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    [DoW] The Second Atomic Crusade

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    A lot of people were upset by the HollyRo$e treaty but they've only spoken and debated. They say actions speak louder than words, and CoA has definitely made my ears bleed with the volume of their message. Major respect to CoA and their giant balls of steel.

    Best of luck to all parties involved, remember to have fun!

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    People wanted me to write a thread.

    in Orbis Central

    Posted · Edited by Yzard

    18 minutes ago, Prefonteen said:

    I tried my best to prevent your creation -hollywood- from growing out of control. You !@#$ed up and yes, tS failed to contain your !@#$up. Many of the people who now cry foul also cried foul when tS did fight grumpy.

    TS owes you nothing. This is not our fight any longer. Go fix it yourself.

    If you're talking about HM taking in TKR as growing too large then you can't blame Keegoz since E404 and CotL merged then dipped to become a MInc ally fairly quickly. Any subsequent sizeable gains in HW can't be blamed on Cata since they weren't even there.

    You tried to stop them from growing and then what, helped them establish the greatest power the game has seen in a very long time?

    T$ owes the game, especially the alliances that made up Oasis Inc, quite a bit when it comes to this, considering it rolled 2 spheres for the exact same thing it's just done.

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    People wanted me to write a thread.

    in Orbis Central

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    There's also a bunch of people saying "it's only until this current war ends" but there's an understandable fear that it may continue after the war, publicly or in secret. It also does very little to rule out this treaty being remade in the future. What if in 6 months time clock hits HM or Johnsons (not saying we will but a hypothetical). Will HollyRo$e partner up every time Clock goes to war, or maybe even whenever any 2 spheres go to war?

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    Peace in our Time

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    14 hours ago, Zukran said:

    Its pretty obvious Celestial and Hollywood don't have an interest in warring at the current time. However neither side can deescalate without making themselves open to attack from clock, which clock has a history of rolling one bloc then taking advantage of their already built military to attack another.(This literally just happened)

    This agreement disincentives Clock rolling Celestial or Hollywood after the de-escalation. If Clock truly had no interest in attacking either of them, then I don't see what all the fuss is about. Unless another micro bloc wanted to attack Celestial or Hollywood, which I highly doubt. Then after the Clock - Backroom fiasco everything will be back to normal. This isn't a long term pact and Celestial and Hollywood will go right back to being rivals like they have been for years. To think this some how made a jumbo bloc is ridiculous. Both sides just want to deescalate from the situation but cover there butts from clock.

    So... whats the issue? Why are we really upset?

    It sets a terrible precedent. And already breaks another. People rolled Oasis and MInc for doing this exact thing. The amount of backlash Tyrion got was insane. Now some of those very same people have done the same thing Oasis Inc did (ironically both T$ and TI are part of the MDP)

     

    As mentioned on Thalmor's show yesterday, how do we know you won't do it again? If in a few months time Clock declares on Johnsons or Haunted Mansion, what's stopping Ro$e and HW from making another MDP? Is this the new normal where HollyRo$e will never go to war because they'll treaty up at the first sign of conflict? Also how will you guys react if the other spheres made treaties too? Is this some special privilege for only HollyRo$e since the last guys who did this got rolled and then their spheres collapsed and their key leader (tyrion) stepped down?

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    [DoW]The Fear Has Struck

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    7 minutes ago, Thalmor said:

    He used the entire alliance as his own tax farm to grow his nation, then he tried to sell the alliance off.

    Don't forget the fact that they took him back with open arms after he left them after trying to sell the alliance. I'm sure he's the god of stockholm syndrome

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