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    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

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    On 12/30/2018 at 9:25 AM, Sphinx said:

    You're clearly fishing for information but if you are so interested we of course don't allow war dodging and those who did so will be booted. But for those who gave us legit reasons and who fought for a few weeks, then of course we understand why they would go into VM, and we aren't going to penalise people for IRL events, which clearly take precedence over a browser game. We course expect those people the moment they return from their VM period that they initially informed us about, to enter back into the war if it is still ongoing. If they extend it without any good reason then that's war dodging in my books and I'd have them punished. When members are in VM they don't contribute to fights, nor provide us with taxes, or anything so I don't know why you seem so obsessed with that.

     

     

     

     

    So anyone who says anything other than "Yep. Guilty. I'm a coward. " gets to stay is what you're saying 

    Terminus Est, Re-Declaration of War

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    I posted GoG's declaration of war on The Isle and I'm just a member. Somehow people were able to wrap their heads around that.

    As someone else who is totally just a member of their alliance who just so happens to be outspoken on the ofw and occasionally entrusted with posting declarations of war, I support and endorse Pre's statement that he is merely a member.

    HELLO FELLOW LOW RANKING MEMBER OF RESPECTIVE ALLIANCE. Are you enjoying being totally just a member and nothing else this fine day?

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    Time to Play Hardball

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    I just want to point out that one of the members of TFP literally deleted before we could get round 3 of spy ops in.

    Quite frankly, his agility is impressive. He could have made a great counter-hitter with that speed. You know, if he wasn't such a f***ing p**sy.

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    Terminus Est, Re-Declaration of War

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    Posted · Edited by Ashland1

    I just want to throw this out there:

     

    You successfully detonated an explosive in the nuclear research facility in Geoglia. Your spies destroyed 1 nuclear weapon. Your agents were able to operate undetected. The operation cost you $35,000.00 and 0 of your spies were captured and executed. Save this information somewhere safe; after you leave this page you will not be able to see this intelligence report again without executing another operation.
    You successfully detonated an explosive in the nuclear research facility in Geoglia. Your spies destroyed 1 nuclear weapon. Your agents were able to operate undetected. The operation cost you $35,000.00 and 0 of your spies were captured and executed. Save this information somewhere safe; after you leave this page you will not be able to see this intelligence report again without executing another operation.

    You successfully detonated an explosive in the nuclear research facility in Libertadlahnd. Your spies destroyed 1 nuclear weapon. Your agents were able to operate undetected. The operation cost you $210,000.00 and 0 of your spies were captured and executed. Save this information somewhere safe; after you leave this page you will not be able to see this intelligence report again without executing another operation.

    You successfully detonated an explosive in the nuclear research facility in Libertadlahnd. Your spies destroyed 1 nuclear weapon. Your agents were able to operate undetected. The operation cost you $164,500.00 and 0 of your spies were captured and executed. Save this information somewhere safe; after you leave this page you will not be able to see this intelligence report again without executing another operation.

     

    There's being lazy... then there's just being f***ing stupid.

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    DemonSpawn and Ashland Get Litty!

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted · Edited by Ashland1

    7 hours ago, Seeker said:

    Oh yeah, I meant to add to the original post but I forgot;  the wax sealing to officiate the document says "With Love".  It's hard to see, almost impossible.  

    At only 19 dollars on Etsy it was a steal! Quite frankly we couldn't afford not to buy it.

    DemonSpawn and Ashland Get Litty!

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    Just now, Charlie Traveler said:

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    I corrected that oversight for you guys. Also, there is an exclamation point at the end of Great Job! in every instance. It's a brand, you heathens. And also a non-political entity. Carry on!

    What is "Great Job!"? I've not heard of this before...

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

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    3 minutes ago, Inst said:

    Ashland1: it's different from your side and the losing side. On the winning side, you can just be vectored in by gov without having to worry about serious counter-attacks. If serious counters happen, reinforcements are further vectored in by gov on the attacker.


    On the losing side, you just have no guarantee of that. If you want to fight seriously, you have to adjust your schedule, meet update, etc etc etc. The activity needed isn't as trivial as you claim when you're losing.

     

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    Likewise, I'll also point out. Good alliances are not merely there for PnW. They're also online communities that sometimes even do real life meet-ups. Alliances seriously will retain non-combat members who are too busy to play just to keep in touch and get cash off them. I'm aware that some alliances on your side utilized farms of semi-inactive players to help generate resources, helped by your 100% tax rate.

    Let's break this down:

    1: I don't think it's different at all. Maybe losing is harder. But you can still at very least log in for three minutes and do something. Anything. With that bare minimum I will be satisfied.

    2: Stop saying vectored. Jesus. F***ing tacticool speak is so dumb.

    3: I'm all for redistributing resources from inactive players to active players. But if you go into VM for war you do more harm than good and shouldn't be in the alliance for any reason. Because other players will see they can get away with it too.

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Ashland1

    2 minutes ago, Noctis said:

    Most of these VM nations are likely banks or would generate income for taxes. I’m not convinced this is about some other purpose, or winning side would be expel & war their VM nations as well for dodging the war. 

    I 100% agree and if it becomes clear that anyone in GoG went into VM soon before or soon after the war began for *any* reason I would advocate as strongly as I could for their being kicked and rolled. I'm not in gov, but as a member who did his part and fought in the war that's what I'd believe. And I think it's a slap in the face to members who did their part to do otherwise.

    If you don't have time to log in 3 minutes a day for months you shouldn't f***ing be playing, should you? So do the honorable thing. Delete and save us the gas and munitions.

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    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

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    1 minute ago, Inst said:

    There's a difference between people who dodged war, and people who had serious outside commitments and contacted their gov for permission. Not all VMers are war-dodgers.

    I acknowledge there's a difference. I acknowledge that a very very small number of innocent people will be caught in the sausage grinder. I acknowledge that that is unfortunate. But I still believe it is necessary to preserve the integrity of the alliance going forward and to minimize as much as possible people doing that.

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    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted · Edited by Ashland1

    8 hours ago, Buorhann said:

    I see it as contradictory too.

    Even so, it'd help clarify the stances of the three different sides in the coalition as well, so TKR and their allies will know what to expect come the future after the war and how to adjust their FA game.

    I may discuss this verbally on my show, but there is (at least to me) a difference in how to approach alliances that are set forth in doing either "blanket damage" or "punishing legit dodgers".

    For example:  If NPO, BK, TEst are pushing for blanket damage and Rose, Syndicate, CoS are pushing for punishing legit dodgers - then it would allow TKR and Friends to know exactly how to approach any of those alliances in the future if a conflict comes around and they're on the victorious side against them (Or what to expect if they're working alongside with them).

    It would also let those sitting on the sidelines watching the expectations from these alliances as well.

     

    Personally speaking, I'm awfully curious about how this will be settled.

    Yeah, I don't know what the arguing is about. Anyone who dodged should be kicked from the alliance and rolled. If my enemies were willing to do it for me, all the better. The worst thing TKR and TCW could do is say "This behavior is not only acceptable, but we will defend you in peace negotiations too."

    That is just dumb. And while I've been told nobody in GoG dodged (one person was quit the alliance a week before I was even aware of a war, another person went into VM weeks into the war, and a third person deleted a month into the war) I'd still want them kick-rolled even though we won. Quite frankly, if they fear our enemies more than reprisal for cowardice that's a problem. They should fear reprisal far more.

     

    "But what if they had a good reason."

    We shouldn't have to judge people's stories. Weigh stories against each other and say "We like your story more than his story so you won't get kick-rolled." I think the litmus test is pretty simple. If you went into VM or went to another alliance very soon after realizing there'd be a war or very soon after a war starting, you get kick-rolled. Period. Even if you had a nice story. Even if you had proof of your nice story. Because people need to understand that they won't be able to get out of it by ensuring they have a good excuse at all times. Which is something people could do. Or if they do want to do that, they should be in another alliance.

    Global War Peace Terms - Discussion

    in Alliance Affairs

    Posted · Edited by Ashland1

    I'm late to this, but I figured I'd add that if someone did go into VM in GoG upon war start I would aggressively advocate them being kick-rolled regardless of whether or not they had a good excuse. I don't call the shots, but I think there's a convincing case to be made that they should be kick-rolled even if they DID have a good reason and even if they could prove it.

    The very appearance of impropriety constitutes impropriety. The appearance of weakness constitutes weakness.

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