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Yeah! I mean where is the salt thrown at t$ for being friends with OO? As this topic clearly illustrates we are the true evil masterminds behind EVERYTHING BTW I can't be the only one to have noticed that he said "Twelve years, four members, five fights, and five wins." in the op

All my messages are a mess of broken encoding, how is that better? Or are you saying that future messages will be better?

I dunno, I kinda liked it, though the imagery for the spying could have been better, in my opinion.

So uhm, since there is a large war again and this would still be a very neat feature I'm gonna bump it...

It probably comes from me having played that other game for many years and remembering fondly back in the day when people actually cared about the reasons used for war and would discuss page after page after page about whether it was just or unjust. Not necessarily saying it is better since it can put you in the other ditch where you get paralyzed by the need for a "proper" CB, but I do believe that at least trying to explain ones rationale is better than just going out and doing it

Yes, your point being? To my knowledge more alliances than just Rose declared wars at or around the same time, yet only Rose and HBE posted topics...

It is that I genuinely believe that it is detrimental to the game when people declare wars without as much as posting a topic about it. It isn't some political line or anything of the sorts. It is a genuine belief that it makes the game poorer.

My point is that even if our reason for war merely was that we felt it was advantageous for us to declare war at that time, we at least posted a topic giving people the opportunity to react and to question and to discuss the action, rather than just staying silent, like so many have done this time around. And if that is your reason "because we wanted to", then more power to ya, but I still feel a war deserves a public declaration to give the community a place to react to it and discuss it. Call me old fashion, but that's how I was brought up

Uh uh I can play that game too! These wars shows that OO-sphere and Syndisphere needs to continue to work together to protect ourselves from the aggression coming from the ParaCovenant sphere. That does not mean that we are one sphere, merely that we work together. Co-ordination between two spheres does not mean that they are one and the same. EDIT: Missed a word

No apparently you don't need any reason what so ever to go to war. You just sorta randomly do it out of the blue...

How so? A controversial reason for war gives people something to talk about. It gives people something to react to. Silence is just that, silence...

Yes, depriving the community of the activity that is usually part of declarations of war by not posting any or half assing them is really cool...

It appears the other side feel that they are above common courtesies such as CBs or for most of them even DoWs...

Still better than Rose's DoW

But this time they've actually formally announced that they're defending you, meaning that, at least in my opinion, they'll face the same backlash as any other alliance failing to live up to a treaty if you're attacked and they don't protect you...

What? Don't you have all BK's treaties hanging on your walls?! THAT'S TREASON!

I'm not trying to tell you what paperless means and I'm sorry if it came off that way. I am just genuinely trying to understand what you see the difference being

So what would you say is the difference between announcing your agreements and...announcing your agreement, which is basically what a treaty is?

Nothing is as pathetic as FSA. Trust me, I was a member there at one point

I'm pretty sure the Sparta-VE and the Sparta-Alpha treaties have been gone for a while

Yeah, but it's the only name with a heart, sooooo

I'm gonna have to disagree. It isn't that they all need to declare on the same night, it's that they need to learn to coordinate and be active enough to pull off a blitz that doesn't completely fail. Their problem is that even when they're blitzing, our side has consistently been better prepared for their blitz than they have themselves. When they run a blitz with 10 people and we have 50 sitting and waiting for them then it should come as no surprise that their blitz fails. I think it might be a matter of mindset. If you expect 3/4 of your alliance to not be there then they won't, but if you expect everyone to be there, then you might get disappointed, but you'll still have a better turnout...

"My condolences", "you deserve each other" and all that

o/ Peace Thanks for the fight Sparta. Hope that next time we'll meet under better circumstances

Sorry for the lack of updates, but things have gotten kinda boring, so meh. Anyways here's a graph: As you can tell over the past few days a clear trend has emerged of the BK side slowly gaining score while the UPN side continues dropping, though we have begun seeing some leveling out as some alliances reach a point where they don't really have much left to lose. Oh and just so no one mentions it, yes I am aware that Rose left, but I can't really be assed to keep track of who is leaving so they're staying in the stats unless someone a) gives me a list of who leaves and when and gives me a good idea of how to represent someone leaving without making it look like giant losses (well you could argue that an alliance leaving is a loss to the side, but whatever). Anyways Rose leaving means that they didn't get to fulfill their dream of losing 50% of their score. Both Fark and NAC however have reached that monumental milestone, while NPO remains at the head of the pack with an impressive 60% score loss. On the BK side people are rushing in the other direction with both BK and tC getting below the 0, i.e. we have both actually gained score as of yesterday. A couple of other accomplishments worth mentioning is that there is now only 1 alliance that has lost more than 20% of its score on the BK side, while all (but Alpha, but they don't count because of their prior war with t$) have lost more than 30% on the UPN side.