Captain_Vietnam Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/23/is-trains-400-fighters-to-attack-europe-in-wave-bloodshed.html The Islamic State group has trained at least 400 fighters to target Europe in deadly waves of attacks, deploying interlocking terror cells like the ones that struck Brussels and Paris with orders to choose the time, place and method for maximum carnage, officials have told The Associated Press. The network of agile and semiautonomous cells shows the reach of the extremist group in Europe even as it loses ground in Syria and Iraq. The officials, including European and Iraqi intelligence officials and a French lawmaker who follows the jihadi networks, described camps in Syria, Iraq and possibly the former Soviet bloc where attackers are trained to attack the West. Before being killed in a police raid, the ringleader of the Nov. 13 Paris attacks claimed he had entered Europe in a multinational group of 90 fighters, who scattered "more or less everywhere." But the biggest break yet in the Paris attacks investigation — the arrest on Friday of fugitive Salah Abdeslam— did not thwart the multipronged attack just four days later on the Belgian capital's airport and metro that left 31 people dead and an estimated 270 wounded. Three suicide bombers also died. Just as in Paris, Belgian authorities were searching for at least one fugitive in Tuesday's attacks — this time for a man wearing a white jacket who was seen on airport security footage with the two suicide attackers. The fear is that the man, whose identity Belgian officials say is not known, will find Abdeslam's path instructive. After fleeing Paris immediately after the November attacks, Abdeslam forged a new network back in his childhood neighborhood of Molenbeek, long known as a haven for jihadis, and renewed plotting, according to Belgian Foreign Minister Didier Reynders. "Not only did he drop out of sight, but he did so to organize another attack, with accomplices everywhere. With suicide belts. Two attacks organized just like in Paris. And his arrest, since they knew he was going to talk, it was a response: 'So what if he was arrested? We'll show you that it doesn't change a thing,'" said French Senator Nathalie Goulet, co-head of a commission tracking jihadi networks. Estimates range from 400 to 600 Islamic State fighters trained specifically for external attacks, according to the officials, including Goulet. Some 5,000 Europeans have gone to Syria. "The reality is that if we knew exactly how many there were, it wouldn't be happening," she said. Two of the suicide bombers in Tuesday's attacks, brothers Ibrahim and Khalid El Bakraoui, had no known extremist links until an apartment one of them rented was traced to Abdeslam last week, according to Belgian state broadcaster RTBF. Similarly, an Algerian killed inside that apartment on March 15 had nothing but a petty theft record in Sweden — but he'd signed up as an Islamic State suicide bomber for the group in 2014 and returned to Europe as part of the Nov. 13 plot. In claiming responsibility, the Islamic State group described a "secret cell of soldiers" dispatched to Brussels for the purpose. The shadowy cells were confirmed by Europol — the EU police agency which said in a late January report that intelligence officials believed the group had "developed an external action command trained for special forces-style attacks." French speakers with links to North Africa, France and Belgium appear to be leading the units and are responsible for developing attack strategies in Europe, said a European security official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about briefing material. He is also familiar with interrogations of former fighters who have returned to Europe. Some were jailed after leaving IS while others were kicked out of the terror group. The fighters include Muslims and Muslim converts from all across Europe. Fighters in the units are trained in battleground strategies, explosives, surveillance techniques and counter surveillance, the security official said. "The difference is that in 2014, some of these IS fighters were only being given a couple weeks of training," he said. "Now the strategy has changed. Special units have been set up. The training is longer. And the objective appears to no longer be killing as many people as possible but rather to have as many terror operations as possible, so the enemy is forced to spend more money or more in manpower. It's more about the rhythm of terror operations now." Similar methods had been developed by al-Qaida but IS has taken it to a new level, he said. Another difference with these "external operation" units is that fighters are being trained to be their own operators — not necessarily to be beholden to specific orders from the IS stronghold in Raqqa, Syria, or elsewhere. In the case of Tuesday's attacks, Abdeslam's arrest may have been a trigger for a plot that was already far along. "This was not put together as a response to the arrest. However the timing of what has happened over the last few days has maybe hurried up the planning and execution," said Magnus Ranstorp, a Swedish security analyst. "I see the link to the environments either in France or in Belgium. Whether they're logistically linked ... they're probably part of the same batch of extremists that have come out of Syria." Several security officials have said there is growing evidence to suggest the bulk of the training is taking place in Syria, Libya and elsewhere in North Africa. "To pull off an attack of this sophistication, you need training, planning, materials and a landscape," said Shiraz Maher, a senior research fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation in London. Maher has conducted extensive interviews with foreign fighters. The research center, based at Kings College in London, has one of the largest databases of fighters and their networks. "Even if they worked flat out, the attackers in Brussels would have needed at least four days," Maher said. The question for many intelligence and security officials is now turning to just how many more fighters have been trained and are ready for more attacks. A senior Iraqi intelligence official who was not authorized to speak publicly said people from the cell that carried out the Paris attacks are scattered across Germany, Britain, Italy, Denmark and Sweden. Recently, a new group crossed in from Turkey, the official said. The latest new name to surface this week, Najim Laachraoui, turned out to be the bombmaker who made the suicide vests used in the Paris attacks, according to French and Belgian officials. Attackers used an explosive known as Triacetone Triperoxide, or TATP, made from common household chemicals. DNA evidence indicates he died on Tuesday in the suicide attack on the airport, two officials briefed on the investigation told AP. Fifteen kilos of TATP were found in an apartment linked to the Brussels attackers, along with other explosive material. The unidentified man seen on security footage wearing a white jacket and black hat at the Brussels airport on Tuesday remains at large, a fugitive link in a chain still being forged. liberalism and gun control are good things right??????!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I condemn the supporters of multiculturalism, open borders, so on for all the deaths that have happened and will happen in future. Also all the wars mongers, many who overlap naturally. Give condolences to the victims and their families. The killers at least are opening eyes, but damn them regardless naturally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormrideron Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Ban refugees. Send them back! We don't need more problems. Also people who visited middle east should be kicked out when they come back because we don't know if they are radicalized or not. We have enough domestic terrorism in United States. Let's put this terrorism to end by educating the uneducated people about it. Quote Commander-in-Chief of Svalbard Island Badassery Rating: 100% / Popularity Rating: 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Haddad Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Ban refugees. Send them back! We don't need more problems. Also people who visited middle east should be kicked out when they come back because we don't know if they are radicalized or not. We have enough domestic terrorism in United States. Let's put this terrorism to end by educating the uneducated people about it. considering every american is an immigrant. How about we arabs stop selling you our oil. how about the Chinese stop selling their goods. how about africans stop selling their cocoa. How about the Israelis stop selling you their weapons. How about africans stop selling you their coffee. How about australians stop selling you their steel. How about bigoted people stop posting stupid comments 3 Quote Caliph of The Caliphate of Arabia. Caliph of the Islamic State of Arabia. Principle of The Principality of Chechnya. Grand Emir of The Emirate of The Caucus. Emperor of the Empire of Persia. Sultan of The Sultanates of Turkey and The Crimea. Czar of the Tsardom of The Balkans. Archon of The Archonate of Greece. Supreme Consul of The Consulate of Italy. Shah of The Shahdom Of Khorason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 considering every american is an immigrant. How about we arabs stop selling you our oil. how about the Chinese stop selling their goods. how about africans stop selling their cocoa. How about the Israelis stop selling you their weapons. How about africans stop selling you their coffee. How about australians stop selling you their steel. How about bigoted people stop posting stupid comments Actually no, not all Americans are an immigrants. Descended from immigrants is very different to flat out being an immigrant. Ban refugees. Send them back! We don't need more problems. Also people who visited middle east should be kicked out when they come back because we don't know if they are radicalized or not. We have enough domestic terrorism in United States. Let's put this terrorism to end by educating the uneducated people about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puyi Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Actually no, not all Americans are an immigrants. Descended from immigrants is very different to flat out being an immigrant. Although I usually fall on the left-wing when it comes to most matters, I totally agree with what's being implied here. the "refugee" crisis is a massive sh*tstorm. Media tends to neglect that it's something like only 20% of the migrants are Syrian, and 80% of those are males. Based off the various images coming out of Europe, these men usually aren't old men and young boys, but 18-45 year olds. They're running from conflict, yeah, but it's really just desertion and draft-dodging. I think that it would be much easier to build refugee camps in surrounding Arab nations for these guys, rather than having them trek hundreds of miles into what they see as a strange, alien land. It's much more efficient, too. Women and children? Let them in. Economic migrants? Cut back. Establish quotas. You're welcome as a guest, you !@#$ up, one-way ticket back home. That's my opinion on this whole thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 considering every american is an immigrant. How about we arabs stop selling you our oil. how about the Chinese stop selling their goods. how about africans stop selling their cocoa. How about the Israelis stop selling you their weapons. How about africans stop selling you their coffee. How about australians stop selling you their steel. How about bigoted people stop posting stupid comments Oil is irrelevant as most of America gets their oil from America. We've slowly cut our dependable on foreign oil. It would raise our gas costs to around $3.50 iirc. Most of our goods come from Canada or South America, not China. The main thing that comes from China is retail things, this would set America back, but not that much. We sell the Israelis weapons. If the Aussie's stopped selling their steel to us they'd go bankrupt and the steel industry would just start up in America. You can't hurt America. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Haddad Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis Quote Caliph of The Caliphate of Arabia. Caliph of the Islamic State of Arabia. Principle of The Principality of Chechnya. Grand Emir of The Emirate of The Caucus. Emperor of the Empire of Persia. Sultan of The Sultanates of Turkey and The Crimea. Czar of the Tsardom of The Balkans. Archon of The Archonate of Greece. Supreme Consul of The Consulate of Italy. Shah of The Shahdom Of Khorason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Although I usually fall on the left-wing when it comes to most matters, I totally agree with what's being implied here. the "refugee" crisis is a massive sh*tstorm. Media tends to neglect that it's something like only 20% of the migrants are Syrian, and 80% of those are males. Based off the various images coming out of Europe, these men usually aren't old men and young boys, but 18-45 year olds. They're running from conflict, yeah, but it's really just desertion and draft-dodging. I think that it would be much easier to build refugee camps in surrounding Arab nations for these guys, rather than having them trek hundreds of miles into what they see as a strange, alien land. It's much more efficient, too. Women and children? Let them in. Economic migrants? Cut back. Establish quotas. You're welcome as a guest, you !@#$ up, one-way ticket back home. That's my opinion on this whole thing. These are young strong guys as Trump put it. To us it looks like insanity to let such people in but to those "up high" who see the world in statistics they feel this is a good thing, for you see a million youths added to an aging population is a good thing in all circumstances... forgetting that these said youths are a danger, damage the standard of living of the poor, and of course the really big one... they could just promote births in the country instead of importing people but... it's maddening but even the damn births they are moving overseas you could say! We must nationalise our birthrate and promote our birthrate. Say no to foreign birthrates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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President Tom Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 ISIS is without a doubt a major issue. Something does need to be done. I am not saying ban all immigrants, stop all refugees, check everything everywhere. But our border security must be enhanced. Research needs to be done into members and they need to be delt with. As an American living within a short distance of NYC and remembering that day, I can say one thing an that is America will not let itself or anyone else go down without a fight. ISIS has made threats against the USA, and they will be dealt with. I pray for the lives of people all over the world and their safety. I also hope that no one will let themselves live in fear either. Id also like to mention to "all Americans are immigrants". No not all are immigrants descendants maybe. But lets get real correct and take the dictionary definition "a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown" So what about the people who came before the USA was even a country? Now I might as well also mention that !@#$ Sapiens, originated in the African Continent. So are not most of us immigrants under the same concept "all Americans are immigrants" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fistofdoom Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I consider myself quite native, actually. Aside from the stereotypical twinkies. Those are the devil. Quote 01:05:55 <%fistofdoom> im out of wine 01:06:03 <%fistofdoom> i winsih i had port 01:06:39 <@JoshF{BoC}> fistofdoom: is the snowman drunk with you 01:07:32 <%fistofdoom> i knet i forgot somehnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spite Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 What we clearly need is some sort of program to incentivise birth rate. Maybe it can have a medal. *cough cough* Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio just because the Nazis did something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 What we clearly need is some sort of program to incentivise birth rate. Maybe it can have a medal. *cough cough* Something like that yeah? You know just because the Nazis did something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong yeah? Not that a medal was on my mind but hey, it's not that bad of an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spite Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The soviets did it too. It's a common factor of autocratic dictatorships in general. Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio just because the Nazis did something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The soviets did it too. It's a common factor of autocratic dictatorships in general. Only thought of the Nazi one, seems the Soviets did too. Smart people. If it is what it takes to be free of the madness bring on the autocrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spite Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Political correctness gone mad!,! We'll be letting goats marry next! Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio just because the Nazis did something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 considering every american is an immigrant. How about we arabs stop selling you our oil. how about the Chinese stop selling their goods. how about africans stop selling their cocoa. How about the Israelis stop selling you their weapons. How about africans stop selling you their coffee. How about australians stop selling you their steel. How about bigoted people stop posting stupid comments as much as i don't agree with what you're replying to, i think you would find that the saudi government would find itself very quickly no longer the government of arabia if it decided that americans weren't going to get their oil any longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoS Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) - removed for rule break - Edited March 25, 2016 by Four Abusive to Other Players - Approved by Jae, Seconded by Four Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fistofdoom Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Yes, we know that Daesh already has dozens of cells and hundreds of fighters in Europe. Many are known to the police but only watched. The problem is that the governments of Europe instead punish people fighting against Daesh in groups such as the Peshmerga and Dwekh Nawsha. I personally know a man by the name of Jitse Akse who was arrested on suspicion of two counts of murder because he fought with the Kurds. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/16/man-who-killed-islamic-state-terrorists-in-syria-arrested-for-murder-back-in-europe/ http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/15/dutch-man-suspect-killing-isis-fighter-arrest Go Dutch government! wtf Quote 01:05:55 <%fistofdoom> im out of wine 01:06:03 <%fistofdoom> i winsih i had port 01:06:39 <@JoshF{BoC}> fistofdoom: is the snowman drunk with you 01:07:32 <%fistofdoom> i knet i forgot somehnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Haddad Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis as much as i don't agree with what you're replying to, i think you would find that the saudi government would find itself very quickly no longer the government of arabia if it decided that americans weren't going to get their oil any longer Quote Caliph of The Caliphate of Arabia. Caliph of the Islamic State of Arabia. Principle of The Principality of Chechnya. Grand Emir of The Emirate of The Caucus. Emperor of the Empire of Persia. Sultan of The Sultanates of Turkey and The Crimea. Czar of the Tsardom of The Balkans. Archon of The Archonate of Greece. Supreme Consul of The Consulate of Italy. Shah of The Shahdom Of Khorason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Political correctness gone mad!,! We'll be letting goats marry next! You really need to think of your own stuff because going into that bag of tricks with me really doesn't work. For example: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/11914-bestiality/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 words https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis#Decline_of_OPEC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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