Leaderboard

So to encourage this war to be over, I'll be dropping daily leaks from both sides until the war ends. First up, Coalition A or B, whatever u are. George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:04:57 PM we've spent a lot of time knocking down all their whales George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:05:30 PM so now we spend time knocking down their middle tier to ash George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:05:59 PM what we need is a total war strategy George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:06:42 PM what does that look like, what is the expected outcome George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:07:31 PM this isn't CN, you can't keep attacking people until they all retreat into PM or surrender individually George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:15:23 PM and as I said elsewhere, we need to decide how much time/blood/treasure we're willing to invest in the project George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:16:00 PM ultimately at this point they are probably thinking that if they survive without surrendering they win Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:16:22 PM I mean it’s an all in war George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:16:31 PM I don't think that giving them all the terms is going to help or change that George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:16:56 PM like I said, total war Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:17:16 PM They will come at us coordinated next time George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:17:33 PM so do we continue until we see some disbandments? George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:18:57 PM IMHO, if they won't negotiate, and you don't want to hand them a simple surrender and we're done, then we remain at war, and if we remain at war, there needs to be a goal Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:19:11 PM I mean t$ is displacing Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:19:15 PM Dissolving Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:19:23 PM That’s why they’re so desperate TheNG11/20/2019, 5:20:06 PM Like falling apart dissolving or actually disbanding? George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:20:20 PM either achieves the same goal George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:21:10 PM I want to look up t$ and get nothing, or I get a couple of diehards who refused to leave the AA Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:21:22 PM Falling apart George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:21:23 PM but effectively they are dead Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:21:26 PM They won’t disband Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:21:38 PM They’ve lost about 4-5 members a week Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:21:46 PM It’s why partisan is so desperate TheNG11/20/2019, 5:22:18 PM Huh, I didn't know they were losing that many. Not good for them Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:22:34 PM Thats t$ proper Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:23:06 PM And they are supplementing members from E$ QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:23:39 PM CoA still seems to have some pride left. QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:23:59 PM Idk what the morale status is on OWR or Carth QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:24:09 PM If we're constructing war goals, might as well lay out the whole board. George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:24:30 PM agreed Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:25:32 PM Carthagos members a re fading George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:25:51 PM because if any of the other side is teetering on the point of disbanding, we could focus them and give them one last good push over the cliff Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:26:00 PM I mean that’s the goal Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:26:06 PM But everyone has to be on board Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:26:13 PM We will never have this advantage again George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:26:52 PM I say we press on QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:27:50 PM We have to, at this point QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:27:52 PM There's no alternative.

Well, looks like we have a bunch of jokes in that chat. I like the whole "We have to make them disband" shtick. Very thoughtful. Almost like communities won't find a way to stick together with third party chats, or members of said communities won't find a way to get pay back. But at least we get to see which side of the "apparent" rivalry are the !@#$ of the game. EDIT: lol, the reactions to this leak is funny to watch.

You're part of what's wrong with this game.

^what buorhann said. it's also really stupid, and silly, that you guys are relying on "beating up their military units" as a way to cause alliances to "disband." like come on. That shouldn't even be the focus. (It's depressing.) It's a strategy game. At least these attempts are limited to in-game war mechanics / "math" rather than harassing anyone over discord. So that makes P&W better than a certain OTHER poli sim game.... (this is my own opinion and does not reflect my alliance) edit: turns out I misunderstood the topic

Wait we're mentioned in the same post as goons? I hate to think that we've sunk so low

The insecurity in that chat lmao. Seriously you guys have most the game allied and still are worried that we're going to smack you unless you have us disband? Clooney has forgotten that this is a game and the fact he has such a vendetta is very lol-worthy.

I don't get why the other side wants us to disband. Yes, if we did disband, all your enemies would be gone. That's a complete victory IC-wise. In the meta though, that's awful. The only people left would be your allies. Would you betray them and roll them? You might 'split' and go separate ways, but you guys were given the chance to do this earlier this year and you guys blew it. Would you guys just farm pixels indefinitely and give the game a slow death? I don't get why you're so scared to fight us again 6 months, or 8 months, or a year later. Use that time to prepare and to try to win. If I was a regular member of Coalition B, I'd be doing some serious soul searching right now. If my alliance was actively working to stall out the game I played, I know I wouldn't like that. The entire reason why I founded KT was to have an alliance outside the then-present political constraints of the time so the game could be more energized and, well, interesting.

Yes, let's just not comment on your intent to force alliances to disband. Honestly, how dare you? Shame on you.

The whole idea of "forcing" disbandments are illogical and childish nonsense. All it does is hurt the game. It doesn't matter if it comes from 1 member or all. When it comes from a high ranking government member than it shows how little they care or understand the game as a whole. PnW is a niche game where it's hard to gain and hold members so when these people come out to push others out they hurt it. Doesn't matter which side they are on since to me they are idoits. I think it is pretty obvious that the goal is to cripple any opposition which will stagnate the game. That's why they refused to buy into a more complex political landscape. It was fear driven and much like these logs show that they are still fear driven. The next war will be same sides because of that, it's not revenge but lack of other options. That's my opinion anyways. As to your last point. Sure, during times of war the average member has more to do but that only holds for so long. Players want to war, build and repeat. They don't want to sit for 6 months doing nothing and even the excitement of war grows thin as time goes on. There is absolutely no reason for a war to last longer than a couple of months other than the fulfillment of some people's egos. We make our own entertainment and the quicker people realize that the cycles of rebuild, political reshaping, than collapse leading to war the better off we will be. But sure go ahead and claim that this whole mess is good for the game in general.

TheNG10/2/2019, 9:56:57 AM Is the plan to get them out ASAP and focus on tS, or keep them down too? Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:57:42 AM Destroy them Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:57:53 AM It’s a bipolar world now Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:57:59 AM We need them dead TheNG10/2/2019, 9:58:51 AM Alright TheNG10/2/2019, 9:59:29 AM There are only two types of alliances in this world - IQ and IQ stats muahahaha Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:59:43 AM Se need to make as many of their members quit as possible Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:59:55 AM T$ has surrounded themselves with bad alliances Aragorn10/2/2019, 10:00:23 AM So we need to break their backs Aragorn10/2/2019, 10:00:43 AM Since next war we are fighting all these alliances from the beginning underlordgc10/2/2019, 10:02:20 AM You want these people to quit the game? BK man bad Aragorn10/2/2019, 10:05:14 AM Pretty sure that’s been established

I get what you're saying Madden, but that logic is faulty. If we were to adhere to it, here's what we'd get (and what was occurring): 1. Coal A sues for peace 2. Coal B sets impossible hurdles/finds a reason to tank talks, deliberately delays 3. Peace talks fail 4. Coal B claims coal A is too stubborn/prideful and is delaying talks 5. Coal A can't dispute claim because coal B threatens to further delay talks if contents of talks are shared. 6. Coal A gives in, sues for peace 7. Coal B sets new impossible hurdles/finds a reason to tank talks, deliberately delays 8. Peace talks fail 9. Coal B claims coal A is too stubborn/prideful and is delaying talks and so on. The leaks at this point have proven that there is and has been a deliberate attempt at frustrating peace talks. Public discourse has proven that before the leaks, coal B was blaming coal A for delays. Since the leaks, that narrative has shifted to "WELL YOU ARE LEAKING AND THATS NOT HELPING PEACE". That's illogical.

What are you gonna do about it? Disband us? ?

Collapse in the Mines Pantheon and it's Allies declare Victory over the now disbanded alliance : The Coal Mines The war is now called "Collapse in the mines" which it really did(tcm) collapse though I got messaged a lot about nokia's ruined life and shit but the truth is he's a thief, not only for Pantheon but even other alliances or nations... I mean I'd love to get reparations back, but with the disbandment of TCM that's not happening and Pantheon will rebuild on it's own in a short(not too long) period of time. I hope Nokia did have a good time with his great idea "hey I have 23 members, I'm gonna hit Panth and get some reputation" but that backfired hard. The point of all this is,that you can't do shit and escape with it right away! By the way your "blitz" took like 3-4 days..which is a total disaster Everyone's time will come sooner or later, most or some knows what I'm talking about! Huge respect to our allies(The Federation, The Immortals and World Task Force for their will & great coordination and cooperation!) Best Regards ¬SixSadistic66(a.k.a Nomi) - Titan of Pantheon

Besides what Keegoz replied, didn’t George Clooney already celebrate the loss of members in other alliances in Partisan’s first thread of leaks? I also distinctly remember Pika getting leaks on Coalition B’s intention to continue this war to continue to hurt us. This just continues to confirm what we already knew. It’s not like this is a new trend rather this is just damning evidence. As for CBs, they are an essential part of the strategy of this game. It’s not politics. It’s not war. It’s politics AND war, which implies the prerequisite of diplomatic norms such as CBs, treaties and the like for appropriate gameplay. Without this fundamental agreement of gameplay norms, this game breaks down as we are seeing right now with the peace talks. Go ahead and play WoT if you just want to fight, but don’t ruin this game with the cockamamie bs you are spouting.

I'd like to speak to your manager please.

Can confirm, t$ is literally dying and will disband imminently.

I'm not sure what is worse tbh. The amount of leaks IQ has given Orbis, or how dumb they are on the forums. But aight.

I only come here for that sweet, sweet disbandment.

Kerchtog is looking at this incorrectly. They should (when beiged) join Fark sphere. They should start building up their aircraft. So, eventually BK will point to Kerchtog like "oh hey, you guys lost all your members. Hahahaha" and then in like, three days, the entirety of Kerchtog will have max aircraft... Make this happen guys, and send my nation 10 billion for this amazing war strat.

Not shocked, friend. Just disappointed.

It was so nice without your nonsense for 2 months. Can we go back to that?

A declaration of war against GOONS by a micro? Genuinely a very bold move.

Proud of the snark you're developing.

Imagine declaring war from Vacation mode....oh wait!

Col B just massively closed off their coalition channel. Not really something you would do if the logs being leaked were fake. Nice try at a denial but your side has already made moves to prove these are real.

We are drafting the terms of disbandment. Please, be patient.

Well, not saying we would’ve done a continuous war, but they may decide to attack us back, or some minor conflict pulls us against each other - or hell, if N$O and BKsphere fought each other - we may have found ourselves at opposite ends as well. The point being is that by plotting to have the 2 smaller spheres rolled - they pretty much forced/helped us realign together indirectly. As I’ve stated before, alliances in KETOG and Chaos fought more against each other than any other group outside has done (In recent years). Instead of pursuing/fixing connections or fostering potential animosity between certain alliances, NPO/BK opted to reform IQ 2.0 and force the game back into stagnation. After reading this log though, it pretty much shows that they’re (Or at least those in the chat) not known for their intelligence or foresight. They simply let their paranoia (As usual) dictate their moves.

Restricting access on the server won't save you from the leaks.

This thread was rendered moot with the latest @Kastor leak.

The amusing thing is that had they just left KETOG and Chaos alone, chances are, we'd still be fighting each other. But yeah... the whole plot to roll the 2 smaller spheres and then the whole "voluntarily" joining the bigger sphere with some bogus CB reasoning... Nice going guys. You really did a good job thinking this through.

I will miss Syndicate. They brought so much for this game, and their most important achievement is that they entirely changed up the game a few months ago by signing NPO... It was fun while it lasted. But like any beautiful bird, the time has come. While the ending my be macabre, and it's certainly disheartening, it is natural. The Syndicate has had it's rises, it's wonderful, wonderful rises... But today is the day that the money stops. The revenue changes, and the world loses something amazing... (As a member of The Pirate $yndicate on the test server, I am completely knowledgeable about the inner workings of the $yndicate. If you have any questions or concerns about the alliance, feel free to message me in dms at CitrusK#5235)

haha but BK man good...amirite lads?

whoops

This is gonna be fun

imagine getting the biggest hard-on rolling defenseless satellite alliances who had no chance in hell to win because you brought half the top 10 with you it doesnt turn me on but you do you

You had a missing bit there.

Sorry, you must be new to the game. Welcome to Orbis! Please have fun while you're here, and remember that you are all playing a game, and that behind each screen is a living, breathing person with feelings. I hope that everyone can be respectful of each other, even when we disagree, and realize that while this is a competitive game, there's no need to take it to a personal level. Be kinder to each other. We can all work together to make a better, friendlier, less toxic community by having compassion and respect for one another.

I don't think there's anything breaking the rules on Nazism here. As far as I know, Wolfenstein is not a pro-Nazi game, and the actual song itself is not Nazi-related at all.

First, I don't see what you're reporting. There's no rule against "report abuse." Next, "Communist States of America" was banned for multiple repeated images and instances supporting genocide of muslims, not for having the name "Deus Vult." Genocide is unacceptable, and I hope it's obvious why.

Greetings from the Republic of Canada. We are open for business and would love for you all to come by and say to your friendly neighbors. We are interested in trading with our alliance and protecting the honor of this alliance. If there are any questions or concerns regarding our great nation, please ask.

I don't know that quoting the Game Rules in an embargo reason is really "moderator impersonation" (or moderation as a weapon) but I did shoot them a message and ask them to stop.

I really hope we haven't reach this point. This is pretty sad if it's true.

Typical leaks and common info please post something more juicy next time

Congratulations on the victory. ❤️ With full of ❤️ from Titan's Mother. I have lower infra than you. And I cannot return soon. Help me. ?

I’m posting cause I feel bad that you don’t have any replies

honestly while everyone does shit on panth, props to their ever changing gov for somehow keeping the alliance together all these years grats on the win, y'all worked hard (kinda)