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Ok. Stop.

There's a blog function on these forums, I suggest using that instead of posting 30 threads in Orbis Central.

Built different.

I wonder why? Look, if you Sphinx everything people DM you, do you really think that they'll continue DMing you?

It was me. I'm the anonymous HM leader.

Now, here me out: let's take a shot for every time Phoenyx says "Tyrion" and then, being in an utterly inebriated state, we can manufacture a better, more entertaining narrative, stumble upon peace through deep and personal talks in the ladies restroom, and settle everything over late night pizza.

I know answers to a lot of things. Things you all do not want to know. I’ve been to the top of the mountain. I’ve had the chalice of power in my grasp and drank deeply from it. Trust me. Why did t$ really sign NPO? What was the true intent of ‘Papers, Please’? Which current major alliance leaders, having representation in all major spheres, comprise the secret and long standing, ‘Bloodlines Society’? This is the story of a man who has nothing to lose anymore, and therefore everything to gain. He is outing what must be exposed, while concealing what ought to be unseen. Part 1 Some people call me Uncle, but nobody calls me friend. Some people call me bastard, but nobody calls me home. Some people call me by a name, but nobody calls me by my name. True, not false. That may sound confusing, but it really isn’t. Don’t look at the penumbra, but feast your eyes directly on the corona. Orbis isn’t the murky pool. Its secrets are not so hard to decipher. One must just embrace the deep end. Why do we turn from truth? Is truth not itself a belief? Is belief not an end in itself? But rather truth is the beginning, begetting a greater satisfaction. It can be tough to swallow when you don’t properly chew. That’s why I’m here. That’s why I’m ready. That’s why the time is now. Section 2 Consider this: Time and again the wheels of Orbis turn and proceed to churn. Sometimes things seem stable, other times they get bumpy, and on occasion, the ride is outright perilous. Yet somehow the wheels never fall over to the wayside. One wheel never gets out of step compared to its companions. What is this innate stability? What is this natural law? How does this system function? They call their rotational leader, ‘The Axle’. Each has their turn. The anticipation of each is how they all relate, how they learn to understand one another. As they say, “It brings order to the chaos. It brings melody to the cacophony. It brings reason to the unreasonable.” ‘They’? Who are you referring to? I’m referring to those who think this game is their game. Chapter 3 Stay still for a moment. Forget whatever has been on your mind. Just listen. Just feel. Just cease to understand what you never had to comprehend in the first place. It takes up unnecessary space, and leaves the mind cramped, unable to see what is right in front of you, hear what surrounds you, and taste what is sometimes literally at the tip of your tongue. We’re all capable of it. We just need to see what we need, and not see what they need. I’m asking you to actually play this game for once, rather than be the game being played. Why is this THEIR game? It should be YOUR game.

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I'm pretty sure there's a lot to discuss. None of it is in this thread though Please, try to be specific with who you mean by "you". Hodor is not lying. Grumpy hasn't been lying. I think we've been the most open alliance in this whole thing. Is your cause just? Hardly. Justified? Maybe, sure. You keep mentioning this post, and saying things like getting SRD to ask the hedge leader to clarify...as if that very same hedge leader isn't an active member and probably has seen most of this discussion. SRD doesn't owe you anything lol. There's also not much to clarify. "Counter Quack's Growth" sounds about as much like "Manufacture a CB and hit" as anything I can think of. In b4 partisan screenshots this with an incoherent post like he seems to like to do with my succinct rants Like I said before and during Thalmor Radio, the narrative doesn't really matter much at this point. There isn't really much to say unless Rose sphere or *unnamed swamp-hedge leaders* come forward and spill what most of the game already assumes. It all boils down to: Quack seemed to be getting too big. Rumblings of an aggressive action were starting, intending as a check/balance. Quack caught wind, tried to isolate hedge/tcw, but got caught with their pants down by a planned Rose counter they weren't expecting. And in the end, Quack will hopefully accept peace after an adequate peace, and we can move forward in to a tense 3-v-1 situation until Quack can figure out how to regain hedge or swamp on their side.

No one unites both sides of this war the same way Phoenyx does. Good on you sir and/or madam for bringing together folks on both sides of the conflict to facepalm at your comments together. Cheers to peace.

The war is ongoing because of different considerations by either party, and will continue to go on regardless of how much effort you try to pour in. Because many if not most of those said considerations are independent from that subject matter. You could write a thesis for your graduation on this subject, and it'd not move the needle the slightest bit. Which is part the reason why people have told you to quit your self-assigned Messianic task. It's a waste if time that won't lead anywhere.

One thing I can say for sure is that someone in your position. Not a Gov member of any of the alliances in the war, will not be the one to achieve any sort of agreement. All you do by rambling on like you do is ensure that you have no influence. I'd suggest taking a step back, evaluating your position and work to get yourself to a position where you can have influence (if this is what you desire) before you try to demand it, by rambling in every forum post.

Whoa there, buddy. Just thought I'd offer some clarification. Would like to chat but I can tell by the tone of your posts that you're really strung up tight about all this so I'll just drop it. Remember though that this is just a game. No need to get so worked up over it. It's bad for your health both emotionally and mentally to get so invested and let it stress you out so much. Take a break for a month or something if you have to. We'll all be here when you get back.

Everything we say. You will quote the previous response and just say the exact same thing over and over again. You won't address any points raised other than to say you don't believe those points and then repeat your previous words for the 100th time.

Dude i've spent the vast majority of the last 8 months at home. this is the most entertainment I get. The optional aggression component of the Swamp Bloc treaty necessarily refutes this claim. In all seriousness though, it's almost farcical to say something like that. "The every essence of Swamp is defensive in nature" he says literally three months after Swamp and Hedge aggressively dogpile TCW.

Okay, but you opened up your posting decrying our silence... gotta make up your mind my dude... keep the narrative straight Also, use y'all or your side, I assure you I tell no lies. Hedge Money has a hegemony on coalition speech! Jokes aside, this makes sense. Y'all gotta leave us outta this Swamp and Rose bashing then, or else we'll use our overwhelming powers of speech against you!

I don't think you understand... No one will care about your conclusions... As I've stated, your ramblings have ensured that you are irrelevant when it comes to discussions in this war, and further in this forum and game politics for the time being. My suggestion was literal. Step back, evaluate and come back when you have a position of influence. If you want to be taken seriously and be relevant you have to earn it.

We've figured out the problem.

Disregard all phoenyx posts. He's just on a spam spree. I point you towards the DoW OPs, and the subsequent back-and-forths between quack/swamp/HM govs. That'll paint a more accurate picture for you.

But this isn't what Tyrion said happened

The notion that swamp's intentions were "defensive only" is something you've labeled as verified fact with the sole underlying evidence being the word -at face value- of people who you "believe to be x y z" based on a few interactions and 2 months of play, who also stand to gain from lying in public. You too easily discard and question *actual* evidence in the form of logs based on your personal interpretation of what may or may not be the sources motivations. That's roughly where your arguments strand. As for swamps contradictions, I point you at stuff sprayed across the forums and discord, which got snowed under by your avelanche of "research" posts. I don't plan to repeat myself ad infinitum. Yeah no. Ronny's recollection is of events far preceeding our actions. His confirmation that approach was made, along with the existence of a network of defensive treaties and/or lines of communication geared toward "curbing/countering quacks growth" and the sphinx logs + boyce verification is *plenty* to vindicate us. Particularly when presented with an opposing narrative boiling down to "uR tOo BiG". See above 2 snippets. Adding on to that: My belief that you are biased is not based on the alliance(s) you reside in. Its based on your conduct. As noted earlier, you take every word of theirs at face value. Even when one is caught lying (as occurred earlier when claims were made that we were 2000 nations strong), you backpedal and try to justify for them with non-arguments; "It was a mistake" "No he meant xyz" "Maybe he was joking!". It's further supplemented by snippets like this: ( (Re this one: You write an opinionated thread and then present it as evidence). Infatuated. no.

I'm aware eventually you would think he'd learn... I guess not. I'll just go back to my cats.

Hes been told this many times

They certainly don't want to testify to you. Because you're a chattering hog monkey who won't take a hint to shutup. And also because nobody's going to agree on the truth because nobody in any sort of meaningful position actually wants that.

Haha, if I close my eyes, it’s like the evidence doesn’t even exist

Me neither.

More for WS and I. You're still invited. We'll need a sober witness.

Any change should be made to spies and not the spy satellite. Spy satellite should work the same way.

Hahahaha they were fun times man, but that ship has sailed lmfao A number of us only come on when we get pinged I'm still amazed with this narrative that $yndicate muzzles its members when we literally had people like you and me allowed to put their 2 cents on ANYTHING Most of these frickers' alliances would not last having personalities like we have had on it Bro you're easy pickings. Low hanging fruit. Easy target. I'm a fricking angel compared to who the frick you, @Epi, @Azazel, and all you motherfrickers are. s/o to @Kastor I don't have to spin shit, the proof is in the pudding. I just have to come on here once in a blue moon as an ether to weak ass players like you guys.

I thought I had covered my tracks well, but I did not count on the uncanny intuition of Phoenix to pick up on my trail. At this point, I see my days are numbered, so I will end it on my own terms and confess: I am the secreative HM leader. I would of gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.

He is the chosen one

It's a known issue, and one on my to-do list to refactor.

I figured as much. That's a privilege reserved for people on your side

Yes because you only take Tyrion's word for it

This sometimes does happen; the nuke randomly rolled "subway" twice while only killing a single subway. Unfortunately the other improvement destruction was just plain lost. I just assume the nuke went off underground.

And again you didn't look at it. I'll make this as simple as I can: He said you post often. Your response was that no, you post often. Can you see the fundamental discrepancy now?

Here we are trying another narrative. Look bro, I can come to these forums at ANY time and embarrass any character to rile up my people. Ex. @Akuryo @Epi @King Arthur @Azazel @Grave You can try and embarrass me, but how the frick do you embarrass someone who has contributed nothing? I've done it every fricking war and this war is not different. Try again.

The name of my show (Thalmor Radio) isn't some curse that strikes down the person who utters it. It's okay to say it lol. I've claimed several times that your side controls the narrative, but it's an observation. I have not claimed that my side is hiding nor that there isn't 'a leg to stand on' in diplomatic talks. Don't read so much into what I say.

I am a true original.

I don't agree with that at all. I think I've done a great deal more analysis on the origins of this war then anyone else posting. What evidence did I structurally ignore? I suppose you could say that you've told me before and aren't doing it again. We may have to disagree on that point.

As I noted before. Enough admissions and contradictions are at this point document to fully vindicate quack and justify quacks pre-emptive strike. Your "investigation" structurally glosses over various contradictions, both by swamp internally and between swamp and its coalition partners, and in the same breath takes the statements of swamp leaders at face value *over* the statements of quack, swamp and HM leaders (as with the "approach" matter). Your respect for tyrion and your affinity for swamp are absolutely your good right. But when you consistently allow that bias to influence the conclusions and deductions in your "research", it stops being a research and starts looking like a shill. That is the point where we stopped engaging it. You're free to keep asking. Boyce will speak if he feels like speaking. Our justification, given the admissions we have seen, does not hinge solelyon his availability. It is but a component. I'll also note that neither ronnys comment nor your posting has had, or will ever have an impact on the length of this war. The war will end in due time.

Y'know, one thing I've found is that when you're expected to bite your tongue... something is very wrong. Possibly with your understanding of the situation, but more than likely there's something wrong with the reasoning of the ones telling you to stay silent. Either way, further silence wins nothing. If you have a problem with your leaders... then at least, at least talk it out with them in private. If at the end of that you still don't like it, consider letting them know that you're planning on quitting at some point in the future, after your debts and obligations are settled. If they threaten you at that point... then frick right off, because NOBODY, in ANY sphere, including if not especially my own, should have the right to threaten their members into submission. That right there is the reddest of flags in my experience, and there's nothing at all that can justify that sort of behavior imo.

Well I have been trying to avoid the forums lately but it looks like Phoenix has forced me out of retirement to say this. Putting aside your position on the narrative (which I don't agree with btw), I applaud you for having the courage to come out and engage/express your views here. As you've probably seen by now, the elites that control things around here aren't very pleased that you're saying something outside the official narratives, or in the case of your sphere a lack of one. I also firmly recall a time where I was in a similar spot as you and although I've had to bite my tongue for reasons I'm not getting into right now, just know that I stand by and support your right to do what you're doing and don't let anyone tell you that you can't. Perhaps one day when circumstances are a bit different, I'll be able to join you in your crusade on the forums. Sometimes we'll agree and sometimes we won't but the one thing we both can realize is that the REAL hegemony are the elites on both sides that attempt to silence new voices.

they used the same discord as well, pretty suspicious

Changeup isn't leadership, he's literally high gov, and recently at that. Good God you went from being a cute noob to the terrifying results of a chemistry experiment mixing a dash of cooper with a beaker of inst.

I would drink Dr Death if it was an option.