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  1. More like Alexio deserves to continue getting hit for being an unreliable individual! Thanks friend! This is proof we needed to know if Alexio is the leaker or not. Thank you for helping your allies in finding out those who leak! You're the best! xoxo
  2. From what I know from the tS one, it was. It was literally everyone attempting brinkmanship with one another that ended up badly for tS. I mean you've mentioned on the PnW public discord you escalated in the hope that BK would back down, similar to the situation during KF, and this time BK called your bluff. Whether right or wrong, I do not think that it was a pre-planned to escalate on so and so date. With regards to OWR/Carthago, the NPO being the one who hit them first, I can tell you that we did so when it was the most opportune moment that wouldn't add more pressure on the rest of the coalition, given how it was necessary to ensure we can carry out a hit strong enough to nerf any strength in numbers you may have had. Good question. Have you asked @Malal. I defer to @Malal our under lord gc.
  3. "Only we're allowed to consider logs as a serious threat. If the NPO does so, it's a lie and killing the game." Adrienne telling us after the fact that we received the said information and hit, is similar to how you believed that BK's denials are false. It's not that her denials do not meet our standards, it's we have evidence to the contrary and we hit based off that information, same as you did, no? What is and is not a threat, is not for you to decide, so I'd suggest you slowly walk yourself back down from that hill. The NPO decides what is, and is not a threat to our security, and TKR does it for TKR. I'd suggest you leave us to our threat perceptions based on the information we receive, since that is the same standard you believe you are entitled to have. But I understand if your entire argument is one standard for TKR (the right one!) and the NPO is simply a lying deception machine (because we aren't toeing TKR's lines like good little dogs you want us to be). And you got the NPO to work with NPO because it was a necessity of survival. That says more about TKR's threat than our ties with BKsphere, which weren't particularly strong because we were done with IQ, and moved on. But we can discuss how your CB is a standard only applicable to TKR another time. I believe this OP deals with logs shared by Alexio (your coalition partner btw) on plans to hit TKR while you seemingly have not done the same planning? I mean KETOGG I know can't claim to not have planned a war against BK, seeing how they spent most of April attempting to have NPO to sign up for that war, and therefore none is innocent here. The difference though is, despite those approaches, we did not let BK know or share the information with them, because you know we aren't allies anymore (at that point in time). Y'all seem so intent on trying to claim to be honourable, yet your actions and hands are as dirty as the rest of us. It'd be nice if you get off your moralistic high horse and recognise TKR is no different to any other major alliance in this game. You plot wars, you do what you want to do, but that's okay. You're allowed to have a monopoly over those actions, while everyone else just has to wait their turn to be next. At the end of the day, trying to claim a moral high ground when you've been caught plotting wars, and trying your best to unravel the bulwark system of mini-spheres is fun to see, but disingenuous from an objective level to claim you're any different to everyone else.
  4. Which was? The NPO took no actions in Orbis because of CN or vice versa. It was a different alliance that did things not particularly related to Orbis or the NPO here whatsoever. And you also mean when the NPO joined and was treated to every major bloc in the game with no real grudges/plans?
  5. I mean the demand was simple enough. Do you wish to discuss your surrender or not. You believed you hadn't, so there was nothing to discuss. If you wished to surrender at any point at time before the 1st, I doubt anyone would care enough to "reject" it because it wasn't on the 1st. I've mentioned the same to folks in your coalition to let it be known that if you do wish to surrender, we'll accept it whenever to move to the next stage. You had no interest to surrender, and when you finally did, we opened talks with KERTCHOGG, and explained the process and the reasons for it. You decided to abandon it. Those actions are documented enough. The expansions were coincidental, especially the tS one, given that the those talks were opened what on the 8th of September, 2019? But it's nice that you try to conflate the two into one narrative. Maybe I should start the spin that the only reason we see this topic is because you all believe BK is broke and happened just after the Gorge news was released to the public.
  6. Yes yes, all of our deals were made seven years ago, and we're finally carrying out the long game here in another world. This is the way.
  7. I mean it took you four + months to agree to surrender. It takes two to tango when it comes to peace. If your side is refusing to approach peace till November, it's not really our fault. We opened out negotiations with KERTCHOGG and were willing to move forward, so if anyone tanked talks there, that'd be you. In the past, sides were willing to take the L, and move on to plan the next big war, but in this case your side refused to even consider it till November, can't really pin that one on us, however hard you attempt to. With regards to the substance of the peace talks itself, the explanations have been communicated to the negotiators of KERTCHOGG, so there's nothing more really to be said. You made your choice in supporting this public call out, so there's really not much more to say.
  8. False. I spent months trying to chat up Leo/Sisy and got nothing. I spoke to HS about continuing the tie and they stepped and attempted to mediate, and we got nothing. The treaty was dead to us when the OWR/Carthago signings were made, followed by the actions of Leopold right after. tS was always an equal partner at the table, given how we followed all their demands to make N$O work. We consented to it, because we believed HS/NPO/tS are equal partners in the project and did our best to compromise with all of them in the hope that the project would work out. tS on the other hand refused to communicate for months, and any and all communication since then has been accusing of leaking, or OOC mental health jabs. Once again not true. BK and NPO are but two members of a coalition of multi-varied alliances. If you're bringing up the topic of OWR/Carthago etc, their actions were problematic to the coalition and were warned early on, that any such agreement would be a valid CB. It isn't the shutting down of dissent, but making the framework of operations clear and transparent. Dissent itself exists within the Coalition, and its why the work of all the leaders at the table is to listen and build consensus. We've spent hours as a Coalition, discussing and debating steps forward and it is pretty cute that you proclaim that BK/NPO somehow has full control and kicks out dissenters. That's simply false. I'm saving this post. This is honestly the first time any TKR member, especially one from the old guard has been honest of the breakdown of TKR-NPO relations in years. Whenever this is mentioned as a stumbling block, your present FA gov waves it off, as some sort of not true claim, and it's all in our heads kind of defense. So to see a TKR member being honest about something is truly refreshing. Note: Azaghul also publicly chided Kayser back in early 2018, when Kayser was trying to build bridges between TKR-NPO that was leaked and next thing we know the talks were canned. So it's nice to see that you finally agree that your problems with us, and planning to roll us in this game stems from activities that happened what 7 years ago now? Please show me where NPO has ported in dislikes and FA position from another game! We've worked with almost everyone here in Orbis at one point or another, except with you of course @Buorhann, but I'm yet to see where we've ever conducted FA actions here in Orbis, based on stuff from another game?
  9. Buorhann finally admits he's salty about losing a war! Nice to finally see some honesty.
  10. When in doubt or you want to promote a lie, blame the NPO! Its like standard PnW PR spin since 2016 XD
  11. Yes consolidating spheres and trying to win wars. I do love how though, if Chaos/KETOGG is reactionary, it's because of necessity and to save themselves and that's all good. But when we do similar "reactionary" actions, we're killing the game, and it's terrible and we have something to prove to all of you (that we are great at killing ourselves for your pleasure.)
  12. Remember when you tried to write us off? Remember when you thought I'd take a loss? Don't you remember? You thought I'd need ya! Follow procedure, remember? Oh wait you got amnesia? It was my season for battle wounds, Battle scars, body bumped, bruised, Stabbed in the back, brimstone, fire jumping through, Welp, Parti baby, we now got bad blood. Thanks for nothing! I look forward to EMC v2.0 coming up next
  13. Can't you go for a jog, play a sport? Should be way more healthier tbh. I dropped about 20kgs once I started playing football (not NFL handegg) on a serious basis, and maintained a moderate diet. Haven't been overweight since!
  14. Already counted under the NPO stats The reason being more so was GPWC was our banking AA when they ported over, so Frawley's collection of bank AAs to count to the main AA hasn't been separated out in this case. So their wars are counted under the NPO column. Before someone claims this is to boost our stats etc, it isn't. Bank AAs get counted under all main AAs, and they just happened to be on our bank AA. The call to split it, is up to Frawley
  15. For Steve! Glad to be able to defend Steve once again. I'd have you note that MK leadership is in this game, and hates us That being said, Opus Dei/Drinking Buddies Doctrine is far superior to lame 2007 mentions!
  16. Right. That's the difference between you and EM. One recognises the issues with theft and a damage to a banking system that is necessary to the game, the other hopes to keep stealing and getting away with it, with a sign post of "do something about it." So you can see why folks would take you up on that, especially if you're led by someone who has done some questionable things and then followed it by ripping all his friends/alliances/allies off :3
  17. Fun to see cooler heads prevail. Looking towards moving on from this chapter, and I'm grateful that @Elijah Mikaelson and ourselves could come to this agreement.
  18. Yay?! Also inb4 someone reports this thread for being a joke treaty, tis real o7 Opus Dei o7 Friends with Benefits.
  19. I shall shine brighter than a fire work Aww, not a fan? @Do Not Fear Jazz its such a bad idea that its great!
  20. No thanks. I'd be promoted then, this is too much work xD Roq's probably the most efficient leader in this game too
  21. Best leader in PnW rn From what I can gather, that was Leo's position as well
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