should fascists be ilegal

[LordRahl2]

 

I'm more left wing economically than you and socially I have no doubt I'm more "Libertarian" too also. Me being Nationalistic does not mean you can then say I want to genocide people because I must obviously be a Nazi.

 

So all Nationalists are fascists? I'm not afraid to say it, I put more importance on the people from my country (whatever the colour but you no doubt think I'm lying). If I have to say a country I find the most important, it would be my own again. Is it superior to all others? Ideally it should be, but it's heavily weakened by the Political Elite you support happily. If people take issue with that and think their nation is superior... all the power to them, cool, unless they're not over here anyway.

 

Laughable, oh boy, you posted a disparaging photo. Let me guess all people with your views are all trendy, have perfect bodies, good looks, and saints huh? The tactic of "all X" are ugly, poor, and so on does you no favours. 

 

 

Fascism, both in theory and practice, employs "left wing" economic policies.

[Eric]

You should be able to support nearly whatever you wanna support in this world.

 

The communists may ask for fascism to be banned, but the fascists are bringing up the communist horrors too.

 

Communism - 94 million

Fascism - 28 million

 

Deaths, just in the 21st century. Don't tell me "one has a lower number" = both are too high.

 

Some people will lean towards Fascism more - others towards Communism.

 

If Fascism is banned, then Communism should be too. How many people starved in China? 5 million. How many died under the Soviet Regime? Estimates go as high as 40 million. North Korea? - an estimated 2 million.

 

All fascists evil support Nazism and gun control

 

then technically I could say

 

All communists evil support starvation death and torture. look how well it worked in Russia North Korea and China

 

^ in your handwriting style too

Edited January 18, 2016 by Eric

[Lannan13]

You should be able to support nearly whatever you wanna support in this world.

 

The communists may ask for fascism to be banned, but the fascists are bringing up the communist horrors too.

 

Communism - 94 million

Fascism - 28 million

 

Deaths, just in the 21st century. Don't tell me "one has a lower number" = both are too high.

 

Some people will lean towards Fascism more - others towards Communism.

 

If Fascism is banned, then Communism should be too. How many people starved in China? 5 million. How many died under the Soviet Regime? Estimates go as high as 40 million. North Korea? - an estimated 2 million.

Still this begs the question of how will all of this banning be done and enforced. 

i roleplay as communist authoritarian like soviet union. i am against fascist parties are they link with capitalism to destroy the union. 

Fascism=/=Capitalism 

[Franz Von Dietrich]

Fascism, both in theory and practice, employs "left wing" economic policies.

Third Way would be the best description, but yes, it does enforce minimum wage. But that's if you're looking at Mussolini's model of Fascism.

Edited January 18, 2016 by Francisco Franco

[Dimitri Valko]

Still this begs the question of how will all of this banning be done and enforced. 

 

That's the opposite of political freedom, you can't just ban every ideology you don't agree with. If we were doing that, every goddamn political party would be trying to get the other banned... except the anarchists... because of their core ideology and all.

[Lannan13]

That's the opposite of political freedom, you can't just ban every ideology you don't agree with. If we were doing that, every goddamn political party would be trying to get the other banned... except the anarchists... because of their core ideology and all.

I agree very much so.

[Captain_Vietnam]

My Wat card beats your inconsistent grammar.

cant argue point. point out grammer logic is bad

[Dimitri Valko]

cant argue point. point out grammer logic is bad

 

Your spelling is killing me... speaking of which, you haven't exactly argued your point, either, sir.

[Lannan13]

cant argue point. point out grammer logic is bad

Stop with the Red Heron, you're not going anywhere.

[Rozalia]

Fascism, both in theory and practice, employs "left wing" economic policies.

 

I know this but it's irrelevant in context. It's right wing on the authoritarian scale something Spite mentioned and then mentioned Right Wing which implies to me Spite is calling it right economically also (it's actually more in that magical Centre ground the Political Elite always crow about).

[Dimitri Valko]

I know this but it's irrelevant in context. It's right wing on the authoritarian scale something Spite mentioned and then mentioned Right Wing which implies to me Spite is calling it right economically also (it's actually more in that magical Centre ground the Political Elite always crow about).

 

*goes to like post*

 

" You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day "

 

Goddamnit.

[Lannan13]

*goes to like post*

 

" You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day "

 

Goddamnit.

Is that a thing?

[Dimitri Valko]

Is that a thing?

 

Yep.

A really shit thing, to that.

[Lannan13]

Yep.

A really shit thing, to that.

What's the max?

[Dimitri Valko]

What's the max?

 

No idea. Rather low, though.

[Nadir Aminu]

*goes to like post*

 

" You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day "

 

Goddamnit.

I've been liking all of your posts in the past hour.

[LordRahl2]

I know this but it's irrelevant in context. It's right wing on the authoritarian scale something Spite mentioned and then mentioned Right Wing which implies to me Spite is calling it right economically also (it's actually more in that magical Centre ground the Political Elite always crow about).

 

Not really "center ground".  It does not fit into what we consider the "left/right/center wing" construct really.  Commentators frequently try to cram it into that and force it on their opponents to gain points for their side.

 

 

Third Way would be the best description, but yes, it does enforce minimum wage. But that's if you're looking at Mussolini's model of Fascism.

 

Sure.  However, all historical examples as well as theory use forms of redistribution (state control of industry, public works, various social programs, etc.)

 

This does not make people who advocate for these things fascists any more than being a nationalist makes you a fascist.  That is a logical, and an actual, fallacy. 

[Rozalia]

Not really "center ground".  It does not fit into what we consider the "left/right/center wing" construct really.  Commentators frequently try to cram it into that and force it on their opponents to gain points for their side.

 

I agree on that as the wings aspect is used politically dishonestly all too often. I'd personally peg it as in the centre with it being able to be a bit in either direction depending on the policies the particular party has chosen to include.

 

Of course these days so many political parties are so right wing that even Centre right is "left wing".

Edited January 18, 2016 by Rozalia

[durmij]

Except something tells me your brand of thug doesn't expect to be treated like the thugs they supposedly fight.

 

Defending myself and others from people who's core political principles are to cause them harm makes me a thug? K

 

I'm not saying I'm going to run around whacking bald guys and people with celtic cross tattoos. But I'm not going to pretend like i won't push back. I'll match them every step of the way. Post for post, march for march, blow for blow.

 

 

 

Funny because isn't tolerating the intolerant exactly what the anti-Fascists and Liberals do in regards to Conservative Islam? As for "at it's core", there are different brands of it and people can use certain elements and not others. I myself use elements of Fascism and Communism in my stances, yet I don't make anything a gender or race thing for one. 

 

Nice transition into your favourite topic. Islam as practiced by Daesh is beyond !@#$ed, but I can say the same thing about Catholicism as run by the pope and not call for the banning of Catholics from Europe. Western critique of Islam and it's politicization are often rooted in fear and ignorance, and almost always fail to account for the fact that many critiques of Islam could be made about every other religions and even secular society. Islam isn't even consistently practiced amongst sects. Islam gets painted with this large brush but the Westborough Baptist Church doesn't lead to everyone denouncing radicalized North America.  

[Franz Von Dietrich]

Sure.  However, all historical examples as well as theory use forms of redistribution (state control of industry, public works, various social programs, etc.)

 

This does not make people who advocate for these things fascists any more than being a nationalist makes you a fascist.  That is a logical, and an actual, fallacy. 

Do not put words into my mouth, I have made no claims stating that enforcing minimum wage is Fascist.

 

Now, if you have read the Fascist Manifesto http://www.conservapedia.com/Fascist_Manifesto,_1919 or the Doctrine of Fascism (Co-written with Mussolini) http://www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html

 

It calls for many things such as things relating to the war industry to be nationalized, social programs to ensure people had employment, or even a progressive tax to redistribute wealth, that you say is correct, besides the point you did not mention that it calls for a mixed economy and protects private property.

 

"In Mussolini’s Italy, businesses were grouped by the government into legally recognized “syndicates†such as the “National Fascist Confederation of Commerce,†the “National Fascist Confederation of Credit and Insurance,†and so on. All of these “fascist confederations†were “coordinated†by a network of government planning agencies called “corporations,†one for each industry. One large “National Council of Corporations†served as a national overseer of the individual “corporations†and had the power to “issue regulations of a compulsory character." - http://fee.org/freeman/economic-fascism/

 

   Which means Syndicalism did play a major role in certain foundations of Fascism. Unlike extremist socialist ideologies it does not in fact call for the dismantling of private property.

Beyond that, from an economic perspective, fascism meant (and means) an interventionist industrial policy, mercantilism, protectionism, and an ideology that makes the individual subservient to the state. “Ask not what the State can do for you, but what you can do for the State†is an apt description of the economic philosophy of fascism, therefore making it based in Third Way economics/politics.

 

Fascism in the simplest terms is economically centre, and socially right winged if not far right.

Edited January 19, 2016 by Francisco Franco

[Stujenske]

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Edited January 19, 2016 by Stujenske

[Stujenske]

Fascism and all even slightly right-wing organizations and political parties should be banned.

The people who are reactionary to the current New World Order should be imprisoned asap, as their non-humanist minds are a danger to the society.

There should be 24/7 opinion control on the internet and the Media. Social justice will only be fully achieved if everyone follows the high standards of political correctness.

The Antifa should support the police on the streets against all people who might not be in support of the government, or rather just replace the police. That will increase the effectivity while saving lots of money.

Every public demonstration should be accompanied by flying rocks, eggs and firecrackers. These brutal fascists need to know what they're allowed to and what not in a peaceful democracy.

The Hoothon-Plan should now be propagated openly, not in secret as "refugee crisis". 

Remember you nazis, it's [current year] !

 

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I guess you can't fix stupid.

[Franz Von Dietrich]

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Don't act as if I did not see that, you mass-murdering fiend. 

Edited January 19, 2016 by Francisco Franco

[Stujenske]

Don't act as if I did not see that, you mass-murdering fiend. 

Says the Francoist 

[Vosunda]

Better dead than red.