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  1. How dreadfully simplistic. Politics never occurs in a vacuum. Do you not factor other spheres' power into the viability of your current or prospective position? That does not equal "OMG ITS ALL ABOUT XYZ" (although tbf. Where WANA has to make a calculation a variety of factors and take a more balanced stance, my retirement permits me the liberty to tell you that HW as an entity is incredibly restrictive to the political meta due to the sheer unassailability of its tiering by any one single grouping).
  2. Why are you bemoaning tS and not hw for being a catalyst in the first place?
  3. @Buorhann Mark my words fool. The next time you send your pathetic henchmen to hit me, I am diving deep into TCW and @Sphinx. That's not a threat. That's a promise. Don't mess with Tjest.
  4. I see you've finally had enough. I hope you've learned not to mess with me again.
  5. See! Ronny is trying to strangle the game with his locked down top tier! (Happy to oblige hehe)
  6. If GOB are oldschool BK levels of pain to deal with during the peace process, I will continue to in-game hate them *and* yell at them.
  7. C heap cardboard ripoff of glorious tjest art, led by pretender with a pinky toe of workmaster fragglesans charisma declares on huggers.
  8. I have a radical idea to make things better! Be interesting. One of the things I harped on since the onset of the decline of forum posting, is the necessity for flavor. that is to say: - Take on a persona and disconnect your OOC from that persona to some degree. This both helps solidify the IC-OOC divide (which is needed to reduce toxicity) and it allows for the creation of drama and narratives. - Take (political) risks and have an actual agenda *at all times*. Having an agenda is not bad: Just be consistent and clear with it (unless you are roleplaying something that isn't, but that does mean you deal with more adversity in other forms. It can be fun, like a *game*. - Don't all try to play the hurr durr honorable good guy. Be righteous. Be self serving. Be egotistic. Be bullheaded or any other controversial characteristic you can think of. *that* is how you create narratives. - Your alliance culture is 90% chance cookie cutter. That makes you flavorless and boring. Go build an actual culture. Mold it. Alliance variety drives the game's flavor. - Don't base everything you do on who you like OOC. I've been signed to every rival i've had at one point or another and most of my rivals have been allies eventually. Come to think of it, only UPN does not make that list. !@#$ you UPN. - post actually interesting stuff. Hurr durring about needing more WoTs is a good start. I applaud you. Now go actually be interesting in game-related things.
  9. Why don't you split up that humegatron whale tier and fight yourself instead of bothering us with your whalegasms, old man.
  10. Whoah whoah whoah! That man is my long gone friend Adam!? That moustache had me!!!!!
  11. Hope you're well! Unfortunately your response is not going to invite much beyond resistance or escalation. I will choose to focus on the more civil responses in this thread.
  12. Hi Mayor, It's unfortunate that you pick BigBro's (half)trollpost to repeat a few cookie-cutter grievances which frankly could well apply to 90% of alliances in the game across multiple eras. What you've just described is the long-proven standard of political browser sims such as this one. Even if I were to take your post seriously, it quickly boils down to "Damned if we do, damned if we don't". Do you happen to have any actionable grievances with a degree of validity that we should look at? If not, we will leave it at this and focus on the complaints we've gotten from others. P.s. given your earlier krampus-related behavior, I urge you to respond more constructively, or not at all. Thanks for the feedback. I'll reach out on a personal level to get a better understanding on where you believe that fine line exists if you don't mind.
  13. Aye. I think one of the key takeaways of the critiques t$ receives here is for us to reflect on our playstyle in a way that maintains the ideological (core) facets of t$ that add flavour to the game, while also considering behaviorisms that may have escalated for the worse. I haven't been fully read up on recent memory, but would it be a safe assumption that if on a gov-level, we decouple gripes surrounding our communication style from gripes surrounding our political style,we'd be casting a big enough net to address the most pressing criticisms levied at t$? Sidenote- I speak for Partisan and not t$, although t$ gov naturally reads this thread.
  14. I agree with that. Playing around that line myself quite often, it's easy for things to progress south. Even so, as a community I would prefer seeing self regulation in the form of defining that line through IC (roleplay) means, rather than shirking away from it entirely and denouncing anything remotely controversial. My initial point wias not that you prefer OOC outrage- it was that I haven't seen many viable alternatives to IC drama, even if IC drama is a fine line. The alternatives I've seen (as noted above) have not been pretty. If I am to make a choice, i'd still choose my (and/or syndi's) approach to the game. With regards to hostility or alienation, I do think tS and a good few in Orbis are at odds due to animosity which has developed since NPOLT. Having been t$' leader during that period and having seen the internal dynamics of t$, I know where t$' hostility stems from. I also do think I hear the gripes some of you voiced here with regards to said hostility. It's a bit circular as one reinforces the other. With regards to t$' historical play: I do agree that our style was the norm for a long period (even if we were not necessarily the ones to introduce it. We did adopt it and became adept at it. The norms have now changed and yes, t$ is resistant to those norms, both due to the aforementioned alienation, and because we genuinely don't understand the appeal. If I were to pinpoint a few: - Discord diplomacy vs forum discourse - Coalitions of convenience vs treaty warfare (or bloc warfare) - The "Fight for fun" mentality vs political pragmatism - An OOC-centric view vs an IC-centric view and so on, and so forth. I can't say I take all posts in this thread seriously. Some of them (like yours), I do, because I know you to be a consistent actor with a more IC focus. There are also a good few in this thread who are currently eggin WANA and/or t$ when their history is ridden with OOC-related incidents and/or contradictory behavior that goes against the fundamental logic behind their qualms with t$. Those responses are yielding hostile t$ responses. That's something i'd like to differentiate with perhaps disproportionally hostile responses to genuinely intended criticisms. Certainly, from its position, t$ may be guilty of those. But I doubt it's at the scale or as generizable a it appears to be from this thread.
  15. You're correct as to one source of the disconnect between ts and the community at large. The aftermath of npolt alienated ts strongly, and subsequent events reinforced that over time. Another source you touch on imo is philosophy and style. I can't pretend I'm not confused at your preference of non-ic outrage when the only 2 alternatives I've seen over the years have been some pretty nasty ooc stuff, or boredom
  16. Don't bash my shoddily mobile typed response to you friend.
  17. If you stopped being a big unstoppable hyper whale force with constricting tendencies I might consider not hitting you. Just saying
  18. If I am understanding you correctly, you seek for ts to take the politics, the vigor and the flavor out of its demeanor. To do so, across the game,would leave an empty husk of ooc meta arguments, fragmented drama about irl politics and general hattery. The void left in the wake of the departure of roleplay and IC drama invites something altogether dumber. Darker. Boring. Is this truly what you wish Orbis?
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