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The term originally referred to one player, @Oblige. I don’t know when it first entered in PW parlance, but it is clear that it carried over from Oblige’s time playing eRepublik. A TechCruch article from 2012 even cites Oblige: https://techcrunch.com/2012/12/16/conversations-with-whales-the-erepublik-2012-summit/ Relevant quote: Emphasis mine. For the longest time, I would have argued that defining who a whale was not dependent on a set number of cities. Rather, my definition was based on whether a person had an equal or greater number of cities than Oblige. If so, you were a whale. If not, you were not. Why? Oblige was the original whale, that’s why. Given that Oblige is no longer playing PW (as far as I know), I think that given that the average number of cities per nation is most likely increasing over time, that it’s useful to think of percentiles than a set number of cities. So say, if someone is at the 10-15% of number of cities they should be classified as a “whale.” If not, then no. Maybe that means that 33 cities makes one a whale in 2021. But in 2022 it may be 36 or something. Who knows? It’s a sliding scale than any set number 🐋

--- 8:17 PM The day had been pleasant, for a change. Work wasn't good, but it was better than usual. There were no particularly troublesome customers, and Jonathan had been unusually friendly. Maybe he was getting over whatever problem he had with you, and perhaps now you two could start to become friends for a change? After work, you met up with your friends at that new pizza place. You had been looking forward to this for weeks. It wasn't often that the four of you could meet up, thanks to everyone's school, work, and family obligations. The food was good, and you though the girl at the counter was eyeballing you some. So... the day was decent. It was a 6 out of 10, maybe 7 out of 10. The best way to top it off would be to enjoy some time on the internet. You change into more comfortable clothes, crack open a cold one (beer, soda, or water- your choice) and sit down at your computer. You enter your password and your computer fully whirs to life. You go to watch your favorite Twitch streamer, but stop before you can finish typing out the words into Google. Instead, you hold down backspace, and instead search for Politics and War. It's been a few days since you last logged in, and even longer since you were on Discord. Logging into the game, an interesting sight greets you. --- 8:29 PM The words 'utter failure' borrow into your head. As the adrenaline kicked in, you did all you could to fight back against your attackers; of which there are three of the bastards. However, the numbers were against you, and all you succeeded in doing was putting yourself into an even worse position. By the time you ran out of MAPs, the heaviness in your chest had fully set in. Your cities were being pummeled, two of your attackers had 'Air Superiority', and the third one had 'Ground Control'. You weren't fully sure what these terms meant, but you knew it was bad that they had those things and you didn't. Finally, some mechanism in your brain triggered, and the initial shock and panic had subsided. Rather than thrash around like a trapped animal, you bend over slightly, put your hand on your chin, and start thinking. You asked yourself a simple question. "How am I going to get out of this mess?" As you carefully scrolled your nation page for some hope - praying that all the numbers and statistics would hold some golden nugget of information - you find the answer. The answer, in fact, was so obvious that you were surprised you didn't think of it immediately beforehand. Your would ask your alliance for help. --- 8:42 PM Logging into Discord, you find 12 pings awaiting you. Most of them are @everyone or @here spam from trolls, two of them are @everyone pings from government, and 1 was a member of government thanking you for your taxes. Joining this alliance as a City 32 nation was a bit odd, but you've known the leader for a while as you've been Steam buddies with him for years (going back to your Counter-Strike days), and he promised you a voice in government if you agreed to 40/20 taxes (higher than the 20/10 the alliance runs for the rest). You felt good about helping the new, smaller players who joined the alliance, so you agreed. Of course, It didn't hurt to have some power too. You navigate past the Discord channels to find the member chat... passing up some archives, the public chats (including a NSFW chat you've been meaning to check out), and a room for the bots. Upon finally finding the member chat, you type out your plea. "hey im getting attacked. can i get some help??" Unfortunately, your message is lost in the sea of the member chat. The member chat is full of similar such requests, but also of some despair. A member of the alliance that you don't recognize, ForkofApple, voices his displeasure. "Guys I can't take this damage I think I'm gona quit." Your mind races. The entire member chat is full of similar such messages; of the collective of the alliance requesting help or voicing great displeasure. The heaviness in your chest returns. As the largest tax payer, you were promised by you leader some power in the community. You realize you have a duty to... try and do something to help. Clearly you should ask the 'Military Department' head for assistance. You send him a message on Discord, but he is offline. A quick look through Discord reveals that he hasn't said anything on Discord in over a week, and hasn't even logged into the game for over 3 days. That's a dead end. The chest heaviness is gone, but a general sense of dread fills the crevasses of your mind. You get another notification. You open it. Dope Dealer of Dope Land ordered a ground attack upon your nation of New New Canada. The attack was an immense triumph. Dope Dealer forces lost 7,672 soldiers and 127 tanks, while your defenders lost 28,102 soldiers and 1,284 tanks. You used 260 tons of munitions and 232.40 tons of gasoline defending the attack. The attack destroyed 229.01 infrastructure in the city of Newer Quebeccz. Dope Dealer stole $2,496,880.98 in the attack and destroyed 0 improvements. You swallow. Your drink from earlier is at room temperature, and is mostly untouched. --- 9:02 After pacing around your home some, you get on your computer and are pleasantly surprised to see a Discord message from your leader. Your leader, who you know simply as Disciple, sends you two short messages. "Hey man hows its going" "How much gas and ammo do you have?" You respond, but then stop. You check on your resources, and then respond. "im good except im getting screwed in my butt lol" "4000 gas and 2100 ammnition" Disciple doesn't respond to you for some time. You seen him try to coordinate a military response in the member chat, but his own messages are interrupted by people being uncooperative; claiming to either not want to fight, not having the cash/resource to fight, or simply in despair at how their military is mostly destroyed and the enemies are at max military. You check the alliance page, and a few minutes of discovery later, you find out that almost all 32 members have had their defense slots filled. Wait, 32? That's odd. You could've sworn it was 37 a few days ago. You search where you can for several minutes, and find out that within the past hour, 2 members have went into vacation mode, and 3 others have left. A page refresh reveals now 31 members- a 6th member has been kicked by Disciple himself. You exit out of the game and Discord. You need a break. This day was a 7 out of 10, now it's like a 3 out of 10. --- 10:49 You log back into the game, only to discover 3 more notifications. The last of your tanks were airstriked, and the last of your planes were spies away. Well.. almost anyways. Only a few hundred tanks remain, and only about a hundred planes. Tens of thousands of soldiers remain, but even you know that isn't worth much. You tried to watch some of your favorite shows to get your mind off of the game, but are unable to lay back and enjoy the media. An idea crosses your mind; why not ask our allies for help? You log back into Discord, and message Disciple. Asking about your idea. Disciple responds: "No silver knights and yorktown can't help. they've been hit too. we're just gonna have to fight as hard as we can and see where things are after round 1." Round 1? What does that mean? Actually, forget it. 1 round of whatever hell this is is already to much. Maybe if your allies could do unto your attackers what they've done to you, maybe it would be okay. However, with your alliance by itself, what does it matter? You check the alliance page. Now, 29 members. You don't care what happened to them. Another notification. This time, a ground battle. There goes all your tanks and most of your soldiers. You check on the members of your allies. Just like your alliance, most of their members have had most of their defense slots filled. Several times during the past two and a half hours, you've had your hopes crushed. Your attacks failed. Your alliance can't help. The head of military affairs is practically inactive. Your allies can't help. Your military is gone, and your alliance has lost a lot of its members already. Another notification. A spy op. An unknown nation has killed 22 of your spies in one go. You swear. You decide that enough is enough. The situation is intolerable. You leave a short rant in the member chat full of profanity. You navigate to the 'Edit Nation' page, then to the Vacation Mode page. You enter '14' into the box. You enter your password (the same you use for all other accounts in your personal life). You check both boxes, and then you click the big blue bottom. It's over. --- ??? Like a limb severed to save the body in times gone by, you emotionally detach from your nation the best you can. Over the next few days, your nation is ravaged. All your resources and cash are looted. Your military is 0'ed, and your average infrastructure level in each city reaches levels that they haven't been in years. You gain close to a week in beige time, but end up on grey. Perhaps you would've interacted with your nation had you not been in VM, but that is not the case. You inability to interact with your nation drains your interest, and you stop logging in. Your Discord usage also ceases. You log in once more after quite some time, only to see dozens and dozens of notifications. Your inactivity was rewarded by raiders pillaging what they could from the corpse of your nation- not unlike how scavenger birds eat up a dead deer once the coyotes have had their fill. Disciple unfriends you on Steam. Perhaps it was the not-so-nice things you said in your rant before you VM'ed. Whatever the case, your ties to your alliance mainly cease. Besides, who needs to be a part of such a shitty alliance that gets itself into such a shitty war anyways? You deserved better. How dare Disciple get you into that kind of situation anyways? He did you a favor by unfriending you. How could he reward your years of internet friendship like that? Your nation is beyond repair. To many holes in the ship. You think about starting over, but it would take years to get back to where you are now. And, just for what, for this to happen again? You don't delete your nation, but you cease logging in completely. You block emails from Politics and War, and soon you forget about the game. Eventually, the game itself puts you in VM, and then deletes you itself after a long time passes. Sometimes you think about the game, but you remember your feelings on that night- when the dumb bastards of some other alliance ganged up on you for no reason. When you were abandoned by your alliance, your leader, and your allies. You decide not to ever return- and you never do. What a stupid game. --- 🦍 ---

I'm guessing this is just a gut reaction to realizing a third of the alliance you lead is whales.

Well Wonder what I should put here For starters, how about I go out of my way to dedicate this forum post to the wonderful folks at Chocolate Castle who consentingly brought me down the path I've finished walking Personally I think there was no reason for me to do what I've decided, but thus here I am At least I can be confident saying I'm not leaving the same way Nokia is... It's probably obvious what this is about, and I'll cut to the chase I'm leaving I'm done No more bad micros No more defending myself against allegations spawned from the exact alliance who took it upon themselves to work their way up my list of most hated alliances Of course, no better way to go At least not in my opinion Golden Dawn is a mess I made it this way, no one else The members that remain, have the inconvenience of not knowing what a good alliance looks like After all, I took it upon myself to exploit Golden Dawn to it's furthest extent So, I shall now leave the mess I have created to the same fool who followed me through this game Don't quit Don't blame yourself Just find a real alliance One that isn't Golden Dawn That's not a request That's an order My final order Lastly, I think it's of note to mention why I quit Lets put it simply Chocolate Castle Now, lets not point fingers But Chocolate Castle helped me, and the rest of the game realize what I couldn't No, not that I'm a fascist, and people will certainly take it this way But simply that this game is not made for me There are no goodbyes There are no farewells There are good riddances Not from me though More than likely from the comments on this post There is no tl;dr tl;dr's are for those who can sum up a page or two into a sentence or two That'd be if I could sum up this game into a forum post, which I can't Guess that's it Don't try to message me Those of you left in my friends list are there for a reason Hopefully you'll remain there Last post? September 11th, 2019 - April 15, 2021

@zigbigadorlou My opinion is the official opinion. IE I look at the official sphere list and go from there. and @JadenStar10 my favorite colour is a deep sea blue, water heretics most certainly deserve the death sentence, Morf doesnt love you because he has no heart, is FA, doesnt love anyone, he is morf. Adrienne is always sun because the game understands that she is the one most likely to be there for a hug, making it easier for her to stab you in the back. And I am a stonewarden. Others might tell you that other orders are better, I say that they can eat my fist have a pleasant evening. Thanks for the welcome both of ya

In Grumpy, we call ourselves the orca brigade. And yes, I disagree with your usage of orca as well.

Rename KT to Killer Whales. Or Knight Whales or something.

Whaledom is more of a state of mind

I remember folks a while ago saying it was city 20+. However I believe it's now 30+. Perhaps perceptions of what a whale is shifts as more and more nations grow larger and larger relative to others.

Design Team Lead Prefontaine Design Team Members Adrienne Lucianus Keegoz BelgiumFury Decagon Zig Canbec Krampus Penpiko Anri To those who applied an weren't selected, thank you for your time and submissions. I might reach out to you for consulting on specific issues and I'll be keeping your names if the team is going to expand or if it needs to replace any members.

I'm Cob. most people call me Cob. I'm not new to the game anymore, but I'm new to the forums. I'm a Diplomat from TKR, say hi! I'm always good for a chat, willing to answer most any non OPSEC questions, How is everyone doing?

Aside from being a CN mechanic, one of the better ones if I might add. Imagine that they did something right with their *dead* game. All the lol's Make infra cheaper to build, or in other words add "peak" infrastructure to the game. But on a serious note plenty of people have suggested this as well as myself and I feel that if Alex wants to make the game better and discourage pixel hugging this is the best way. An example would be if I bought 2k infra on a city and it gets destroyed to a low of 100 you can rebuild it back to 2k for 50% of the cost. Where it normal costs like $14m it'll cost $7m this of course is without the urbanization projects & policy. The only downside I see is pixel huggers will cry and giant behemoth whales will have a huge advantage but It's worth it. I'm curious what the rest of you think about this.

Commodities Every nation generates two different Commodities in their nation. There are 25 total different Commodities. Every nation starts with 1 Commodities swap which will allow for an instant change for a single Commodity. If a nation has less than or equal to 100 days since being founded and uses their free Commodities swap, that Commodities swap will return 15 days (180 turns) after being used for free. Any nation with more than 100 days since being founded that uses their free Commodities swap will have their free Commodities swap return after 60 days (720 turns). Commodities swap timers can be reduced to 0 turns for 2 credits. Every nation is allowed one default shipping routes. Which allow access to the other nations Commodities resources creating a total of 4 Commodities resources. A low cost project will be introduced which allows for an additional shipping route creating a total of 6 Commodities resources. A higher cost project will be introduced which allows for an additional shipping route creating a total of 8 Commodities resources. Commodities effects do not stack. Food Base Cattle - Increase Food output by 2%, bonus ceases if radiation levels are above 50% Fertilizer - Increase Food output by 2.5% but in Winter Season drops to .5% Fish - Reduces food usage by 5% Bananas - Increases food output by 0.5%. Reduces disease by 0.5% per city. Reduces food usage by 2% Monetary Base Spices - Increase Monetary Revenue by 1%. Diamonds - Adds $25,000 per turn in revenue ($300,000 per day, in comparison 50k color bonus is $600,000) Gold - Adds $20,000 per turn in revenue ($240,000 per day, in comparison 50k color bonus is $600,000) Tea - Increase Monetary Revenue by 1% Ivory - Increases Monetary Revenue by 2% but raises crime by 0.5% City Base Coffee - Increase Commerce (and the commerce cap) by 1% in all cities Citrus - Decreases Disease in all cities by 2% Silver - Decreases Crime in all cities by 2% Glass - Reduces pollution by 25 in each city. Cotton - Increases population by 0.5% Furs - Increases population by 0.5% Copper - Decreases Power Improvements daily cost, resource, and purchase use by 5% Titanium - Decreases infra cost by 5% Soil - Decreases land cost by 5% Military Base Silicon - Decrease Missile/Nuke upkeep and monetary purchase costs by 2.5% Rubber - Decrease Tank/Plane upkeep and monetary purchase costs by 2.5% Stone - Decrease Ship upkeep and monetary purchase costs by cost by 5% Dyes - Decrease Soldier upkeep (including food) and purchase costs by 5% Salt - Reduces radiation effect on food by 15% Skulls - 2% loot boost if average infra greater than 1k, 5% loot boost if average infra less than or equal to 1k Ruby - Bonus can never be reduced below 100k or increased above 1000k. Whenever you win a war gain your ruby bonus. When you win a war it's bonus is increased by 25k. When you lose a war it's bonus is decreased by 10k. The projects will also be listed in another thread coming soon. Logistics Center Effect: Opens an additional trade route for Commodities Cost Cash: $5,000,000 Food: 25,000 Uranium: 5,000 Aluminum: 5,000 World Trade Organization Effect: Opens an additional trade route for Commodities Requirements: International Trade Center, Logistics Center, Space Program Cost Cash: $20,000,000 Food: 250,000 Uranium: 15,000 Aluminum: 10,000 Gasoline: 10,000

Myself and several other members (like @Pailin and @RagnarDanneskjold) of my alliance (The Knights Radiant) suspect that many fake nations have been created for the Swords of Sanghelios (SoS) alliance (formerly named Arsenal) in the last month controlled by one or two players perhaps using masked ip's or something else to hide this. Many of these newly created nations just sit and block good raiding targets without attacking. My mentor says this all looks very fishy and I should file a ticket. The evidence for this is complicated but I will try to explain: 1) If you klick on the alliance page and filter by date created and descending you will see there have been over 60 NEW nations created in the last month that have joined SoS. There are many more not on the list who are "applying" that have been newly formed as well. There hasn't been an active ad campaign for this alliance (and I've been on a lot in the last month) and most other alliances don't have this many brand new players suddenly joining their alliance. My alliance (the #2) alliance has had only 13 new people join in that time period. Most just joining our alliance don't almost immediately attack people either. Also, If you look at the graph for this SoS alliance there is a huge uptick. 2) Many of the newly created nations know exactly who to target almost immediately (nations that have had good raid results,). Some within minutes. Some even before they apply to join SoS (or formerly Arsenal). This is too coordinated and not the behavior of random independent newbies just learning the game. Here is some proof of the fact that these new nations suddenly know who to attack and the targets are top raid producing nations (scroll through their nation activity history and see when formed etc): https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=289093 (this one attacked people i've raided within 3 minutes of applying to sos/arsenal) https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=297290 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=298570 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=297902 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=289075 (this one waited a day to join but knew within 13minutes of applying which countries to attack) There are many more. Here are some that just sit and block spaces without attacking (notice also they know who to attack very early in their formation unlike most newbies) : https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=289093&display=war https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=292988&display=war https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=285279&display=war Recently, they have gotten a bit more clever and had some nations pretend to apply to another alliance but quit them and soon attack still when they shouldn't really know who to attack for example: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=296914 Some wait a day or so to join SoS and attack but it's still fishy that so many newbies are doing this and following a similar pattern for just this one alliance. In our alliance it takes people a while to learn the ropes. Of course, there's a chance that some of these are actually independent players but the odds of so many nations exhibiting the same behaviors and all applying to SoS seem pretty....odd! Also, given the recent news about a possible spy ring with multi's some of whom have been connected to SoS, the evidence above seems worth looking into. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Hello. I've been playing for a couple weeks by this point, and have browsed the forums maybe once or twice in that time. I realized I haven't introduced myself yet, so hello there!

Leader and nation name have !@#$ content: https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=300321

I don't mind a good fight and all but this c10 nation I'm fighting has bought about 400 planes today and about 60 ships. https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=223119

Alright it's possible to set different daychange, a new feature I was not aware of, so it's possible this person just did that

We called ourselves orcas.

I, personally, agree with your suggestion. But there are alot of people that want to go to war and just dont care, because war is fun and funding our infra is our AA Econ's job 😂

C2+ for sure

C20 I think

I don't know much about you, but it was nice knowing you, Chute mi. Farewell.

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Chute, you weren't that fun to play with, but you still were a prominent (and a very controversial) figure in this game. Even though it pains me to say it, considering who you are, I hope all the best for you in your life.

Hey man, I wish you luck with your future. I enjoyed our VCs and lovely "banter" and even though you joined arrgh and raided me, I'll miss you. (Even if the rest of orbis doesn't.) You've been through a lot, and I hope you can figure things out during retirement. Best of Wishes, Star Now watch this post get ratioed for sympathizing with Golden Dawn

I might be more inclined to join in the moral outcry if the people being hit had been more participant in the community. Isolationist styles of play are detrimental to the overall meta and KT forcing these guys into the spotlight is basically doing both them and the community a twisted sort of service. If they ragequit from going to war then it was likely they had one and-a-half feet out the door already.

I get it, I do. You want to enjoy the game without being disturbed by war. But this is a nation simulator with war mechanics. You sign up for this game and understand what you are getting into. If you don't want to fight then maybe just stay and chat with your alliance mates in discord while not being in the game, try to get Sheepy to implement a peace mode, or join Nationstates which is a nation simulator without war. War is a core component of this game and saying KT are sadists for playing the game how it was designed to be played is kind of silly.

Tbqh you don’t need a large warchest if you’re in a curbstomp bloc and only fight in dogpiles. You won’t lose troops and you’ll only burn munitions and gas at minimal levels. Plus you can keep manufacturing up if you had high Infra. if you’re fighting a dogpile, you need a large offshore. Good luck taking anything from me when I have 0 supplies and zero infra. I’m just lobbing projectiles.

Can we just appreciate how well that was written? I read the whole thing, nicely done Thalmor.

Depends, but if you're a new player, you should be primarily focusing on raiding, some aas have you on a raid-only build, while some aas have your produce raws and raid (I dont know TKR's policy), in which case, disease doesnt really matter as you dont have commerce and disease at that level doesnt kill off your population. What I recommend for you to do is join the TKR Discord since you're an applicant, spam ping @BigMorfto be your mentor, and ask him to fix your cities. click this link: https://discord.gg/t7dzPAV click the reaction to give yourself the applicant/squire role. Then open a ticket in #squires and ia/admissions staff should get to you. they will also require you to make a forums account and a slack account btw.

Good Morning The Queen has requested that we announce a new friendship which has been acquired by the Prima Victorian and Knight Templar factions. The Queen and their Grand Master have set terms that both alliances will fulfill mutually. May we remember this day for maybe a week! Treaty of Friendship Section 1 - War Both Parties are at War Section 2 - Treaty Cancellation If Both parties decide they had enough, they may contact the party and withdraw from the agreement Signed for Prima Victoria (Not really) Prime Minister - MinesomeMC King - Morgan FA - Cazaron The Rest of Prima Victoria Signed for Knights Templar The Entire Knights Templar tl;dr - KT and PV sign a War

You always ask whats Prima Victoria, but never how's Prima Victoria?

Hear ye Hear ye! I am King Cob. No need to bow, You are all vastly superior to me. Except for the man named @BigMorf. He needs to bow and apologize. Three days ago he made me a promise. two days ago he said that he needed an extra day. Yesterday, he did not deliver. I made a threat when he made a promise. As I am a man of my word, I am to make good on my threat. Thus, this post. This is a calling out of @BigMorf that your tyrrany shall no longer go unapposed! I declare a shaming period until you fulfill on your promise! Starting with me! Ssssshhhaaaammmmeeee!

These are baseless accusations

yah yah yah, that was a hyperbole to make a point. also what makes you think anyone is putting up a facade on the internet? could it be possible that who i present myself as is who i am?

Of course it was @Changeupwho downvoted, lel

I don't honestly see why we need to include a cookie cutter [DOW], [Treaty] etc to every thread title, @Dio Brando @Nizam Adrienne, Dio and Nizam I agree with 100% it just looks bland and it takes up space in the title for no reason. Just add tags there shouldn't be any reason why having tags not restricted to this sub-forum is a bad idea. In fact I'd argue its a good thing because someone can make a 'Sir Lanka 001' tag which will tell you to avoid that thread for threat of losing brain cells.

Ah micro drama, you guys are so cute. Peace out and good luck to you.

Sorry to see you go Chute, Hope I see ya round and good luck for your future and all that

It would be more touching if I actually spent the time to actually read that utterly illiterate statement.

Nah we just extended the NAP by two years

The theme was the joke hence the superficial poetic nature. Hopefully I don't have to explain the joke.

I dont know, could just be a good recruit bot, but take my upvote.