Phoenix2683
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You escaped our clutches Zygon but we shall never stop couping you. Nice try!
Ataxia our Southron lizard man gator whispering King.
I will this one time only give you the highest praise a House Stark member can receive.
You aren't Zygon!
MHSGA achieves victory!
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The Hippo Horde rolls, let your Honorable men be eviscerated by their teeth, and their flesh be passed through Hippo intestines and defecate upon your smoldering fields that were once crops.
Oh hi, The King went that way, I woke up.
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I'm a bit late to the party, but I hope it was as good for you as it was for me? Have a smoke?
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39 minutes ago, Prefonteen said:
I can't even be mad. This is great.
I don't know I left it by the 3rd definition look up, it was going well but kind of went off the rails/developed too slow. I give it a 6.5/10.
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12 minutes ago, Jroc said:
It was a fun war at least for me. Over 200k Elbonians were given salvation from the Divine Bomb. His messenger AkAk will always have a warm, radiant spot in our records of Church History.
Hail Messenger AkAk, Messenger of Love and Acceptance.
It was fun fighting yall. Hope y'all have a swell rebuild :D.
n00b, I had 5 nukes, I think I need to supplant you as the High Priest of the Mendez Order
13 minutes ago, Prefonteen said:Got to admit i'm entertained by the empyreans/empyrea apologists who are claiming "OMG SALT OMG LOL OMG IT WAS JUST LORE OMG LOL".
Yes. It was just lore- a roleplayed (political) declaration from the government of empyrea which directly insulted the in-character entities House Stark and CKD and arguably did not meet the in-character agreement made between House Stark, CKD and Empyrea. CKD/HS therefore rightfully approach the IC post with IC scepticism. This is how these games work. Turning that around on them and being "OMG LOLOLOLOL SALT" memelords does not really do much other than make you look like you are entirely incompetent of politics.
Here's the thing: You chose to seek the boundaries and use the opportunity to prod and poke you adversaries in your roleplay (imo, in a far less eloquent or subtle manner as roz used to do). That's great- have fun with it. But don't whine when it leads to a reaction. That's the risk you take and if it occurs you should bear it in-character, rather than retreating to "OMG SORE WINNERS LOLOLOL" arguments.
..tl;dr, git gud
Said far better than I have been doing, thank you.
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Just now, Sketchy said:
Lmfao, if you guys are so upset about the surrender post, why didn't you ask to vet the post first?
Seems like you played yourself.
Did i say we are upset. I post for myself.
There was initial objection to a lack of a clear surrender (which to me is silly the stats speak for themselves), that is the only HS official objection in this thread, that was resolved. Beyond that maybe 3 of us have posted that we take objection to the insults thrown at us. As far as our leadership there are some who enjoyed the post, there are members of House Stark who are young and enjoy this crap too.
Like I said I only speak for myself. I used to have a discord tag in HS of being Grouchy Old Maine or something like that, maybe I should put it up again. Get off my lawn.
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14 hours ago, AkAk said:
Take a step back and relax about the whole 'honor of your alliance' thing.
The story was posted in the style of Roz Wei, all in good fun, to fit into the overall legend of Roz.
I can't believe you guys are actually upset by an alliance admitting defeat & throwing up the white flag while portraying their own alliance in the best possible light in a fictional story. Post your own story if you don't like ours. Have some fun. The vitriol, publicly and privately, is hard to understand.
I don't know, you guys might be wound too tightly for 'this world'.
I don't know about others, or speak for the rest of my alliance, but I must be. I'm not a meme king, i don't know what this Lore is, and I dont @!#@#$post.
I do know that I've run into too many people lately that are rude, insult and then claim "OMG GUYS IT WAS JUST A MEME" I find it ridiculous. Just kidding doesn't excuse rudeness. We are getting well outsides the bounds of this world and the politics of it. But no I don't play that way, sorry.
As far as vitriol, I haven't said I despise you all or want to do bad things to your dog. I consider this post an insult yes. Insults have caused many a war. If there was a vote to fight you again, sure i'd vote yes.
You know this reminds me of a group of guys who had joined House Stark a while back, every night our discord devolved into a stream of crapposting. I hated it. You have every right for this to be the style of your alliance, sure, go ahead. But I have the right to not like it, not get it, and find it rude. That's how rights and free will work.
The irony is Heinrich was always pretty good to me. I fought a bunch of proxy wars for him while he was in House Stark. I was sad he wasn't around for the war. I owe a lot of my early growth to him actually. But the real irony I was about to mention is that he tried to poach me to Roz Wei on his way out. If I had gone, i would be on the other end of this. Isn't life funny sometimes. Though if this is the RW style then I'm just not a fan of it, glad we fought
TL:DR
Just because its someones style doesn't mean everyone has to like it... Nor is style an excuse for lack of manners
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2 minutes ago, Buorhann said:
>unwilling to accept defeat
Read the TL;DR
>making excuse after excuse
Only after the first criticism was thrown at them due to bad reading comprehension
>if only it was a peace statement or surrender without salt
There was no salt initially. Empyrea/RW have a LONG history of posting up overly grandeur RP stories
So you are saying that the following was added after the fact?
1. Calling HS cowards that don't want to fight
2. Blaming the loss on Seven Kingdoms
3. Blaming the loss on Ghosts
4. Claiming to be overly outmatched and outnumbered (6 nations)
Because that is all pretty salty
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4 minutes ago, Buorhann said:
LOL
>this post would not be accepted and war would continue
You literally got what you wanted and yet you want to control how they admit their defeat? Holy shit.
Might as well ban James too for continuing to post up a RP story while we're at it since that was the fate of the previous one. I'm sure the mods here can figure something out.
No.
I didn't get anything I wanted. I was content building and was about to build another city LOL
I was called on to fight, I did. I have no bone to pick in the politics of this. I don't insult other alliances publicly. I don't other alliances to insult ours publicly. I honestly never understand the need for another alliance to admit surrender. So you see I might actually agree with you on the terms of this, but this post puts me right back in our camp. In my world you accept defeat graciously, you win graciously and let it go.
If we failed at all at that then I would speak to my leaders about it privately but RW/Empyrea taking the next step of denigrating us and making excuses doesn't make us the bad guys, it just adds to the stupidity of the whole situation.
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3 minutes ago, AkAk said:
I am not aware of SK slot filling. Every SK attack I saw (including the one that attacked me) did damage until they peaced out later.
It didn't matter for me at that point since a couple of Guardian guys with many more cities ghosted to take me out.
I don't get the salt, I don't get wanting to grind an alliance down to dust when there was nothing to provoke this attack on HS's side. I understand attacking an alliance for no good reason other than boredom - that's perfectly fine - but insisting on something other than white peace is strange to me and then crying about a legend announcing our surrender because you don't like how you're portrayed is beyond weird. It just makes you look petty. You won. Let it go.
By the way, CKD is the one that has every right to want to grind the RW guys down to dust but they seem to be good sports about it all. (maybe because they remember that RW gave them white peace after one round? - dunno).
I don't get involved in the politics of this world, another has my heart and i'm too busy to pay close attention. So the politics of why we fought are beyond the scope of this. I do know that if I were involved or was in charge, this post would not slide. I've never heard of a surrender where you insult and don't give credit to the victor.
I'm sorry you can call me petty but I consider it highly poor form to cry about losing and begrudgingly admit defeat. We all get beaten, i've been beaten down for 3 months straight, outnumbered by 1000-1 and I didn't whine this much about it.
5 Ghosts.... 44-38.... SK had nothing to do with us, take it up with them.
2 minutes ago, Clemson said:I too have taught my son good sportsmanship and it goes both ways. The winner does not demand that their opponent debase themselves, or in any way insist upon a pound of flesh to revel. We lost, you won. You don't like us. I don't care. It's a game. let's move on shall we.
Absolutely. I 100% agree. I don't know about the terms of the surrender. I have taken myself out of the running to be involved heavily in the alliance workings. If we did wrong then let that be that and people will know that, bad sportsmanship in return does not make it ok.
All I know and what the world has seen is you unwilling to accept defeat and making excuse after excuse. IF this had just been a peace statement, or a surrender without all the salt, I would have said good fight and good luck in the future.
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1 minute ago, Kyubnyan said:
TBH I'm pretty sure that the OP is just lore and shitposting, and I can get behind both of those things.
I guess I'm getting too old for these worlds. Maybe its time for a new generation. All I saw was insults, bad sportsmanship, and whining. I know of worlds where this post would not be accepted and war would continue until an apology was forthcoming.
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5 minutes ago, Clemson said:
Not only is it confounding , there is a curious lack of nobility to complain about an overwhelming victory.
I was going to heartily agree with you, but then I realized you were one of my opponents and thus with Empyrea so I am second guessing your meaning.
Since I assume you mean our response. We are not complaining about a victory. This "surrender" insulted us over and over, said we didn't earn the victory, said it was unfair etc.. etc... In my world not shaking hands and saying good game you got us this time is bad sportsmanship.
I teach my son all the time to never act like this post did.
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Just now, Clemson said:
They most certainly did attack. I lost 450 infra, many units and over 1 mil looted. I'm not whining, it is what it is, but I was holding my own in wars with HS. When the 23 city of STILLHARD entered the conflict it was lights out for me. That's a fact.
As far as us making matters worse with this thread , I am genuinely confused. We admitted defeat , we got our asses kicked, and we have all accepted peace and are moving on.
Well it is not what I was told or saw. They attacked (took our slots actually). Far from requesting their help it actually messed up our assignments. Then they didn't attack at first (maybe yours did). It makes sense with the comments in here that they were confused as to whether they were defending AIM or not. OOC (I heard they got warned for slot filling and offered peace or attacked in the wars they were in).
The point is, we didn't request them, they messed up our ability to attack, maintain staggers and not beige and the amount of damage we could do.
As for making matters worse, this post was just insult after insult. This isn't how you surrender, this isn't how you show contrition. Basically it reads like this:
1. House stark and CKD attacked us for no reason over something that happened a while back regarding a different alliance
2. HS are a bunch of cowards who don't want to fight
3. HS and CKD couldn't beat us so they used ghosts and 7K's and Guardian, and T$
4. Oh we were so glorious and it was so unfair but sure we surrender.
If you think thats a surrender and not a new CB you have another thing coming. I am not government but I don't play like that and if my opinion is ever asked you will receive another one. This came off as one of the worst surrenders and pathetic excuses for foreign affairs i've seen in any world like this one.
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1 hour ago, Blackatron said:
I know you guys probably don't understand peace terms, but here's a hint; when you agree to terms that included admitting defeat to your opponents, you don't then post an announcement that does not admit defeat to said opponents.
Or post about SK causing your destruction when in fact they just filled slots and didn't attack....
This surrender just makes me want to grind them down to dust
1 hour ago, ILikeWomen said:Sigh, you guys even got SK to wage war at us, cowards? Really? You waged war at us and you saw and KNEW that you'd lose, so you got SK to wage war at us too. Hypocrite!
SK filled slots and weren't attacking and then peaced out. This entire thread is not helping you at all.
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Where is the TL:DR? :P
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1 hour ago, Placentica said:
Not really sure why you wouldn't just make up a new alliance name and theme, but okay. Invicta might be an alliance that has some name recognition for it's existence in Shitnations, but in a lot of cases it won't be for the positive.
Do you say this to the dozen or more alliances in PnW who have existed for a while with that other game roots? Have you spoken to Pacifica or Polar about this?
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1 hour ago, Hope said:
Here's the obligatory "two weeks" on any micro DoE
Nah they are experienced
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Well this was chaos.....
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Just now, Roquentin said:
I never complained about it directly, rather there was a lack of ownership and acknowledgement that people were doing it. It was usually the people who didn't acknowledge what they were doing in that regard and had always said they didn't want hegemonies and such but had essentially built one of their own instead. Either such a situation would persist or someone within it would get bored enough to do something about it. As there were alliances with the energy to split off even if it meant risking a loss, a few of them did so and chose to give up a position of greater security. The energy is either going to be there or it won't.
However, the point in that post wasn't merely that the top alliances are all allied to each other though, just that bigger alliances being on one side means more NS can be tied together with fewer treaties and having more NS consolidated in fewer alliances makes inter-alliance coordination easier as opposed to a group that has it strength more spread out across alliances. The treaties between alliances tied to the IQ side don't consolidate more of the available nation strength to IQ even though a lot of people have been complaining about them in earnest. At most, it's just a group outside of the traditional winning side that didn't break immediately. The NS and activity isn't in really in IQ's favor no matter how many same side treaties are signed, and there's a higher likelihood of external actors leaning in the other direction when alliances that are now paperless and people with optional ties but traditionally anti-IQ aren't included. As some alliances would have better opportunities doing the opposite of signing more interlocking treaties ie. cancelling like one or two alliances did, it's a testament to the fact that the ones who would be in such a position prefer to stick it out rather than either getting out of the way of the traditional winning side or joining it.
I realize you're trying to get me on some sort of hypocrisy thing since I know who you are, which is why I've given the explanation but I never really denied anything I was doing.The way I do things in a low vitality context is highly different from the way I do things in a relatively high vitality one.
I appreciate the your thoughts on it and explanation. I wasn't really trying to be oh look at the hypocrite, more just like "really?" regarding the situation in the other realm. I mean you and I have fought hegemonies together before so I was shocked about decisions in that other realm. Anyways back on topic
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15 hours ago, Roquentin said:
Just gonna address this once: there was a specific type of consolidation referred to, meaning consolidating more and more NS into a sphere. It doesn't refer to just people who already are indirectly tied to each other signing treaties. If a bunch of small alliances signed a bunch of redundant treaties, it wouldn't make much of a difference. If those alliances were in a dominant position and signing additional treaties and adding more NS, the charge of hypocrisy would be legit since the complaints people had were about consolidating an overwhelming amount of NS into a dominant sphere and increasing sprawl/expansion such as adding former neutrals or traditionally antagonistic/non-aligned alliances.
In any scenario, one side is still the underdog and outside alliances aren't joining it. This type of imagery is very misleading since it ignores the fact that those are largely smaller alliances. Meanwhile, the top 10 has a majority allied to each other with some filling the gaps of direct treaties. The other grouping can tie a lot more NS together with fewer treaties. There's a bit of a irony in complaining about these treaties when four alliances tied to the #1 and #2 alliances or both made an MD bloc recently. The fact that there are fewer interlocking treaties that some may consider redundant doesn't change the fact that many allegiances in the non-IQ sector are more or less ironclad.
Wait Roq, You've complained about a dominant side and all top alliances being treatied to each other and adding more and more allies.... This... Wait... But..... wow....
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This should be a good time. We have plenty of spare coats to go around, because remember Winter is Coming...
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I was late to the party but it was nice working with you all, good luck in the future! Also wear a coat, winter is coming!
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22 minutes ago, Grimz said:
Actually, I think if anything here has been proven, it's how adept my research and analysis skills are. I've never watched Games of Throne, yet I know more about the show than any of you! And lol if you actually think I care about "embarrassment," keep on going through life afraid to embarrass yourself; I'm sure you'll make a ton of friends being too scared to speak. Keep listening to that voice in the back of your head that says "should I say this?!?!?! will people like me!?!?!?"
The fact that you're so fixated on pleasing the society around you is pretty funny. Are you really "taking the high road" if you wrote a reply to me bragging about taking the high road? Do you see how ironic that is? That's like saying "I'm the most humble person here." It really sounds to me like you're just trying to take the popular position in this thread for upvotes and internet affection.
Your other post in this thread was merely a poorly-thought-out insult directed towards me, do you know what that says about you? It says that your primary motivation for participating in this discussion was simply to call to everyone's attention that you have the "right opinion;" you're doing it because you see a mob of people disagreeing with me, and you want to join that mob so people will be more accepting of you, so they'll think of you as "one of us." Once again, you're proving that all you care about is pleasing the people around you because you're too scared to take an unpopular position. Not only that, but you have such a need for attention and societal confirmation that you posted here just to gain that attention, when no one even mentioned you.
I am honestly not trolling at this point. You should not focus so much on having society at large "confirm" your opinions; it'll make you a lot happier in the end. You'll wear yourself out trying to please everyone.
Also, for the record, if the #1 alliance in the game is embarrassed, I wonder what that makes your alliance?
I have ascended
Actually I would say your SJW uber sensitive and seeing racism around every corner is actually society at large now, so it is you conforming to what society wants. While I do not truck with racists and disagree with them fundamentally I also don't see racism in words that are close to other ones... Niagra falls must be a racist waterfall right?
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On 8/21/2017 at 1:05 AM, Grimz said:
I Googled it and I see that it is from a show known as "Games of Throne," but I still don't think that makes it right. I know P&W's forum demographics are majority White and so most of you don't realize the harm the name can cause; think about if someone made an alliance called "The Nazys," which is clearly a play off of "Nazi," and their excuse was "oh its just a prank bro haha its on TV." Of course there will always be a demographic blind to the fact that it's hate speech, but just because you cannot see it, doesn't mean others can't.
Wow,
Are you that dense? Do you know anything about the members or have any proof they are nazi's?
My alliance is House Stark which is another House from Game of Thrones, House Arryn is the house of the hand who dies at the beginning of GoT, who's wife is the sister of Eddard Stark of Winterfell. So instead of thinking hey maybe they are using a prominent house name from a very popular book and TV series you go straight to, it's kinda similar to a racist ideology so without any other proof i'm going to assume that.
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snitch.
Coup Guru coming for you too