Nie Li Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Bandwagons are bad. So everyone should Declare war on PX for doing what Roz Wie did. Quote Protector of Low tier nations, from Empire of Spades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksel Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 This DoW. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I feel I got to clarify something here as otherwise people will feel that logically we must have spied dear Eric here for him to be so mad. No, he repeatedly spied one of our nations until he got caught and I told his alliance leader to tell him to knock it off. Yeah haha then you guys whined about it for ages...can you believe that Francopell actually referred to you as "one of our dear allies“? Quote Proud Canadian, Proud Ontarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbas Mehdi Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 "Hey guys thanks for calling out my allies and telling them what my thoughts are regarding their decision to defend us." On a rather serious note, Thank you Phoenix for joining the fray and assisting Rose in minimizing damage done by Roz Wei. All those shouting about how opportunistic this looks, pay no heed to them. As Rose I can proudly say I got great allies backing us up and Pheonix has done a terrific job in doing so. All the people here trying to speak for us, thank you for your considerate posts but we will take it from here. 3 Quote I am not a member of Guardian p&w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 You have lots of allies that would get involved that wouldn't necessarily be Patiently waiting...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Still waiting for "honourable" Phoenix to defend against VE and NAC. Yeah haha then you guys whined about it for ages...can you believe that Francopell actually referred to you as "one of our dear allies“? Uh... no, I mentioned it to him, he sorted it, I thanked him, that was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nie Li Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 "Hey guys thanks for calling out my allies and telling them what my thoughts are regarding their decision to defend us." On a rather serious note, Thank you Phoenix for joining the fray and assisting Rose in minimizing damage done by Roz Wei. All those shouting about how opportunistic this looks, pay no heed to them. As Rose I can proudly say I got great allies backing us up and Pheonix has done a terrific job in doing so. All the people here trying to speak for us, thank you for your considerate posts but we will take it from here. BS. Stop drinking. Quote Protector of Low tier nations, from Empire of Spades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Still waiting for "honourable" Phoenix to defend against VE and NAC. I'm sure they don't want to do anything remotely challenging like that. Quote One must imagine Sisyphus happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurdanak Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 BS. Stop drinking.I'll have you know that abbas has remained relatively sober throughout this war and the buildup to it. Pubstomper, on the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Yeah haha then you guys whined about it for ages...can you believe that Francopell actually referred to you as "one of our dear allies“?I'm feeling that was directed towards me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsPigeon Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) "Hey guys thanks for calling out my allies and telling them what my thoughts are regarding their decision to defend us." On a rather serious note, Thank you Phoenix for joining the fray and assisting Rose in minimizing damage done by Roz Wei. All those shouting about how opportunistic this looks, pay no heed to them. As Rose I can proudly say I got great allies backing us up and Pheonix has done a terrific job in doing so. All the people here trying to speak for us, thank you for your considerate posts but we will take it from here. It's not just opportunistic, it's argueably fowl play. Since you are speaking on behalf of Rose, I am assuming you guys are 100% ok with one of your allies not only lying to the world, but declaring on one of your enemies that doesn't even have slots open. You know how easy it is to check for slots before declaring? Pretty mighty easy. So congrats, on "minimizing damage done by Roz Wei." Tell your supposed "ally" to grow some balls and attack people who can actually fight. Either that or drop this fool of an alliance from your good list. Continue to "shake it off". Doesn't change the fact both Rose and Phoenix look like lying, incompetent fools all because of this worthless DoW. It's seriously surprising you actually endorse this. I expected better from Rose. But oh well -over and out- Edited February 8, 2016 by Piratemonkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placentica Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Welcome Phoenix! 1 Quote Hello! If you don't like this post please go here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allilee Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Still waiting for "honourable" Phoenix to defend against VE and NAC. The MDOAP between us doesn't stand for this war, also TKP entered the war voluntarily so if they get countered what do they expect - I have tried to get some heat taken off them but to no success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosodog Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 The MDOAP between us doesn't stand for this war, also TKP entered the war voluntarily so if they get countered what do they expect - I have tried to get some heat taken off them but to no success What's the point of an M level treaty if you're only going to honor it when it benefits you? At least throw in some non-chaining in there. 1 Quote [22:37:51] <&Yosodog> Problem is, everyone is too busy deciding which top gun character they are that no decision has been made BK in a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allilee Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 What's the point of an M level treaty if you're only going to honor it when it benefits you? At least throw in some non-chaining in there. This was agreed with TKP - as they are the t$ block and we are the Rose block Neither alliance wanted to lose their 'bigger' alliance, so this is what has happened - we would completely defend TKP if the circumstances were different, but they voluntarily went in to the war and got countered - we didn't ask for them to enter the war Also I wouldn't expect them to defend us either in this situation After the war we will help them of course And it doesn't concern you guys anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosodog Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 This was agreed with TKP - as they are the t$ block and we are the Rose block Neither alliance wanted to lose their 'bigger' alliance, so this is what has happened - we would completely defend TKP if the circumstances were different, but they voluntarily went in to the war and got countered - we didn't ask for them to enter the war Also I wouldn't expect them to defend us either in this situation After the war we will help them of course And it doesn't concern you guys anyway Gotcha. Forgot TKP hit Rose. I know how it feels to have allies on other sides, it sucks 2 Quote [22:37:51] <&Yosodog> Problem is, everyone is too busy deciding which top gun character they are that no decision has been made BK in a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allilee Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Gotcha. Forgot TKP hit Rose. I know how it feels to have allies on other sides, it sucks Haha yes it does :L We have tried to get the heat taken off them in the last few days but to no avail (if thats how you spell it) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I find the complaints in this thread awfully weird, hypocritical much? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allilee Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 I find the complaints in this thread awfully weird, hypocritical much? I agree - most if not all the complaints are coming from the mensa side of the war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatkitteh Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I find the complaints in this thread awfully weird, hypocritical much? Its an Mensa talent by now. Quote :sheepy: :sheepy: Greatkitteh was here.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsPigeon Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 More like it's the truth. You deserve to be called out on your lie. You can't just do something like this and think you're 100% in the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekaterina Kalmyk Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Its an Mensa talent by now. I was confused by this post, as Mensa aren't known for complaining as far as I know (bragging & trolling & praising Dio, yes, whining & complaining, no), but then I realized some folks are taking Mensa allies and Mensa to be equivalent -- in a poor attempt at trolling -- when they're really not equivalent. I don't really see attempting to call Phoenix out on something as "complaining," anyway. Though I'm glad to hear Phoenix's explanation as well. Edited February 8, 2016 by AstraKatG 3 Quote Original Art Credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Declare war we are opportunists. Don't declare war we are cowards. Can't win really can we. 1 Quote They bid me take my place among them. In the halls of Valhalla Where the brave may live forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekaterina Kalmyk Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Declare war we are opportunists. Don't declare war we are cowards. Can't win really can we. I'm not all too familiar with inter-alliance politics when treaties are involved, but I wouldn't say it's that simple. I personally wouldn't think an alliance is cowardly for not DoWing & choosing to sit a war out, particularly if they think they can't possibly make a dent in the enemy's forces. From what little I've seen, it's only a matter of how and under what circumstances the DoW is done that could be considered cowardly. See: comments made on the SK DoW against NAC. Edited February 8, 2016 by AstraKatG Quote Original Art Credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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