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What ODOO thinks is going on behind the scenes: What is actually going on behind the scenes:

You seem to be forgetting I was leading Paradise at the time. You are correct that you weren't plotting to hit Singularity at that point, because it didn't exist, but it's a moot point, you did plan to hit Singularities predecessor, you DID hit Singularity ultimately, when it merged, on the back of that plan. There was even a retroactive attempt to use the formation of Singularity and the numbers it provided to Florida, as a justification, completely ignoring the fact you were more than willing to hit Florida, with TKR/Grumpy AND CATA. I was establishing why I don't trust you by pointing to an example of when I worked with you in a coalition, and then you immediately plotted to target the people you worked with in that same coalition. You can say it was all about Rose all you like, but Rose didn't even front the coalition against Fortuna, nor the formation of Florida, I have as much of a basis to make that claim as Rose does, and given my role in the formation of that coalition, more so I'd say. And considering you just conceded that Rose has a leg to stand on, it's clear you aren't denying you chose to target us immediately after the war ended. I wasn't criticizing your desire to make an arrangement that benefited you. I was directly responding to the claim you "rescued us" and that we should be "grateful." You made a self interested decision to enter. We made overtures towards you before the war ever started, to which you guys turned down. That's within your rights, but the attempt to spin the events of last war as a "rescue" of a group of alliances who had already lost all their infra and been fighting that specific conflict for 2 months is laughable. We COULD have gone through with what by all accounts would have been long nap, sat out of the next cycle, leaving you guys to fend for yourselves. (Which, amusingly, is what happened here.), but instead we chose to fight longer in order to avoid a potential nap cycle being placed on all parties. I'm going to assume this is because you only became leader after the war, and so your involvement was limited. There was definitely discussion and counter measures put into place for the one glaring possibility you are alluding. And you are correct, panicked decision making did take place, but it wasn't ours. We had very specific expectations that were set, and when the chips were down, those expectations were not met by the parties on your side of the coalition. We didn't panic, we immediately responded, and urged others to follow through on the commitments they had made, but out of fear, they chose not to. So no, I don't concede that at all. My claim, from the beginning, is that there was an attempt, by Morf, to leave us behind. That is what he supported, that is what he wanted. And that is why he brought the deal only to Rose first, and pitched it that way. Had Rose agreed to it then, that's what would have happened. You say he brought the offer to Rose first, what you are omitting, is he brought the offer that included leaving Singularity/TFP in the war alone, to Rose first, and advocated for it. And he did a lot more advocating for it from what I have seen. This I find a little ridiculous. Your only grievance from us is that as you say, is malicious rumors. But those "malicious" rumors, are just the same accusations that I have made here. Essentially, you are mad that we are mad at you. You can call what I've said lies and smears, but when things started to get heated here, I approached you and offered to settle this privately. I haven't yet dropped any of the information on here to make my points, because ultimately, the only audience here that I've been directing this is you and your government. So here is my question, Do you want me to start dropping logs? Because being called a liar for the claims I've been making is, to me, a direct call out. And the only way I can defend myself here is to start doing so. I am happy to start responding, with logs, starting with every post Canbec has made, and then you, and then the random ass members of TKR and their various hot takes, if that is where we feel this needs to go. Or, we can deal with it privately, and you stop trying to argue points in public that aren't true.

You know what’s ironic, everyone who was defending and forced the 1 day war nap is now trying to shoot at this nap which was both caused by the same group of people. Sketchy basically explained everything that happened, if you guys had gotten your way you wouldn’t be complaining right now. Idk why you guys are even trying to shift blame on someone else after all that backroom talk it’s best everyone who was involved shut up because if logs starts coming out everyone will see what’s up and how this nap unfolded into where we are at right now.

We’ve not engaged much partially because we’ve been busy, but also because with much of this, we have already made our stance on what happened in the lead up to this NAP clear in Roberts’ post here: We aren’t interested in repeating them ad nauseam, and we have been reaching out privately to talk to folks as well. That said, there are a few points made here we wish to clarify on publicly. This particular claim makes very little sense to me. Singularity didn’t even exist when the Fortuna war ended, and at that point, we were still allied to one of the alliances that would go on to form Singularity. So no, we weren’t immediately plotting against you. If Rose instead wanted to make that claim, they might have a leg to stand on. However, that decision to fight them was based on our understanding they were blaming us for the coalition against Fortuna, which we made clear in our CB/discussions with them following that war, even if they disagreed with our conclusions. Did we try to make an arrangement that was as much to our advantage as to the advantage of the other members of the coalition? Of course we did. As did you, as does any alliance. But blaming everything that went wrong in that war on TKR shows a lack of accountability for your own role in how that war played out. Everyone involved contributed to the breakdown of that war. Best I can tell, there was at least one glaring possibility that was missed and/or not adequately planned for during war prep, which when happened, led to panicked decision making, a breakdown of communications, and a war that went down quickly in flames. We all had a hand in that. To clarify your misconception here, the moment the offer was made to us, we took it to the coalition. There was no separate deal. Despite your perception that you were going to be left behind, that was never a reality nor a real possibility. Although, by your own words, you were doing just fine and didn't need our help, we can agree that had that been a legitimate thing we were trying to do, it would have been bad. Fortunately, that wasn't the case. We assume this misinterpretation of our intent comes from the fact we first took the offer to Rose to gauge their interest, since they had the most to lose from continuing the war and we were willing to continue fighting if they were. Our only mistake during that part of things was to not push for a public peace server, considering how quickly rumors began circulating following the end of the war and again, how quickly responsibility for that entire war was shoved onto us. I could likewise say the same, considering every effort in collaboration with you for the past year results in malicious rumors and our name being smeared. While we don’t deny we’ve made mistakes and are fine taking ownership of them when we’ve actually done something wrong, there have been countless rumors about us of late that are clearly false and, whether intentionally or unintentionally, manufactured. It's easy to read between the lines and completely misinterpret statements when one is searching for ill intent. This is what we believe has been happening on your end. We're choosing to give you the benefit of the doubt here instead of assuming you're intentionally lying and smearing us. There is clearly some mutual mistrust between our alliances fueling this, and that's something we are willing to admit and work toward resolving. We’ve already started talking with your alliance privately and are happy to try and work this out if you're willing to as well. Same offer goes to Rose and Guardian, who I understand to have similar concerns as well.

We are all acutely aware.

PNW's 2024 motto just dropped

Why TKR so angry? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Lame as hell, in my personal opinion. #CrapOnTheNAP

As we continue to put focus on remedies using diplomacy, discussions have been had in private channels about extending the Orbis NAP and having peace between spheres. This has been agreed upon and involved parties are listed in length at the end of this article. This will be effective following immediately after the end of the current non-aggression pact from the One Day War ending on May 18th, 2024 12:00 AM Gametime (Standard Update) The agreed upon terms are as followed: A non-aggression period between the constituent alliances of all coalitions lasting August 18th, 2024 12:00 AM Gametime (Standard Update) during which as defined are: No wars on members No raids on members No mass ghosting to hit coalition members No shell alliance hits No spy attacks will be carried out against the other coalition’s members No hiring of mercenaries or raiders to hit the opposing coalition signatories Signatories agree that an agreement of mutual defense supersedes non-aggression. Henceforth, if there is found to be documented and proven aggression by any signatories, diplomacy should be executed to resolve by way of peace, financial reparations, or war. Response by the defending party is at their discretion, based on severity. The terms of the NAP are considered void between the aggressive signatory or parties and the receiving signatory or parties - depending on violation, only upon official statement given publicly. If no statement of voiding is given publicly, with proof, then the NAP as outlined prior will continue to be enforced. All extensions of alliances below are automatically included in the NAP, named or otherwise. RoseGuard: Rose Guardian Arkham Asylum Oblivion Valinor Orchid Pika Party Atlas Technologies Chocolate Castle Blackwater Respublica Romana WELP: Eclipse Weaponized Assault Penguins Weebunism Knights Templar Legion of Dawn The Commonwealth Order of Dawn Farkistan Seven Star Magister Mortalis Hand of Fate Raiden INC Fumo Penguin Party Antarctic Pirates Strickland Propane Shuba10KM Quasars Terminus Est CIS: Singularity The Fighting Pacifists The Golden Horde Camelot Dark Brotherhood The High Table Antarctica Alliance SAIL Loves Singularity Pika Party Freehold of the Wolves Off-Shore Sylvanoras Whisper Scipio Albarrio Gamblers Anonymous The Witcher Order Orbis Peace Organization Black Sheep Nations of Neutrality The Key Valorian Order Brotherhood Family Unforgiven Legion Panem The Armed Peacekeepers Akatsuki Gallowglass SAIL: The Syndicate Event Horizon The Legion Church of Atom Man I Love Frogs Requiem The Enterprise Pokimans The Firm Aurora Carthago Goon Squad Federated States of Orbis Vault-Tec Royal Alba Charter Company Imperium of Man Planet Fitness City Skylines 2 The Hive Chowder Bangers World Task Force

Waiting for tkr to call bs so logs can drop 🍿🍿🍿

I think i can see where this is going NAP -> Sleep -> Coma -> Eternal rest

1. When this tumour reached stage 2.

“I was TKR high gov for 2 years bro” High Five man!

Your first mistake was thinking anyone is as important as Sketchy.

If someone writes a program for me that generates it all at the tap of a button, will update the program on my every whim, and also let me harvest all the clout of posting it - you've got yourselves a deal. 😌 I still have nightmares of doing everything manually for much of the APR's existence

Bro you a regular member you don't know shit lmfao Go sit in a corner with Who Me and play some baseball

"Rescued" ODOO set terms and conditions on us for their entry that were undoubtedly beneficial to themselves. Their entry was self interest, a prid quo pro. By that point in the war, we had already taken all the damage we were going to take. Peace negotiations with SAIL and us would have taken place and been finished well before the extended war would have, had parties remained in the coalition instead of peacing out. We could have taken a long NAP and sat and allowed for things to play out without us. It would have been more beneficial for us to do so. We opted to make a deal that would prolong the conflict we had already been fighting for 2 months (preceding 2 months of fighting others) in order to make a move that would benefit all parties, That would have committed us to at least 5 months of straight war. The assertion that we were rescued from anything is laughable. I'm not going to expand on what your terms were, despite the various wild claims being made here, but the fact is, you guys had a deal on the table that worked for you, and that is why you helped. And then you walked away from the deal. And very abruptly. We all know how much of a mess that was. As far as us being "angry" goes, I hadn't really intended to get involved in this discussion much. But certain claims were made here that required addressing, and I think it's interesting you guys have chosen to single us out, given everyone else who signed onto the nap, including alliances you claim to have good relations with, and, all in all, we owe you the least here besides perhaps Eclipse. TKR immediately planned to attack us as soon as the Fortuna war in which we fought together was over. And they did, bringing in Syndicate. That put us under a NAP cycle, the same one that prompted their entry into our war later on. TKR made a deal that, as I said earlier, was beneficial to them, in order to bring themselves in, and then when things got too hairy for them, struck a different deal behind our backs, and attempted to exclude us from the process, which would have inevitably left us in the same war they are purported to have rescued us from lmfao. These are all claims I can easily support with evidence, if I have to. Despite all this, we have not gone after or targeted you directly, this entire time. We could have easily sought revenge on TKR/ODOO for your previous attacks on us, we could have easily sought to align with people attempting to hit you this cycle, and, with this nap in place, we could easily align with the current coalition against you. Instead, we have, more than once, attempted to work with you, and find mutual common ground and cut deals with you that would work to our mutual benefit. But past behaviour is a pretty good indicator for future behaviour, and TKR has proven time and time again, that collaboration with you ends poorly for us. Perhaps you'd prefer me to sit alongside you, whisper sweet nothings in your ear, and pretend like I wasn't one of the alliances who signed onto the NAP? Given who you guys have chosen as the target of your ire here, it feels to me that you'd rather hear comfortable lies than brutal honesty.

Antarctica is a fun AA to casually raid.

Better late than never I suppose.

Ignore them? I didn't ignore them. I dismissed them. They're bad points.