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    [Treaty] Why NAP when you can sleep?

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    51 minutes ago, Sketchy said:

    Given the original people who made the claim have backed off it, and are no longer responding or claiming we wanted the one day war nap, I suppose that settles the issue.

    I guess that's one way to look at it. From what I gather, they repeatedly denied your claims, and you didn't prove them wrong and don't seem to intend to, which is fine. 

    While it does seem they've stopped engaging here, this could be for any number of reasons like:

    - They believe they'd be repeating points made ad nauseam and chose to do whatever else;

    - They can't prove the negative of "TKR wasn't working on a deal of their own";

    - They have started reaching out privately, etc.

    I'm not sure that means the matter has been settled? That said, I'm not particularly vested on the narrative either way, was simply curious.

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    [Treaty] Why NAP when you can sleep?

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    Posted · Edited by Daveth

    38 minutes ago, Sketchy said:

    The parties who I was arguing with before random members interjected themselves into the conversation know exactly what I'm referring to. Most of them aren't the ones arguing here anymore though, so it would be probably be bad form to start log dumping on them. I probably would have done that back in the old TGH days.

    To be honest, I'm not interested in whether or not bystanders or random members believe what I'm saying. Otherwise you are right, I'd just dump the logs. The parties I'm talking to know what I'm referring to, and the posts I have been making were more directed towards them than towards random members, or FA heads who weren't in any of the chats last war.

    On an unrelated note, the thread has reached 10 pages. It's too bad the forums aren't this active more often.

    Cool, good on you to acknowledge it - kind of weird to take it out on TKRs folks or Wilson in the crossfire. I'm just saying, its a bit harder to argue you didn't want a NAP when you've signed an extension, and then decide from there between their claims and yours, y'know?

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    [Treaty] Why NAP when you can sleep?

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    Posted · Edited by Daveth

    On 4/22/2024 at 3:09 AM, Sketchy said:

    These are all claims I can easily support with evidence, if I have to. (...) But past behaviour is a pretty good indicator for future behaviour, and TKR has proven time and time again, that collaboration with you ends poorly for us.

    I'm gonna be honest, I find it largely understandable @lancelot1 or anyone would take issue with going along with your claims on TKR, right? Not to say I haven't had my bone to pick with them in the past as well... 

    But I've often noticed there seems to be a dynamic of FA heads alluding to having evidence of their claims for the sake of posturing and then withholding said evidence for the sake of OPSEC or some other similar concern. This makes it basically impossible for anyone, let alone someone who has no reason to trust you and doubt their government, to be convinced or take your claim of current or past wrongdoing at face value.

    From my understanding, there seems to be a chunk of context missing, which makes it more credible to me as an outside observer that you were "bailed out", "rescued", whatever you want to call it, than the proposed alternative you spoke on extensively. So I don't think its entirely unfair to be dismissive or skeptical when the burden of proof is on you? Again I don't even really like @Dr James Wilson either lol. 

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    Camelot Statement

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    1 hour ago, Jacob Knox said:

    Epi thinks we want to fight Camelot? That's hilarious. I don't know about the rest of EVH gov, but Camelot is very low on my list of alliances I'd like to fight next (if they're even in that list).

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    Frankly I don't know either. Epi and I have had multiple conversations that went well, and the same applies for anyone on our end that spoke to him, so I figured we were past this point where he believes we're out to get him... 

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    Event Horizon is here

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    Posted · Edited by Daveth

    9 hours ago, The Titan said:

    Four leaders? Good luck with that part… I’ve been there

    Also what’s with the eclipse flag rip off?

    Other than that though, gg guys, I expect great things here

    Yeah I understand the qualms behind a shared leadership also, trust me, coming off VE. But between Jax and Piggy they convinced me it can work, and I'm confident it will.

    Uhhh. One is an eclipse and the other is a blackhole... two separate celestial events? Not to mention we're a space cult.

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