Rozalia

But it has been accused of being a group of sex hungry degenerates who want the arses of men, and also of being paedophiles who just want to rape kids. I don't agree with such things of course as I'm perfectly good with what adults want to do with each other sexually, but yes, it is worth mentioning when you as a gay man try to shame others in a way that others have in the past shamed your own group. I'd say you having to resort to this dishonest shows you already lost, but you have long since lost so it's just another for the pile. And what is wrong with finding it attractive? You're just pissed I actually don't discriminate so you can't say I'm being racist, so you shout sexist instead. You're a predictable joke.

Nope. What I said is being from a group which has had to suffer such accusations in the past you'd know better to fling them at others. Unlike you I don't discriminate based on what adults do in the bedroom. Why is a loser posting past January 20th? You going to disgrace and humiliate yourself further by not sticking by your word? As for your trifle, this deals in the average immigrant so your point is worthless as the other two areas have them in a much greater number. A discussion on this subject is not racism. If you feel it's racism because the answer is so obvious then sorry bucko, but that simply means one answer is better than the other. Not because of the races involved, but simply because for a myriad of reasons those places are as the Democrat meme goes, shitholes.

I know what the term means and how it is perfectly legitimate to ask to make a point. It either makes you honest, or shows your cowardice in regards to the Discord thing. You decided to be cowardly instead of honest, what a shocker. Typical progressive. Prove of these accusations = zero. I love this by the way. Accuses me of being racist and hating Muslims and all the rest. For me to tell him one thing I like about Muslim culture. I respond that I like how their women dress and the Hijab is also a nice sexual garment. His first response is to say I need to get laid, which I reply that I do need to get laid by more Muslim women yes. Then he calls me a sexist. As for the sexual object thing... not a shocker a puritan progressive priest would say such things. Just being willing to talk about such matters to start with puts me down as a degenerate monster to you. This from a homosexual, who I'd think would know better then to try to shame people with accusations of simply being perverts. All the facts point to them being best yes. You're just mad that I made you face up to that fact and that when you, being a progressive, try to argue for the other side because "those poor brown and black people", you discredit yourself by looking like the complete fool you are as none of the facts are on your side.

Good to see you have graduated from implications. Yet you won't be able to provide a single shred of proof of this racism, and I'd ask you to, but I am aware you recently found out about the term "loaded question" so you're very into shouting that out in response to any questions. Folks. This is a soy boy who calls me a Nazi when I'm promoting immigration of East Asian and Jewish people. He has no credibility, no evidence, and has shown himself as dishonest as even when the evidence proving him incorrect is all laid out on the table, he refuses to change as alas, he hates the Roz so much that he cannot bear to admit the Roz is correct.

Oh boy, more attempts to refer to me as a racist. Then again this is a character who thinks I'm a white supremacist/Nazi for being for Chinese immigration so what the hell. For those unaware me and ol' Starbuck had a little contest on KT's discord. Krieg sums it up nicely. Starbuck and his ilk is too PC to be honest.

Wow. Starbuck is dead.

Oh boy, taking a crack I see. First lets address the calling me racist bit, even if you don't outright say it. The options are as they are because of how the Democrat meme of Trump goes, where Europe and East Asia are put on one side, and central/south America and Africa on the other. Second. There are good immigrants from all those places certainly, but we're talking averages here.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/01/25/tolerance-takes-hit-americans-less-accepting-lgbt-people-2017-survey-shows/1062188001/ So it's down for the first time in 4 years... so it went down during Obama too... but whatever. Let me first point out why the premise they lead with is I believe incorrect. They list 4 bullet points, they being GLAAD, whose name used to be an acronym... but then they thought it wasn't inclusive so they got rid of it... anyway... The first is meaningless. Yes, people will become less tolerant because LGBT content was removed from some websites. The second I would think have the opposite effect as the whole bathroom thing was only drumming up distaste. The third didn't happen... and the forth was last week so... would have no effect on the results here. It's final effort is to claim a massive uptick in hate killing on homosexuals, up 86%... all the way up to 52 deaths. Dubious on the linkage there. Now that was their part and if you disagree with me you're free to push it. My answer is different. The reason why they suffered this small dip, and it could be regained next year or continue to slide... we'll see... is to me more a product of the mess LGBT has become. I'd compare it to Feminism which today, for all the favourable press it gets mainstream, has horrible numbers among both men and women. When you put it on too much, people will begin to reject it. Simple as that. Who knows everything LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for? How about the delightful QUILTBAG? GSM? DSG? Heck, many I've talked to have trouble simply with the Q and if they know it then they don't understand it (!@#$? But isn't that just being gay?). How about skoliosexual and all the maaaaaaaany others? How about the concept of people who have sex with people of the same gender as them... but are heterosexual? In the face of all that sort of stuff the positive idea that LGB people are simply normal people who like to have sex a little differently so to speak, gets replaced with them being weirdos you don't want to keep your children around via their partaking/association with these other people. As for the T in LGBT, they get lumped with all sorts like the third genders, the Transgenders, and all the rest which does them no favours. Now, to repeat, this is a small difference that may well climb back up next year. However I think this is worth discussing as this effect could be felt in 10 years time bigly, that being how by endlessly expanding to get off on your virtue will only put off the people ultimately you need to win over. Anybody remember that said effort to have the rainbow flag, a glorious and very well known flag, to have black and brown bars on it because... save the blacks and browns? The people who did it loved it... while everybody else despised it. Less is more as they say.

I see the like on Wisdomtree's post by a mod. Great. You can start now. Where did my two threads break the rules, go. I'm going to predict, like all the last times, you can't.

All sounds very heartwarming but... you are aware how many of those guys are criminals right? Just look at the likes of Sweden and other places who have brought in a pop that is poor, low educated, and have a bad culture. Of course the best from those places should be welcomed but that is not the nature of this thread, this is an all or nothing sort of deal. You don't get to single out the good from the bad here. Edit: Also. Immigrants from those areas are proven +s, not so much from the other areas. Though the level of value lost via crime and the like is not quite quantifiable I'll grant.

This is your goodbye post I take it which is good. LordRahl2 knew better than to get destroyed one last time on his way out, but it seems you want one for the road. Okay. First off allow me to remind you that East Asians are in play who are regardless of what the priests of progressiveness say, not white. However that isn't to say others can't immigrate legally, sure, bring 'em, but only the best please. Cream of the crop and not the chaff as I like to say. People are free to think stupid things if they wish. I have been playing nation sims for 11 years so I'm quite the stable genius if I started at 3 years of age. As for the racism thing, again, they are free to try and make that stick but everyone who has tried has failed. Your claim that I have brought out alliance mates in here to upvote me is completely false. None of them as of this post have upvoted me and the only one who posted was Lucifer Morningstar who in essence opposed me. As for "people coming out of the woodwork"... you're a year and a bit behind. Things became more, open if you will, on here over time but it culminated in my glorious victory over LordRahl2, as along with him went his little faction if you will. They were Fabian Society types, Neoliberals and the like, the "moderates". Smart guys though when it came to politics, policies, and the like but alas derangement hit them hard and they became mere insult spewing machines who soon could no longer hang with the Roz. We are in lovely agreement on Milton. Again, like your 14 year old, racist, sexist, whatever nonsense, stop trying to delegitimise me with such nonsense. I am well aware how to act depending on the situation so your implication that I what, randomly burst into talks on immigration, Trump, Brexit, whatever when I'm looking to dick a woman is off, As for safe space, nah. You guys are defeated again and again by me but always try to play it off differently, so I simply put you in a situation where there is no hiding from the fact that you where you were confirmed to not be the Roz's equal. You weren't bad though, but like with Rahl you degraded over time and became a shell of yourself. The Roz on the other hand doesn't degrade, he only improves. Merely look at the case of Rahl for example where me saying "cuck" for a few weeks (not even directed at anyone here, whereupon I then stopped) got him to endlessly say it in every post for a year. He weakened, I strengthened. And with that... another one bites za dusto.

And how exactly am I supposed to do to meet your standard of "not spam" (Linking to the Guardian and discussing an article of theirs is spam now? What isn't spam then?)? Huh? Go on, lets hear it. I linked the article that is to be discussed along with it's subject matter. I provided my take. Left it for people to respond to. So come on, what should I have done then in those two threads?

And we have further examples of bad moderation by @Frank Castle and @Erin Brockovich and perhaps the rest of them while at it as they may have signed off on it. Lets run through the rules shall we: 1: Title was appropriate, summing up the contents nicely. 2: In immigration thread linked to the article with the information being discussed. 3: I took some pieces of the article and started the discussion off. 4: This one applies to the Trump Day one most. There indeed is no debate there, it is a listing of events after all, but it doesn't have to be. A subject merely needs to be provided for discussion. 5: Not spam. If linking to an article and talking about it is spam then everything is. Oddly I've done this article linking many times and only now are the mods trying to stop me... wonder why. 6: My opening posts in both cases were in depth. Conclusion: In the Trump thread I mentioned Trump Derangement Syndrome, what those mad at Trump often suffer from. In the immigration thread I ripped apart the lefty policy of deeming everything racist. They belong to those groups. They're mad that the mean ol' Roz is easily making them look like the joke they are. They are moderating, a verbal warning yes, but with a threat of actual warnings if continued to try to make the Roz stop in his posting of threads that show their politics for what they are. Insane disgusting, garbage. @Alex I get you're a lefty progressive type too, except when you go off the reservation anyway, but this is blatantly transparent. Tell your mods to man up (crap, negative gender based statement) and face me in debate if they're so triggered (of course I know, you know, everybody knows that the Roz would then easily destroy them) and not to try these pathetic attempts while hiding behind moderation. Oh and as seen above, your mods clearly have no understanding of the rules as I previously said. They only provide more evidence of this fact.

The matter of discussion is Rozalia vs Caecus that was set done many months back where he took on my challenge. That being me saying the fake news was wrong and Trump would be president for a year, his stance being it was right and he'd be removed before then. As shown I won and those who believed the fake news and the words of all those so called experts now have a reason to post in here, reflecting, that perhaps the genius that is the Roz should have been listened to instead. If Caecus had stopped and paid respect to the Roz by admitting the Roz was correct back then, he would not have lost on this day. Anyway, please note the rules again that nothing specifically says that this is a subject that cannot be discussed here. It's true, this isn't a debate, but it ain't posted in the debate section now is it? Exactly. It's an important subject, the Roz going over someone else as he always does and people are very free to post their cheers or their boos.

Because it is on a separate matter...? The other was a poll regarding immigration and the Trump meme. This one is about merit based immigration. As for debate... I didn't just drop a link and leave it. I targeted some points and I think it is quite clear. People are free to agree or disagree as they like. Also the rules state, This is for discussion on all sort of things. I posted a matter of discussion and given my own piece, allowing others to chime in as they wish.

You know how black men who don't go along with the usual lefty nonsense are called Uncle Toms for example? Sort of like that. East Asians are highly educated, work hard, so on, so they're basically white people... because apparently those are "white traits" (funny how these people can sound exactly like the likes of Richard Spencer isn't it?). So says the priests of progressiveness. Race is a social construct and so all the bad people can be classed as those nasty white people.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/19/points-based-immigration-racism Hello fellow white people, be it physically or in spirit. As we know, based off the many threads posted on here, the SJW/Progressive crowd are a very racist group among many other disgusting things. However taking down such extreme and obviously wrong people is pretty easy, funny, but it can distract us from the more dangerous group, the one that is tasked with herding in those mentioned crazies and pushing some of their wants in as reasonable manner as it can be. Now this relates to the Democrat meme about Trump the previous thread was about. That being that a perfectly logical and understand system that doesn't discriminate based off race is in fact, totally a racist plot of some sort. Oh those nasty white supremacists, what with their system that benefits East Asians at twice the rate of Europeans. However as we know, East Asians are basically white people so it makes perfect sense based off that. Now you're writing this piece, you got to end it strong, with a shot fired at those nasty Nazi scum. Got to paint them with the racist brush. However as we can see from the article, this writer, a so called teacher has made a horrible mistake with his final statement. Instead of shooting his shot in the direction of those mean ol' white cis-male scum, he shoots it down into his foot. Perhaps with him being a white cis-male himself his very smart gun got confused and backfired as a result. ^ Where by his own words the first shots to remake the ethnic composition of American society were shot. 1965, by the other side. What do you folks think on this matter?

A while back the Roz challenged the people on here suffering from the loudest case of Trump derangement syndrome to back up their words and take on the Roz. Now the likes of @ComradeMilton, who professed that Assad would be defeated and the Moderates of Democracy (Headchoppers) would win, cowardly ran away even going so far as to hide behind his alliance and trying to blame them for why he couldn't take part (this was lies, however BK seemed to have no issue with being thrown under the bus by Milton so oh well). @Caecus however was different, he wasn't going to let that mean Roz keep talking his nonsense. How dare the Roz question the integrity of the FNN (Fake News Network) and their talk of Trump going quickly. The Russians under American beds were going to be revealed and the Communist agent Trump would be removed from power. As we can see comrades, that did not happen so now like Rahl who was deported a bit over a year ago he must go too. Remember folks. The Roz is most sagacious and a luminary of knowledge. Believe the Roz's words because the odds are very high, believe me, bigly, that the Roz is correct.

Trump is sitting pretty with this. Their recent lies about him that to most people comes off simply as the simple truth haven't helped either. Simple fact is that those 800,000 people are not affected by the wall so why not agree to the wall for their sake? Because the Democrats don't really care about that 800,000, they're far more interested in the many more people that the wall does affect.

And which Native American state did they immigrate to? Rome had a lot of barbarian groups and such here and there, means nothing. What you are saying about the Manchus you could say about the likes of the Khitai or whatever. China had vassal and tributary states all around them, China was a total powerhouse after all. Those states had their nobility take the culture of China often enough as it was so advanced, heck the tribes in the north even getting family names was due to a cultural concept they got from the Chinese. You're only really making a point for me though at the end of the day. The lower class of barbarian, you know, the 99% didn't become Chinese so when it came time to start trouble, they did so. Now previously China never had trouble of course, even cut off regional warlords like Gongsun Zan could keep them in line while in a state of total war with his rival Yuan Shao. However eventually they allowed more and more of those barbarians to settle. China's army was cut down in size... the Jin Empire clashed in civil war with itself... no shocker then when the Barbarians attacked they found a people perfectly onside to taking Jin down. Immigration is good, but without integration it will always end badly. Simple as that. Hehehe... really? You do not seem aware that such a statement you're making, that slavery was some form of immigration is considered deeply offensive and wrong on the left. The African pop were brought in, like with the rest of the pop coming in at the time and over the years to fill up the land yes. However integration was obviously not as much of a thing as with the rest of the groups so even in the modern day they exist as a blundered integrated group, that isn't quite there and is a sad state of affairs. Meanwhile those other groups, whichever ones you want to mention from Europe have blended into the collective. I think it speaks volumes you really are trying this slave == immigrant thing. There is a reason people say people such as yourself just want immigrants to pick the cotton if you will. We get it mate, the black folk no longer quite serve the purpose so you want Hispanics, sorry, people reject that. Also there is no need to worry about devious Norwegians infiltrating the country and turning it into Communist land. You see, and this may shock you, but when people immigrate and then integrate, if they don't take the politics of the country then their children will. These children will be Americans, likely well off, white (so despised by the Democrats and their supporters), and so will more than likely be Republicans.

Those were invasions. Not immigration. There is no need to talk about the positives of immigration with some grand backdrop. Most people, some further back then others, had a immigrant who was their ancestor who came over to wherever they are, integrated, and were absorbed fully into the collective. Immigration allowed these groups to flourish in number, wealth (as based on the circumstance and to a point, more people equals more wealth), technology, so on. Many of those people go on to rightly be the biggest opponents of a system that if it had been in place for their ancestors in the past... would have meant a very different life for them. Wilders, Trump, guys like that are noted for the roots that came from elsewhere.

Not addressing the "no call out" rule.

Immigration is a positive. It has simply been ran badly by the globalist types yes who if on the left do it with the aim of rubbing our noses in "diversity" to reference the likes of New Labour, and of cold hard profit (for the richest) if on the right. Even then they can point to some iffy positives, but the future social cost will be astronomical.

What you haven't talked about and Epi mentions is the social damage that one of these groups inflicts and the other largely does not (I'm sure you can point out some exceptions). Some may hear that and get in a tizzy thinking a race thing, but nah. The harshest critics of say bad black immigrants (in many places they are "refugees") is other black immigrants who obey the law, came in legally, so on. In places where Pakistanis (who are Indian) cause problems it'll be Indians who hit them hardest. In a more logical and sane world we can have people from everywhere and everything will be dandy (isn't actually all that difficult, they used to do it fine). However as we know currently they are incapable of filtering people ("refugees" from Somalia, Sudan, and such places? Groups with track records of massive crime wherever they go? What?) adequately so if you had to choose between one or the other, which would it be? As for your talk of competition I would... disagree. First off places like Europe includes the likes of Spain for example which are hardly brimming with jobs for it's people hence why you get many southern European people moving north and such. It ain't all millionaire bankers in Europe and East Asia.