The Illyrian

After so much time of being around this game and friends that I've met during my time here, the time has come for me to leave the game as real life is consuming a lot of my time and I think this is the time for me to retire I do wish everyone in here the best luck in their future endeavors!

During a war that matters, why not?? Compare my wars and stats to yours(hell even compare the nation age), and we'll see who can speak more when it comes to milcom

Not really, it's true that moving city score range from 50 to 100 will slightly reduce the very much bigger nations declaring on very low ones.. but the change in the plane military re-buy still gets us to the point where we are now.

Why the only ones wanting this planes re-buy change is a minority of players with approx 50-60 players total... While the majory is seeking to have a fair game play, even war wise.

What you're also forgetting is that, the 3 nations with 20 cities that will attack the nation with 30 cities(Is that the nation with 30 cities also has friends over there lol)

Well, clearly the bigger the alliance the richer they are - as said, this would only benefit the high tier alliances.

Well, the game is called Politics and War and people being able to rebuild 2/3 on a double buy and the come backs would keep coming and coming in a war & that war might be endless because of either side thinking they might have a chance since they can max rebuild air in 3 days and are close to a win(until either side goes bankrupt obviously)

I'm just speaking facts, this isn't about me or Pantheon get over it and actually speak some facts instead of just talking crap.

2,415.86 Score + 700 from the city score range update = 3,115 And a 3,115 nation score with 15 cities(and not max military, except planes and soldiers ; check pictures) would be in range of between 1,780.00 - 4,153.33. This means the 15 city nation can be on range of at least a nation with 32-33 cities.

It's a war situation I'm talking about: Well you imagine 3 nations with 30 cities declaring on 3 nations with 15 cities, what would the outcome be? Easy fight Each of those with 15 nations would be taken down real quick, and being pinned down there and most likely blockaded and zerod - the 3 nations with 30 cities could drop again, and double buy and hit another 2 targets.. You get the point?

I totally agree with the city score range, and 1/4 sounds and certainly looks better than 1/3 that is however if military re buying planes change is really necessary. So what most of the normal players, in top alliances have 1,8-2k infra. We are talking about the majority here, and not 2 raiding alliances with a total of 50 players that has low infra... And the nation I picked, only has 1k tanks max soldiers and planes and about 40 ships..

Because: So, let's say a nation has 30 cities low infra and and 0 military - it would be around 3500 score and a 3,5k score can declare between 2,625.00 - 6,125.00. What I can see right now, I just found a 15 city nation that has 2,415 score(that will also jump by an extra 700 score, which would get that 15 city nation up to 3,115 score and therefore in a range of a 30 city nation(x2 the size) and literally has only 1k tanks and 1350 planes(max) Now a double buy of a 30 city nation would be 1800 aircraft, which would still totally smash the 15 city nation after declaring.

Let's not forget, other players city scores will also jump slightly in score as well.. So, let's say a nation has 30 cities low infra and and 0 military - it would be around 3500 score and a 3,5k score can declare between 2,625.00 - 6,125.00. What I can see right now, I just found a 15 city nation that has 2,415 score(that will also jump by an extra 700 score, which would get that 15 city nation up to 3,115 score and therefore in a range of a 30 city nation(x2 the size) and literally has only 1k tanks and 1350 planes(max) Now a double buy of a 30 city nation would be 1800 aircraft, which would still totally smash the 15 city nation after declaring.

Yeah, I'm not sure if there's going to be a huge change in downdeclaring if aircraft can be maxed at 3 days, Example : A nation with 35 cities can have 3,150 planes max. If it only took 3 days to max, it means a double buy would be around 2100 planes therefore still a huge amount of planes, I agree the comebacks in war would be happening more often but as said above this only profits the high tiers, low infra pirates.

Yeah, I agree.

This is where you pretend you know something, Let me enlighten your knowledge; First of all, we went in for allies yes you correctly got this part - it wasn't just some screen shots they were even confirmed. White peace is a result of being trapped indirectly through our allies, never because we get losses. This is the part that you might not be aware - in the time of 'the great sock' I was the head of MA and high gov of Pantheon and I organised that war from the start to the bottom. Our government prevented surrendering in that part and I'm still glad I was part of it... Pantheon recently had a few 'leaders' that wanted Pantheon disbanded or merged into someone else, so now that you know all of what you didn't .. you must know that Pantheon today can handle way more than the great sock Have a good one, keep doing economics - leave this stuff to the adults.

If you think what you're saying is true - then you know less than I thought you would. Does 'The Great Sock' ring a bell? If infinite cash & resources didn't make us surrender or beg for peace - well EM, perhaps you shouldn't focus on only economics.

Now this shall build a great support^ ?

That's funny to say - you should have followed your own ALLIES when they followed you and became 'meat-shields' for TI But I don't think you respect that any longer, Congrats on your treaties though^

and the sphere?

We did what's right went through all this - for allies and friends, When TI got pre-emptied, it was Pantheon standing up activating it's M-level treaty and defending The Immortals, however circumstances seems to show this whole show was orchestrated by nasty greedy people who thought using alliances like a shield for repairing it's own side and bailing themselves out of this war and remaining a top absolute power is a good idea and will work just great this is a true failure. I only feel bad for all this people being used as numbers, not given respect and only were being thought as a distraction as TCW itself mentioned. But it all comes down to doing what's right one more time, and that is white peace and a NAP of 9 months with OD Sphere. Hail Pantheon ~SixSadistic66

So sorry to say this to you. But for 5 days I can let myself burn into real fire and not care about it.. and you go surrendering right when you have the chance to win, this is a loss for your alliance and Npo will always consider you as a loss Thank you!!!

That's most likely not happening anytime soon..

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