Jump to content

Etat

Members
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    231

  • Joined

  • Last visited

 Content Type 

Posts posted by Etat

    You don't believe in peace!

    in Orbis Central

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Anarchist Empire said:

    ... how much peace you need? lol ...

    Typically enough to ROI on the rebuild from the last war.  Wars are more fun when everyone wants to participate too, though at least you've picked the right people to antagonize!  We will fight despite being caught on the back foot, which is more than some will do. 

    Tbh this whole scenario is akin to my 6yo daughter waking me up to play at 5am on a Saturday morning.  There is no ability to reason with her or go back to a well-earned sleep, which the easiest thing to do is join in and wear her out ... maybe we'll score a daytime nap to recharge later hahaha.

    • Upvote 2

    No one wants to take over the game

    in Orbis Central

    Posted

    NPO showed us how to ruin a game and failed in the process.  @Arthur Wellington For the record TKR has always been a close knit community despite NPOLT or anything else.  That is not to say a few didn't hibernate at the time, or we didn't experience any degree of attrition.  As for the term hegemony, it is used flippantly these days, and no one group of us has come anywhere near the excesses of NPO (which is why they're so commonly referenced btw).  Also from my perspective Partisan is a potent turkey, that is all.

    • Like 1

    A proposal.....

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted · Edited by Etat

    @Hes_A_Dictator I mean the real crime here is that you are messing with the neat and orderly forums.  Missing tags, wrong threads etc.  Your content is about on par, though with 1000% more enthusiasm.  You'd do well to redirect that enthusiasm into your alliance's discord server (not Slack thank god)... I'm sure they'd love that :)

    [DOW] Midgard declares war on Withheld - Enough is Enough [DOW]

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Robert2424 said:

    I'm assuming your pointing out Damages $ wise. To me Money in-game and cost of infra are whatever to me at this point. I build up to almost 3k on purpose. that way bigger nations are able to declare on me. unfortunately people still don't stay fighting for long, even when they have more city's. So its a moot point to build the infra because I still don't have nobody give me the fight I want. Money is Temporary, and so is pixels. We'll all be lucky if 10 years from now Politics and War will still be running. 

    No I'm not talking about the $$ or infra losses.  Please correct me if I misinterpreted the theme your original post, however I would not naturally think that someone with 0 losses to their name was due to their exceptional warlike ability, or the incompetence of everyone they've ever fought.  It is hard to say what I mean without coming off a little belligerent, but I assure you that is not the case.  IMO most people with 0 losses have only ever been active raiders and/or been a part of easy dogpiles.  I do not know of anyone who's been genuinely challenged in the grind of a global where you conduct your wars strategically for the good of your allies involving accepting, or even orchestrating losses - baiting beige time etc.  Basically I'm very much saying that your war record is highly unlikely to be wholly the result of incompetence of others, but rather that of circumstance and/or good fortune.  I'm almost certain you will lose a war at some stage :) GLHF.

    [DOW] Midgard declares war on Withheld - Enough is Enough [DOW]

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted · Edited by Etat

    1 hour ago, Robert2424 said:

    Lol 10B? Yes, You'll sit there and nuke turret. lol. Plus you never Beiged me though I'm in your little Screen Shot there. I'm still undefeated. You think I'm crying over here? maybe cause nobody will stand up and actually give me a good fight. Every nation that has nukes can potentially do allot of damage, cause its nukes. Do something to impress me otherwise......I think I'll just eat some bacon waiting for the day someone challenges me. 

    It is not normally transcendent brilliance as a warrior that leads to numbers like yours my friend, though I can see how the glare from your mirror might obscure this point for you.  I guess for some it takes a little longer for the penny to drop heh??

    • Upvote 1

    [Cancellation]

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted · Edited by Etat

    1 hour ago, Gaius Julius Caesar said:

    I'll participate in this song and dance again, because this is the forums, and not Royal Orbis News.

    Cataclysm came to us and said "Hey, we're joining this war on the side of TKR." They made it clear to us that this was not them just joining to attack Midgard, they joined specifically on the side of TKR, to defend them. They were not allies with TKR. They were allies with us. We made it clear that we did not support the idea, and would not get involved, but we said to them "You are a sovereign alliance, we will not tell you what you can and can not do." but we also made it clear to them that we disapproved of this, and would not participate in their plans.

    Cataclysm joined the war, and as soon as they did, discussions began about ending the tie between us and them, because it was a major breach in trust. People can claim "Oh, well you didn't tell them no, so how could they have breached the trust, you gave them permission, this is your fault" and to those people, I will again point back to the fact that they are a sovereign alliance. They can do as they please, but they also bring upon themselves the repercussions for their actions. They came to us to talk about joining at around 8pm EST, and we made it clear we would not be joining and we asked them what their reasoning for joining was. We asked them what their CB for joining was. We asked them what the benefit to joining was. We received no solid answers, basically only being told "We want to" and soon after we were told "We're going in."

    Cataclysm made the decision to go in, despite us being opposed to it. Cataclysm had no evident CB to go in. Cataclysm joined solely because they wanted to defend The Knights Radiant, and Withheld Sphere, an enemy sphere of ours that held alliances we were repeatedly hostile with. Cataclysm knew they were going in alone, and that we had no reason nor any interest in joining, and they acknowledged that they were going in entirely alone. 

    Cataclysm came to this decision on their own. They went about it on their own. The repercussions of it are their own. We cut the tie with them three hours before day change, and they were attacked two hours later. Cataclysm acted selfishly, with no regard for what was best for the sphere. Cataclysm was attacked by Eclipse and Terminus Est, because they had joined the war as a third party. People can say whatever they desire about the war, but it was made abundantly clear that the war between Withheld and Midgard did not involve Ouroboros, nor did it involve Wayward.

    If Cataclysm acted with no regard for their allies, or sphere-mates by joining the war, and bringing members of Ouroboros into the war, something that was clearly likely to occur, why should The Syndicate join the war? We made it clear we didn't want to help TKR. We made it clear we didn't think Cataclysm joining the war was a good idea. We made it clear we were not going to get involved. Cataclysm severed the tie of Wayward when they went against the interest of their allies in joining the war, and they brought this attack upon themselves.

    Why should The Syndicate join the war to aid them? Why should The Syndicate go against what is best for itself to hold the hand of a former ally who foolishly joined a war they had no business joining? If The Syndicate joins the war against Eclipse and Terminus Est, it is clear and obvious to everyone present that Rose will militarize and join the war, and Wayward and Withheld are by no means strong enough to defeat both Midgard and Ouroboros together, but that there is the crux of the matter.

    People do not care about the "sacred importance of the treaty." People do not care about the "Betrayal of one's allies." People do not care about the "Reputation and Legacy of The Syndicate." People are angry that The Syndicate looked at a situation, saw that it was a disaster, and chose to not join. People are angry that The Syndicate looked at a war that it had no business joining, and knew would be a disaster if it joined, and chose to act in the interest of itself, and its members. People are angry that The Syndicate is not going join a war only to be defeated and take a massive amount of damage, so people can mock it. People are angry that The Syndicate chose the logical path, the same path that I point out the vast majority of people in Orbis would have chosen.

    So no, The Syndicate does not apologize for not giving you all entertainment. No, The Syndicate does not apologize for making an unpopular decision. No, The Syndicate does not apologize for not sacrificing itself for an ally that cared nothing for it, and enemies that mocked it and attacked it at practically every chance they had been given in the past. If you all believe your words will shame The Syndicate into making an idiotic decision that does not benefit itself and instead casts aside the wellbeing of the alliance for no reason, than I urge you to look in the mirror, because you're living a fantasy.

     

    -Gaius Julius Caesar, Imperator of Imperium Romanum, Vice President of Public Relations

    This reads like one of those painful, contentless weight-loss videos full of posers.  No-one is angry except you it seems.  There does not appear any breach of trust here, just a breach of your underlying grudges against TKR.  I'm so glad we dropped you when we did!!

    Additionally the assumption that eclipse has come in because of cata joining has yet to be qualified to those of us not in the back channels.  Reasonable this assumption may be, it'd be interesting to have something more solid than circumstance to support this, or some other reason. 

    • Upvote 4

    Commentaries on the War

    in Orbis Central

    Posted

    Honestly, you folks take this stuff way too seriously!  I love that people put the effort in @SleepingNinja AND @hidude45454, respect to both of you and the many others for all your contributions.  If it wasn't for people like you making the effort many would have quit the game.  I mean really, in and of itself PnW just isn't that interesting.  Also differences of opinion give the game fuel, so I'm not saying get along, rather that it'd be a real shame if you stopped putting the effort in based on some dumb disagreement instead of truly no longer wanting to.

    On 9/8/2022 at 3:17 AM, Marika said:

    Wars in PnW for the last year or so have been almost completely devoid of In-character discussion or importance.

    What is the point of Politics and War if no one will engage in politics? 

    Personally I don't have the stamina to maintain an IC persona indefinitely, that takes a human of better parts than I.  Loved the cow person when they were around though...bloddy brilliant :)

    The old IC/OOC blurry divide I think contributes to the very beige political situation we experience now.  In this context we just cannot safely simulate all aspects of real life for both some very good, and some not so good reasons.  Imo (in this game) this has led to a dependence on the few, truly creative people (not me so much) who play that are capable of contriving political scenarios/narratives while avoiding the problems inherent irl.  Like Cooper pointed out, t$ managed this well with their GG and whale tier narrative.

    Like many slippery/enigmatic things we strive to control, the harder we squeeze the more likely the thing is to slip out from between our fingers (or choke it to death).

    FYI that last bit was in no way a reference to a recent war

    Down declares

    in Game Suggestions

    Posted · Edited by Etat

    I do not think down declaring is an issue at all.  It seems to me the position that supports nerfing downdeclares is biased (or hoodwinked) to some extent by the profile whales have in debate (which is corrupted anyway) and by the unfortunate prevalence of people being unwilling and/or incapable of fighting wars.

    We shouldn’t force everyone to play a sandbox game a certain way for the convenience/benefit of a minority.

    • Upvote 1
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and the Guidelines of the game and community.

  I accept