Hereno Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Just because a division of the SS used it, dosent mean the Rune is inherrently Nazirelated, nore that the intent behind using it here is in any way, shape or form related to any Nazi/Neo-Nazi leanings, and sugesting that just showes off your tremendus ignorance once more. doesn't* inherently* Nazi-related* nor* suggesting* shows* tremendous* yeah all i see is a group of self-proclaimed vikings claiming to invade us under the banner of a waffen SS division https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Venetic_Raetic_Camunic_Lepontic_alphabets.png as you can see, the odal rune is actually a very specific rune that was not at all common historically, but instead, like the swastika, used by the nazis for propaganda purposes they could have used them to spell out vikings plenty of them look pretty cool no, instead, you and the other far-right wing IRL people who are "totally not nazis" despite us already having seen a nazi alliance that used actual irl nazi propaganda in its forum recruitment thread have chosen to use one of the very few that actually were co-opted by the nazi party yeah, right, how stupid do you think we are? apparently very. that's probably why you want to gas us in the first place. come back when you're actually interested in doing something pro-german and not insulting our intelligence. Edited April 6, 2016 by Hereno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Semloh Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Defaming far-right people IRL by saying that we are all nazi's is not appreciated. P.S. Welcome to Orbis Ragnarok! You will find many viking themes here, but there's always room for one more. Edited April 6, 2016 by Robert P. Holmes III Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Don't hurt yourself stretching, Hereno! But me oh my you must be getting hello flexible at this point 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Don't hurt yourself stretching, Hereno! But me oh my you must be getting hello flexible at this point eh, you're fake as !@#$ and care more about winning in a browser game than stopping people who want to use it to express hateful irl ideologies show half-decency and admit you made a mistake by having your alliance agree to protect the fascists and racists who you most likely secretly agree with in more ways than you'd be willing to admit Edited April 6, 2016 by Hereno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Hereno: STFU you idiot! There is nothing wrong with our flag, alliance name, etc. We don't have anything that comes close to a racist, hurtful, etc ideology at all in our alliance. Get your head out of the sand! Edited April 6, 2016 by Diomedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Hereno: STFU you idiot! There is nothing wrong with our flag, alliance name, etc. We don't have anything that comes close to a racist, hurtful, etc ideology at all. Get your head of the sand! you could always just actually address the points that multiple posters here have brought up that i elaborated on this must be what it feels like when bill o'reilly calls you a racist (you know, the guy who sexually assaulted one of his workers but nobody who watches fox news seems to care) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 you could always just actually address the points that multiple posters here have brought up that i elaborated on this must be what it feels like when bill o'reilly calls you a racist (you know, the guy who sexually assaulted one of his workers but nobody who watches fox news seems to care) You are the only poster that has a problem where there isn't one. You have made no points, just unfactual bs. Nothing you said about Ragnarok has any relevance of fact at all. Since I addressed the facts in my last post...My work is done! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Puns Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I doubt the intention was to appear with a nazi emblem. Given that the Nazis stole a large number of symbols and stigmatized them I think this is kinda unnecessary. It would appear more as if while creating the flag, they were lazy and added on a symbol that's minor demarcations set it aside from being Viking related to Nazi. Probably didn't even know it's relation to the Nazis. Sure I guess it's naive but you have more evidence that it's mere accident and lack of attention than you have it's a pro Nazi stance. 2 Quote 22:26 +Kadin: too far man 22:26 +Kadin: too far 22:26 Lordofpuns[boC]: that's the point of incest Kadin 22:26 Lordofpuns[boC]: to go farther 22:27 Bet: or father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F8te Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Uhm.. anyways. Welcome and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 The fact that this uses Enjin and doesn't have a Hoo is a thumbs down for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatnate Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 -snip- So serifs make a Nazi then? Better warn the Ukrainians, they're only 45 degrees off! So: Racist Not Racist You may as well argue that is racist and is not. I can't imagine why a Varangian-based alliance would want to focus on the rune for home. /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Nordic themed alliance using a rune is fine. If it were a European nationalist themed alliance talking about a reich and role playing as SS commanders then you might have a point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 doesn't* inherently* Nazi-related* nor* suggesting* shows* tremendous* yeah all i see is a group of self-proclaimed vikings claiming to invade us under the banner of a waffen SS division https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Venetic_Raetic_Camunic_Lepontic_alphabets.png as you can see, the odal rune is actually a very specific rune that was not at all common historically, but instead, like the swastika, used by the nazis for propaganda purposes they could have used them to spell out vikings plenty of them look pretty cool no, instead, you and the other far-right wing IRL people who are "totally not nazis" despite us already having seen a nazi alliance that used actual irl nazi propaganda in its forum recruitment thread have chosen to use one of the very few that actually were co-opted by the nazi party yeah, right, how stupid do you think we are? apparently very. that's probably why you want to gas us in the first place. come back when you're actually interested in doing something pro-german and not insulting our intelligence. Grammar Nazis, allways picking on the dyslexic, its like you want to gass us or something...... As everything else you've said have been adressed by outhers, ill just leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 eh, you're fake as !@#$ and care more about winning in a browser game than stopping people who want to use it to express hateful irl ideologies show half-decency and admit you made a mistake by having your alliance agree to protect the fascists and racists who you most likely secretly agree with in more ways than you'd be willing to admit Not getting why a hooded/masked white guy is beating on another white guy under the banner of "White Pride". Did I miss something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crust Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I would really like to know why you folks decided to use that rune. Might just be a mishap but it's rune linked to both nazis and neo-nazi groups. What was your idea behind it? 1 Quote It's my birthday today, and I'm 33! That means only one thing...BRING IT IN, GUYS! *every character from every game, comic, cartoon, TV show, movie, and book reality come in with everything for a HUGE party* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Welcome, fellow Varangian warriors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 I would really like to know why you folks decided to use that rune. Might just be a mishap but it's rune linked to both nazis and neo-nazi groups. What was your idea behind it? Satisfriend: Our flag has no links to anything but being the flag of Ragnarok. There is nothing more or less about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crust Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 That's not what I'm asking. What was the motivation behind using that specific rune? I'm just wondering. 1 Quote It's my birthday today, and I'm 33! That means only one thing...BRING IT IN, GUYS! *every character from every game, comic, cartoon, TV show, movie, and book reality come in with everything for a HUGE party* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 That's not what I'm asking. What was the motivation behind using that specific rune? I'm just wondering. We liked the flag and used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzers Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 We liked the flag and used it. You guys all need to chill out. We dont all know about every piece of Nazi propaganda there is. If it is Nazi Propaganda, Im sure that Diomedes didnt choose that to be intentionally offensive towards those that disliked it. Its a nordic looking rune for a nordic themed alliance. Thats all there is to it. In other news, congrats on your formation guys. 4 Quote Roll Squeegee pact with Redarmy and Ameyuri Blues Brothers pact with Redarmy Leader of the Elyion Resistance. If it's backed by NPO, you know it's evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crust Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 For me it's not an odd question to ask. If our alliance was using an Al Qaida symbol or an Daesh symbol I'd ask them what their reason behind it is. If they were using far too many symbols or references towards a certain group I'd assume that's what they authentically are or want to RP. I wanted to give this new alliance a benefit of the doubt by asking rather than making assumptions. Any alliance should expect questions about their symbols, history and relationships. It's just natural to get to know them better and get to know them. It's up to them how they answer the questions. In my personal opinion this alliance has been rather bad at answering any question whatsoever. 2 Quote It's my birthday today, and I'm 33! That means only one thing...BRING IT IN, GUYS! *every character from every game, comic, cartoon, TV show, movie, and book reality come in with everything for a HUGE party* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 For me it's not an odd question to ask. If our alliance was using an Al Qaida symbol or an Daesh symbol I'd ask them what their reason behind it is. If they were using far too many symbols or references towards a certain group I'd assume that's what they authentically are or want to RP. I wanted to give this new alliance a benefit of the doubt by asking rather than making assumptions. Any alliance should expect questions about their symbols, history and relationships. It's just natural to get to know them better and get to know them. It's up to them how they answer the questions. In my personal opinion this alliance has been rather bad at answering any question whatsoever. We have answered every question asked about Ragnarok. We encourage people to ask questions, and we without any hesitance will be more then willing to get to know other alliances,etc here on Orbis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Great, Nazi pricks, just what the game needs. Sad bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 Great, Nazi pricks, just what the game needs. Sad bastards. Sorry, Sabcat...we aren't nazi in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Yeah, yeah, you just happened to have picked a winged odal for your flag, because vikings. Jog on you nazi prick, you fool no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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