Sparta.

 

I consider Alpha established because they grew various members, Sparta has grow little to none members, which makes me question them. Thats just my 2 cents though.

 

 

Failed sparta Applicant? 

[Vosunda]

Once you have your first war, leadership setup, and a few treaties(or friends, if you fancy paper).

 

I don't consider Sparta an established alliance because most of their members came from already established alliances and they could very well leave after the first war they're in.

 

There's a difference between members joining an alliance and growing up, learning the game with them, and being in that alliance their entire time in Orbis vs joining a high tier alliance like Sparta.

 

I consider Alpha established because they grew various members, Sparta has grow little to none members, which makes me question them. Thats just my 2 cents though.

 

I'd say we've built up a considerable community.

 

But pls, speak of which you do not know.

[Young]

I'd say we've built up a considerable community.

 

But pls, speak of which you do not know.

 

Vos mate the skype chat we have has mentally scarred me

[Vosunda]

Vos mate the skype chat we have has mentally scarred me

 

Lightweight.

[Kastor]

Failed sparta Applicant?

 

No, because I'm not being butthurt.

 

Never said I didn't like Sparta or the people there, just that I'd like to see how you guys do during/after your first war. After Roz Wei's first war, we lost hella people(1 or 2 to Sparta. ) and that hurt us badly. I'm interested in seeing how well Sparta does, that's all.

[FISHGUTS]

Hello Kastor,

 

I'd like to address your posts regarding Ourselves.

I've played browser games like this since 2006. I've been around the block once or twice since then, which tbh is an irrelevance, apart from the fact I am more than happy at Sparta.

I would not be part of an alliance that wasn't up to it.

 

It's took me a few moves to find the right alliance, but Jim & Seabass have provided that.

I think I've found a good alliance. 

Edited April 9, 2016 by FISHGUTS

[jaguar]

Just kastor being henry

[Young]

We will be good trust me - and tbh Roz got pummled last war so defecions woulda been expected lol 

 

No, because I'm not being butthurt.

Never said I didn't like Sparta or the people there, just that I'd like to see how you guys do during/after your first war. After Roz Wei's first war, we lost hella people(1 or 2 to Sparta. ) and that hurt us badly. I'm interested in seeing how well Sparta does, that's all.

[RagnarBuliwyf]

I'd consider age, influence, score and many many different factors together for an alliance to be established. But as Ogaden pointed out, it's all "the eye of the beholder". 

[Sailor Jerry]

Once an alliance is no longer a "Protectorate" and can handle themselves in their first war after that.  So if that means a higher average score, or more members, more overall score or whatever, if they can stand on their own two feet in a 1 v 1 against another alliance, then that would qualify it for me.

[fistofdoom]

Hmmm, maybe if they contribute their own drama thread in the alliance affairs section.

[Spite]

Mensa was considered established within a month or two of arriving, enough that people in the established alliances started to plot against us anyway. It's not about score, it's about community and staying power. That can be something obvious from the start, like NPO, or something that grows over time.

[Prefontaine]

More  Members, or More Avg score.

 

None of the above.

[Sailor Jerry]

Mensa was considered established within a month or two of arriving, enough that people in the established alliances started to plot against us anyway. It's not about score, it's about community and staying power. That can be something obvious from the start, like NPO, or something that grows over time.

The bolded & underlined section was probably due to the fact that most people thought you were all "Douche-Nuggets" and nothing more.......most people probably still do.

[Arthur James]

having long history with his loyal members from day1.. not necessary more members (like FSA) or more score (ca be like coalition of elites with short history).

Edited April 26, 2016 by Arthur James

[Merik]

It's hot to be score and growth that make them established. If there is no growth the aa will stagnate eventually

[Spite]

The bolded & underlined section was probably due to the fact that most people thought you were all "Douche-Nuggets" and nothing more.......most people probably still do.

That's fighting talk