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I'll keep this short and sweet. Knights Templar had a member continue to attack Oasis members, their government was asked to peace the wars or boot the member. Last time this member hit us they countered our counters. This was not an isolated incident. The KT gov instead stands by the actions of this member to raid us continually and is in violation of the NAP. Oasis has sent a military response towards KT and recognizes their hostilities towards us.

Shifty here with a 2 for 1; a devil's triangle, an eiffel tower, or as you'd say, what ur mum likes. SNN has finally the posts to end Phoenyx posting once and for all. Yes, TI did know.

Just wait till Rose joins, idk which side has the secret treaty but trust me one of them do

Based Babei triggers entire bloc so hard they attack an alliance they outnumber 10 to 1. It's okay though! We don't need naps. We'll put you in an even deeper sleep.

The NAP wasn't between blocs, but alliances.

From tonight's show, I got two statements, one from each side. Oasis: "They were asking for it" KT : "Maybe you should cry harder"

KT visiting Oasis

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I have many strong opinions on these events, contradictions and characters. But I have been muzzled by my government because they want to give you a chance. I guess I'll leave it at: I personally in my capacity of retiree without official voice feel vindicated.

It's amusing literally any of you thought KT cared about NAPs. We're still talking about the AA who left KETOGG cause they refused to accept even the idea of a NAP. And proceeded to break the one that came from that war.

i need a TL;DR

Quack did nothing wrong

You sound salty that no one wants to play your game

And the solution to the 'NAP violations' was to... give us a target rich environment. Damn, really gonna show us lmao.

KT man bad

sit the f down.

THIS should have been the ROH @Lord Tyrion, lol

Can you violate my NAP uwu

I'm just a simple man, no fancy Harvard law degree or multi-generational pedigree of inbreeding, but we have logs showing you two specifically plotted what would become this last world war. Admittedly we can split the hairs on whether or not this specific conversation lead to the collaboration of three spheres against one, but the war happened as described so... I've never known either of you to be shy about things before. This kind of thing should be the norm btw, before Syndicate peeps start upvoting me. Plotting, politiking, catching people in the act... All that and more can come when you start thinning out your paper. Treaties are the death of intrigue.

So your original raid wasn't a NAP violation but one late counter is? Nice logic. And if we'd tried to cycle the guy you'd count each of them as a new war and counter each of them and he'd keep coming back for more - he did come back for more, so here we are. We even offered to just peace all those previous wars and walk away but you wanted "a training exercise" for your members. You purposely refused to try to peace the raids today and tried to justify that you can attack any of our members if you deem them appropriate to do so. You wanted this war.

One Bloc (that can't blitz someone 1/10th their size) vs One 40 man alliance (who spent a solid chunk of last year either raiding or in war). Who will win? Coming to PPV near you.

It's not paranoia if it's true and it's little difficult to believe you guys when, even within this thread, the story keeps changing. First there were no plans, then it was last minute defensive plans, then we have it confirmed there was a long standing secret what's essentially an MDP, and then this shows there were offensive talks, which you guys are still denying even with them being splayed out for all to see. More than a little frustrating that you keep on the "oh, you're just paranoid" track in light of all we've seen.

To have fallen so far and learned nothing. The leadership is not to blame. As much as you and your elitist ilk like to pretend that online nationsim politics is so hard and advanced beyond the means of the everyman, it isn't. Anyone can aspire, politic, and plot. It's your archaic methods in the major alliances and the entanglements of treaties that bind you thusly. Do you want PnW to be interesting? DEMOCRATIZE YOURSELVES - No nation should be slave to their alliance. The alliance should answer to the people. Your typical defense is OPSEC, which is laughable. What opsec have we seen in PnW? Every member, gov or otherwise, rushes to gossip about any unfolding event as quickly as they can. Democracy or no. Plans leak, wars spark, and that is thankfully the only thing that drags politics forward through the mire in which we find ourselves. You want more interesting things happening? Tired of the same old leadership? Then democratize and start seeing turnover and new blood. Your members aren't inactive, they're merely disinterested in investing three years of their lives to maybe get promoted into a position that you'll simply steal back when you unretire every three weeks. gov should be elected via some method, especially the top leader. Arrgh, for example, elects the Grand Admiral and then he/she appoints the rest. treaties, wars, and major decisions should not only be a vote but a discussion. Are you tired of nothing ever happening? SHED YOUR PAPER - I'm really not sure how treaties got carried over from other nationsim games like we learned nothing. I expect because in CN and other games we were too strict, too opsec, too self-contained within our own element of government that we didn't inform the masses who came here and took up the mantle. Treaties fricking suck. They kill intrigue, they kill plotting, they kill politics. Treaties reduce this game of would-be thrones into a mundane exercise in contractual obligation. Congratulations, you're simulating a relationship with a bank. So fun right? FA heads tell me honestly - who do you spend the majority of your time talking to and what do you talk about? It's not your allies unless you truly have a special relationship. You spend your time trying to make new treaties. Upper gov the same. You spend all your political time and energy trying to do something new. Something new is fun, exciting, as it should be. Yet you simple-minded apes can't connect the cause to the effect. You sign a treaty, you now may get an occasional check-in from that ally. More than likely, you'll get radio silence for awhile because the fun has been had and the honeymoon is over. The thing people fail to understand is that a paperless alliance can also obligate itself to defend another alliance. It's an agreement like any other but it's not announced or celebrated and it comes with risk and opportunity. If you agree to defend someone and don't hear from them again until next year - that agreement may be revisited. Similarly, it opens opportunity for politicking on another level. Backstabs, betrayals, disloyalty, plots... Things we pretend to decry in public but crave in private. Just some early morning thoughts from your friendly neighborhood Pirate.

Look at the OP of this thread. No images, no jokes, not even a flag. This is the first time Oasis has done a military action collectively as a bloc (something to be proud of!) and it's the driest, most bland shit ever. "KT man bad so we're fighting him." Wow. Outstanding. Never heard that one before. Look at Tyrion's respond to Denison above. Is that the response of a guy having fun? We're laughing and I don't think you guys are.

Amusing that people take issue with a bloc defending its interests against an alliance violating a NAP.

Wishing Oasis luck on the attack, and hopefully KT will learn their lesson: don't mess with Oasis

Three people can't appreciate the wordplay. These are the bants.

"Last time this member hit us they countered our counters." kekw, You guys broke the nap by countering invalidly after the war you were countering for expired, so we countered your invalid counter. Don't go spouting that bs. See you when you're 700 infra.

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Who's excited to see Thalmor get rolled ? I, for one, am. Come out Tomorrow Night to watch Thalmor craft his pro-KT narrative live on air. Will KT admit they were wrong? Will Oasis stop crying about a raid? Will Majima Goro be hiding under a giant traffic cone? Find out tomorrow night! Friday's episode of Thalmor Radio is at 10 PM EST. Jeric will be our guest to discuss recent turbulence in tCW. Thalmor Radio is P&W's only weekly radio show. Hosted by Thalmor with myself as cohost at Thalmoria every Friday at 9 PM EST (except this week to accommodate Jeric). We cover P&W news, real life news, tells stories, and share our thoughts and feelings on things on our minds. (No/little irl politics any more though). Links: Thalmoria Discord: https://discord.gg/rcnJYAv YouTube episode archive: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFr5zXOgj1AEVtX3OIsK7ZA/videos Official Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw7L4cgABv8

Greetings, friends. Some of you might not know me. Thankfully that means this thread won't impact you, you inactive husk. The rest of you are probably about done mourning my retirement. I thank you for your loyal devotion. Not every icon has the pleasure of interacting on the daily with a fanbase as dedicated as you have been. Where was I? A friend from a less politically active alliance remarked to me the other day that he would tune in to a radio show built around Partisas political hot takes. It got me thinking. About the political ambivalence of 3/4th of the orbis player base which forms the foundation for the inertia of the leadership they fail to oust for their inability or unwillingness to do anything meaningful or fun with the power they accumulate. Underneath that personified stagnation lies a complicated web of personal motivators of the human psyche; the little tids and bits that drive us to do what we do, and feel what we feel. And among those tidbits must be a tiny, rough little diamond that radiates ambition and a genuine interest for the machinations of this world. That diamond can not be pushed to the surface for one reason or another. And so it seems, friends, that it rests on me, your ero, to mine your diamond. If my inactive compatriot can ignite himself by merely focusing on my voice and thoughts; if he can drop the crutches of blind obedience and walk again, an independent minded man, by gravitating toward my humble charisma- a beacon as it were, then surely, so can others. Yet a radio show may not be the answers. For I am lazy and refuse bind myself to times or dates. Instead, I will prepare my musings for this forum- my living room. These musings will dig into political occurrences of the distant and more recent past. To the days of Impero and the fall of Saru. To Prefontaine and baby-roq. To mensan menace, to when the meta was undiscovered and cave-government fiddled with nukes and navies, and many more an occurrence. And as I open up my mind to you, you will receive insights into backrooms that you might not know existed. To conversations that were had, but were promptly buried. To strategic considerations you may never have known existed. Throughout all that, you will learn that I loathe most alliances. My opinions will hurt you. I will not care, and you will forgive me. For that is what this is for. Raw. Unbridled. Partisan. We may take it to radio if the masses demand it. Or we may not. For now, ta!

Waaaait a second. I just noticed this. The post above yours literally notes that if rose is in, you are in. If Rose isn't in, "lets see the size". The only inference one can make is that your war hadn't progressed yet by the time it leaked, because you didn't find your odds dogpile-ey enough yet. The irony of you claiming i'm gaslighting you for calling out the lies of your friends after evidence is publicied underlining said lies is... astounding. You're better than that. Shame, old man.

This is SNN bringing you some shocking news....

I mean, I admitted this happened the day of the war. So did SRD publicly on the forums. They didn't go anywhere and we didn't even intiate the discussions. If a failed plot that barely gets off the ground is enough to validate a cb then this world has an endless amount and quite a few hitting Quack were perfectly justified in doing so. Quack's position given to me was that they were almost 100% sure we were coming for them when no plan existed to do so.

Clearly a comment by a 6d chess master gods be praised

You forgot the key term: TWICE

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10 mil says they and Camelot join the war against KT because of KT's wars against them in 2020.

indeed, it must speak volumes about how inconsequential KT is to Oasis in the grand scheme of things.

>tfw me and the bois raiding

Yeah, it's a blanket NAP. So nobody who fought in the last GW should be fighting anyone else who fought in the GW. It's not about the spheres but the alliances themselves.

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So we have The Order and The Jedi Order, what’s next? The first order?