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So basically you’re doing a temporary MDP to defend yourself against Clock? Isn’t this what MINC and Oasis did and got s*** on for it?

Lmao I was like wait a minute surely someone senses some irony

In the Midst of War, the Roman Empire stood, having just come out of Battle in Britannia, still standing strong and resolute, but without an enemy to fight yet itching for a fight, when a Roman City was suddenly and unexpectedly attacked and Raided by the barbarians from Carthage, seeking to bring Rome to its knees, prompting a swift Military response from Rome, and thus kicking off the 2nd Punic War. TL:DR Rome Recognizes Hostilities with The Back Rooms

"The Peace in our Times Agreement" Preamble: In the interest of peace and mutual understanding, the two parties of Hollywood and Celestial enter into this agreement. Recognizing that at this time there is no Casus Belli between the two parties and as such in an effort to avoid a needless and causeless war, the two parties agree to enter into a mutual agreement of demilitarization. Article 1: The two parties, effective of the update of today, May 25th, in game time will demilitarize to the following MMR: 1/3/5/0 with the option for voluntary but not required 1 drydock per city based on the individual alliance's standard peacetime MMR. Article 2: Nations below c10 whose primary income source is raiding will not be affected by the limit of barracks in the standard MMR of this agreement and will be allowed a MMR of 5/3/5/0 or 5/3/5/1. Article 3: During this period of demilitarization in the face of the current ongoing global conflict, the parties pledge to come to the aid of the other if one party comes under the attack of a sphere that is already militarized. Article 4: This agreement will expire once the current spheres already engaged in hostility have rebuilt and returned to a standard peacetime MMR. Signed, Hollywood Sphere Leadership Celestial Sphere Leadership

Lmao what kind of bullshit is this?

I, Ryker Wolf officially step down as leader of the GDC in till further notice. I declare that my heir, Owen Brilt will assume my position while I am gone. I am also leaving the GDC for bigger alliances to be able learn from them to be able to better lead the GDC. This is effective Immediately.

worst fa move 2022?

Vroom vroom vroom, bye bye back rooms

You signed a temporary MDP. How brave and beautiful you two are...

You got Tyrion doing your FA? on a :serious: note, if someone militarizes to counter a pirate, it'll be a violation of these terms, right? asking for a friend.

Interesting decision, every sphere, we all know what to do now.

They'll never see us coming if we cross the alps!

We all know there are issues with the way politics are at the moment. There have been multiple suggestions on how to fix this, from a return to bipolarity, a stronger move to minispheres, and even making a broad move to democracy for alliances. I admit, I was not here for NPO’s Last Time, so I don’t have the full experience of the nine months of war and the struggle that went on during that time. However, the game needs to move past NPOLT. Not making moves because you don’t want to be related to NPO, or because you’re scared of being linked to IQ; this is part of the issue. Being afraid to be seen as an aggressor, wanting to play the victim and cry foul, is an issue for much of the game. Even certain spheres who’ve been fairly aggressive in the political arena still cry foul over “bad” CBs. One thing that’s been really ironic to watch is all the popularity behind the idea of minispheres. So many people are supportive of the idea of really small spheres, and yet we’ve arguably been taking numerous steps back from that direction. There are alliance leaders who publicly say they’re for minispheres, and yet they won’t work towards them. I understand the idea behind this; “we’re not going to shrink down unless they shrink down.” And yet, unless someone takes that first step, can we ever get to minispheres? And, as mentioned later in this post, are minispheres even possible without decision-makers being willing to involve micros? Democracy is a suggestion that is both problematic and a great idea at the same time. Part of the reason why this has been suggested (at least, part of the reason I’ve seen) is to open up alliances to fresh ideas and fresh government members. It could facilitate minispheres, facilitate new wars, new alliances, and even new treaties and spheres. At the same time, democracy is a bad idea, because, well, duh? Many members don’t pay enough attention to understand what the best policies for them are. They may not really understand what candidates are the best option for them. Limits on who can vote, who can run, etc. may work to resolve this, but they will also limit what ideas and individuals can actually lead an alliance. That ultimately defeats part of the purpose of having democracy in the first place. Something that has been one of the most irritating statements I’ve seen in recent times is the statement that “we need a villain.” Yes, we could use a villain. But that’s not really the issue. There are two major issues. The first was listed above - people, and some decision-makers in particular, are scared of being aggressive. They don’t want to be seen as the villain or the bad guy in any situation. That comes with drawbacks - less interesting CBs, less interesting politics, etc. The second, and more prominent issue, is that this game despises villains. In order to survive as a villain, you have to either be nearly unkillable. That narrows who a villain can be to two groups - pirates, or a mega-sphere. NPO (and their allies) were, from my understanding, able to stay a villain and stay un-wiped because of sheer size. They were competent enough and large enough to fight wars as villains, and they had a chance to win. A pirate alliance could be a villain, because we’ve seen pirate alliances survive wars (long wars, wars where they are desperately outnumbered, and more). But anyone else aspiring to be a villain gets utterly crapped on by the game. A prime example many people may remember is Lord Alan of Black Skies. He wasn’t afraid to play the villain and cut garbage out of the equation; this ultimately led to him being rolled, mocked, and then issued irl death threats. A much older example would be Jayce, of the Assyrian Empire, who tried to form a bloc with some micros and was basically doxxed out of the game. These are players labeled “villains” because their points of view differ from the norm. Even actual villains, like SpAnKy, are abused to a rather ridiculous extent. SpAnKy absolutely causes chaos and deserves some of the things that fly his way, but the game as a whole trend towards hating on him (and people like him), and discrediting what he does. This is one of the biggest issues with current politics. We all agree the current mold is bad. We all agree it needs to be broken. And then we destroy those who dare to break the trend. Everyone can agree on the need for some fresh blood, yet we beat the crap out of micros and people with new ideas. And then we refuse to allow them any chance at a possible redemption. That is why we’re stuck with what we have - because we take down everything else that is proposed. If y’all actually want minispheres, fresh ideas and leaders, and overall, spicier politics, then as a community we need to tone down the bashing of people who don’t follow the trend. Otherwise, all the potential good ideas out there that could really revitalize our politics will be shot down with the bad ones.

Is this an appropriate time to be butthurt? Asking for a friend

End of an era. 😔

A devastating counter attack by Commonwealth

PEOPLE OF ORBIS WE,,, THE LEADERSHIP OF NEXSUCKS,,, DECLARE OUR PREEMPTIVE NEUTRALITY IN ANY UPCOMING CONFLICT ANY MILITARY WE BUILD IS PURELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF STATPADDING ON MICROS HERE AT NEXSUCKS,,, WE PRIDE OURSELVES FOR OUR ABILITY TO ACCOMPLISH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OUR WAR “PERFORMANCE” SPEAKS FOR ITSELF OUR BLOCK HAS A PLETHORA OF AMAZING TOOLS WE HAVE PREMIER ACCESS TO ONE OF THE BEST BANKS ALONG WITH SOME OUTSTANDING ALLIES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL, DON’T FORGET OUR TOTALLY UNBIASED NEWS SERVER SO COME ON DOWN,,, AND REMEMBER THE NEXSUCKS MOTTO TL;DR Eclipse declares war on Nexsucks and the rest of The Back Room for offending us with their tomfoolery

To the Orbis, In seeing the gridlock of our orbis politics, horrible destruction of infrastructure, the potential hyper inflation of our market, and the destruction of our nations, I ask Clock and Backroom to deescalate their conflict and engage in peace dialogue. I also ask anyone who share my stance to sign your name to this document. ford/362739, Wholesome Exemplar of the Salon of the Wholesome People JustCallMeRick#3603, Wholesome Person of the Salon of the Wholesome people, High Officer of Military Affairs of United Armies Bariona Gador, Rosian of Rose Fine and Dandy, Wholesome Exemplar of the Salon of the Wholesome People, econ officer of United Armies note: all signers do not represent the stance of their respective alliance. Signers represent the stance of themselves. Titles are just to allow people know where people come form.

u wot I'm all for conditional treaties, but the fact that you just signed a DOUBLE BLOC WIDE CONDITIONAL MDP really just goes to show 1. There are two people dictating bloc politics while the other disengaged leaders let them dictate their foreign policy 2. HW and Ro$e don't care about the rest of the game and just care about their 6-9 month wars 3. Both care more about their pixels than allowing anything interesting to take place.

I was too slow to post this. Damn you Kev.

You guys don’t need to band together against the big bad Clock like this, what with all the advantages you have against us. Just believe in yourselves!

Going through them now, thank you

Good luck y'all for the glory of rome.

I'd chalk that up to BR handing the evidence for the CB over themselves on page 1...

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=390650 Here's my new nation if you want to make a judgement of some sorts. Also btw if you feel a post is terrible feel free to grow some, and just say so. You don't need any validation of city count.

Most aa's are what seems to be authoritative cookie cutter aa's that indoctrinate their members to their benefits. That would also include locking them in a grant/tax trap where it turns out supposed grants are really loans & low taxes are really medium to high-ish taxes. If aa's are able to make ppl into what benefits them the most throu enforcing restrictive & regulative terms while making it seem normal, then you are being brainwashed into conformity & obedience. Ppl want that due to a desire to rule ppl, be over others for their own conviction to be true above all, half the time anything more or less will be disregarded as well assumed as destructive argument against the ruling regime further looked at more n more disobedient/non-conforming the more one questions another. If one cannot gain knowledge throu self curiosity, propel their own future throu mainly their own drive, while still being able to work w/ each other on a two way street aside willingly on minimally controlling n invasive policies, then one isnt playing the game, one is being used as another's pawn.

I propose Clock and Backrooms come together but only to form a joint hit squad on this guy

I thought this was the peace post for about half a second and was incredibly deeply confused.

Ok so your saying keep the war going for a month got it will do.

Some of us “retired leaders” deserve a break. A few of us put a lot of effort into this game.

Or just base your gov on Meritocracy instead of personal feelings. Problem is a lot of alliances don't have the people willing to do the jobs, such as MA or IA, and former leaders or retirees are forced into these roles to keep their alliance afloat. This doesn't help anyone in terms of development of their alliance and only forces them back into roles that they had long since wanted to part ways with. However I am not sure telling people to stay retired is a complete solution to the source of the problem. Obviously you have people like Nokia who return every other month that they quit the game but have you ever thought of the reasons for why? When TCM was a thing he often was forced to return for the same reasons I stated above. But does that mean that an alliance should not exist if it can't live without retired gov? That is for the people of these alliances to decide. "Democracy" may be the solution to irl problems, but in game, not so much. It's inefficient in the game and often the best Meritocracy will out perform the best Democracy. There are not many alliances in the game where Democracy is the best idea because they do not have enough people in the alliance to make it work. I know this is not directly correlated to the game but bare with me, "For the first time, Pew Research asked a question about who seeks out these offices and found that about 2% of Americans say they have ever run for federal, local, or state elected office." Now if you're willing to be so courteous, extrapolate that to a game or an alliance and you'll understand. Burnout is real and I have burned out several times playing this game and many times have had to will myself through it for the betterment of my alliance and the people I care for. I understand my post may not be answering all of the things you stated or may have gone off on some weird tangent, but try to look at it from their point of view. Obviously there will be those bad few and those exceptions(Adrienne).

Friend, a lesson in FA. You don’t ever say the silent part out loud. What type of box? You selling Series X’s? Not sure why our name is randomly coming up. Though I do appreciate getting to live so cheaply in the heads of randoms. Old soldiers never die, and they don’t fade away. I’ve literally never seen someone go into a thread and fumble the bag this hard.

It warms my heart to know after almost 2 years, my influence is still being felt. Even better to see that the art of leaking has become a national pastime for TCW, embraced by the high gov now and not just something the Prime Minister did late at night.

to be fair me and greene made better villain's than Alan without even trying

Unfortunately I'm at work so you only get what I made before hand at the moment. Rest assured I'll give you something more topical eventually

when will OWR stop mass vming please tell me I need to know.

For weeks and months now, certain parties within the Backroom have been positioning both themselves as well as other alliances and blocs to hit Clock. It is simply not within our nature to stand by idle while others plot how to hit us, and hence Cata and Clock had to take matters into our own hands. It is no secret that our relationship with some alliances within BR is less than ideal, such as Bourbon Street, but I was unaware that declining to upgrade someone undeserving warranted such a petty grudge. Or maybe I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it wasn’t a personal grudge. What would we call it then? Paranoia? Weeks ago, we began hearing about them approaching other blocs and either plotting to jointly hit Clock, or simply get other blocs to do their bidding for them. This was confirmed by none other than HW, who was one of the blocs that they approached. BR has approached other blocs spreading rumors, lies and threats in a jaded attempt to get Clock hit. When we began to hear that BR may have been planning some sort of offensive, and CTO and tCW milled up, we knew we had to move. And it is for this very reason that we had to bring the war to the Backroom. TL;DR: Clock Bloc declares war on the Backroom.

how am i supposed to properly judge a persons terrible post if i cant confirm that they have 5 cities and are like a month old?

FYI your nation link does not link to a current nation.

this could possibly be arranged.

I’m well aware of history. It’s just lame that people are taking potshots on a party the thread isn’t about.

there'll be another twenty before the war is done, don't worry

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