Saru

Reading comprehension on these forums has not improved.

Bitter over what? It was just a joke given how all of the polls go in the forums go, given the active presence of Mensa members on the forums. You need to get a grip.

If you want the moderators to be made up of Mensa members then sure.

Great group of guys!

What happened to keeping the two games separate?

Polaris has always been a stalwart ally. In this and other worlds (since discussing both seems to be the new trend ). Many thanks and glad to be fighting alongside ya'll!

Combo breaker.

I'm not fluent in parseltongue.

Well this will be a sweet reminder.

There is no 'entirely in the right' -- given the context of the game. The logic for the war is obvious: some were getting restless, some others more politically minded felt they were losing relative power and decided to strike out instead of waiting and hoping everything works out. Trying to deflect from that though is ridiculous, and deserves to be called out.

"observed" -- I guess you've been reading the Wiki pages on yourself.

And again, for the most part UPN members understand that, and from what I have seen in public and internal discussions there is a level of respect for all but one of our 'enemies' and no hard feelings towards them. Apart from the alliance with the continuous lies and spin coming from several directions.

You mean right after it was leaked that tS had been proactively trying to get us rolled? We had ample opportunities to attack you, but didn't. Eventually when it came down to the war it was funny how ya'll went up in arms then -- and are now defending a position that is a whole lot weaker than ours then. I mean it is to be expected, just pointing out the hypocrisy. No. The first chance was when the whole community saw that you were actively pushing to get us rolled, and trying to get the plans started. You have to be trolling at this point? Nobody cares any longer about your empty words.

It's a mutual defense treaty... So yes, because you had decided to proactively go after NPO, I understand that we were a "threat" given that we told you that we will defend our ally in the case of an aggressive attack -- but ultimately your whole argument rests on you wanting to attack NPO. It's clear your mind has been made up for awhile now. I don't see why some have to keep up with the other bullshit mentioned in the earlier posts.

That's fair -- and I would agree that the likes of Mensa got restless. I was moreso speaking in reference to tS trying to paint that it was NPO/UPN who wanted this, and between the two camps, it should be obvious who was itching for it.

Nor will your nonsensical posts. Or any of the posts for that matter -- since the forum is largely inconsequential, and the sides have more or less been formed. Props for having the self awareness to recognise your faults though.

Glad that you came around. An improvement on the fully qualified village idiot. I have still seen nothing concrete to show that NPO was actively plotting an attack on tS. And I was one of the few idiots who decided to actually read the two threads full of shitposts. The logic behind hitting us is clear. But it is also clear that it was tS who wanted this war... anyone with a bit of time, and who isn't mentally handicapped will be able to see that. And as a sidenote like I said, I just find it funny that some of my predictions in regards to you have come true yet again. I find it bizarre how some others are not capable to see right through you.

We signed an MDoAP. You were going to attack our ally for one of the most pathetic reasons used in P&W to date. No shit we were going to defend them. You didn't have to plant a multi to understand that. But call it for what it is. YOU wanted this war, and that much was clear when Hans tried to de-escalate the situation. tS were itching for it. So all of the rhetoric about how UPN was also gearing up and plotting your demise, is funny to see -- especially when your own "proof" states that he was looking to de-escalate the situation.

Yes you have. And you either don't know about it because you buried your head in the sand/your leaders did not relay things properly, or you are consciously spinning again. Oh yeah, thanks so much for your 'goodwill' -- let's pretend it was purely out of love for us, and not other factors that you considered. I don't think you are remembering things correctly. Something which we explained to you, and tS claimed to understand. Hans hasn't been hostile towards you at all. In fact he went out of his way to try and de-escalate this whole issue, because we all thought it was retarded. Again -- not going to even bother commenting further on the latter point, because as I said, that's one of the more idiotic lines of reasoning. Once again, I will note that UPN were fully honest with our intentions -- in that we will defend NPO in such a case, but we will not go aggressive on you to whomever asked. Lines of communication were kept open, and we were open to continuing what some thought was an 'improvement' -- but made it clear that any treaty will come about based on your actions, not on your words. And looks like we were right to do that. Let's be real, by "falls into your hands" you mean actively spying. Also a mobilisation order which is pretty much routine, or should be, for every alliance given what went on in the last few days? If you haven't noticed alliances on your side started militirising way back. It doesn't take a genius to work out the real deal here... No one is complaining about the consequences. I am just further pointing out how much full of shit you guys are -- and hope that people will stop finally falling for it, because it's like dejavu over and over.

Nice to see ya'll are still around. Look forward to meeting on the battlefield!

You seem to be missing the point. We fully understand why you pre-empted us, and have no issues with it as far as most of the alliances in the coalition go -- be it Mensa, or Guardian or whatever. However those alliances have not been dishonest in their interactions with us. Yes, we signed an MDoAP, so if you were going to attack NPO for no reason other than some trivial bullshit about another game -- of course we were going to have their back. Don't try and spin that we were planning some sort of war against you, when your own leaders know that UPN proactively tried to stop it. Imo you guys just don't have any class about you. Sure, you are good at 'playing the game', but the true colours are showing more and more, and people will believe in your bullshit less and less.

I did not say I did not understand your logic. I said you have proven to be dishonest yet again (which is not even a bad thing per se, considering it's a politics game), it just baffles me how some people take awhile to catch on to it and don't see you for what you truly are.

Well at least you have given up on the spin. Not sure why you think that, because it is not true. For the most part UPN likes Mensa -- even now. It's other figures most of us are distrusting of.

Nice to meet you on the battlefield again Mensa! It's always fun fighting ya'll.