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I plan to build to 10k infra per all my 15 cities at as much land as possible to declare on Fragle Rock the nuke goddess for a epic battle my I request not getting nuke rougued for it take away from my long journey to fight Fragle Rock

oh my bad, i didn't read the post

A noble endeavor. Save a city for me to nuke after, kthxbai.

Call to Arms for any Indian, Pakistani, or Bangladeshi players Who's interested in forming an alliance on Dec 31st and DoE'ing as a top 10 alliance in 2020. Superpower 2020, a brown alliance, that overnight will grow and become a P/W force. A aggressive and coordinated show of India str0nk. Who in? To any naysayers saying 2 weeks/this will never work:

Screenshot should be self-explanatory.

I don't think an admission of defeat is the problem. From what I gather from poking around, a lot of the previous breakdowns were the result of a breakdown of communication due to the miscommunication (on your side) and misinterpretation (on kerchtogg's side) of the loaded term of surrender before the presentation of the instruments of surrender. Kerchtog coalition was made to believe that the term was designed as an unconditional surrender similar to (for the gamers out here) the "unconditional surrender" option in paradox' EU4. That is to say, they would prematurely have to agree to what terms followed, and be seen as reneging on "peace" if they found said terms unacceptable. From that vantage point, I too would have refused to surrender. It was later clarified by coalition B that this was not the case, and that the surrender term was merely a preamble to the start of "real" negotiations about instruments of surrender. I anticipate this whole admission of defeat thing to blow over fairly easily at this point. As I was not around for the kerchtog-coal B talks in person, I can not speak on the cause of this miscommunication. I would however point out that the "Accept our terms or see you in a month" policy taken by coal B negotiators probably has not been helpful in identifying and addressing the cause of the breakdown in communication which has been holding up negotiations. Here's to a better procession from here, eh?

BITCONNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECT

Not sure how that makes it a lie. The line about the logs was only one part of the post. The overall point in the post was that if we allowed the situation to continue as it was going it would create a circumstance where we wouldn't be able to do much on our own after if the situation at the time persisted, so it was better to fight then than to fight later. The things stated in the logs were coming close to fruition, so we couldn't let it keep going, but the overall situation was problematic in how it was transpiring at the time. I also don't recall saying that we would never enter the war. The fact you feel you were owed something by us has been the problematic part throughout this as if we had some moral duty to let you come out on top without providing any resistance. We didn't. The consequences of KETOG/TKR coming out on top were seen as being pretty bad potentially. The major alliances on the Coalition B side petitioned for support because they needed it, so we acted knowing the situation wouldn't turn out well if we didn't try to do something. This whole notion where an "honorable defeat" for coalition B would have been great for everyone is something people plain don't agree with and you'll never be able to force that view on anyone else besides your own circlejerk or some stockholm syndrome sufferers. It's pretty simple: 1. You achieving an absolute crushing victory over coalition b = no gain for us. It would be a potential hellscape for our interests as we wouldn't be able to win on our own. 2. Coalition B didn't want to lose and asked for support. 3. We tried to turn the situation around to avoid the worst case scenario for us and them.

I've seen this "eradication" rhetoric repeating recently with a recurring pattern in the last few pages, and while I understand people trying to keep the thread alive by throwing shit back and forth, I'd just like to point out that this is.. going a bit too far. The Coalition A, monstrosity in itself, had a colossal number of exactly 3 terms to be laid out in the eventual peace talks. One you can guess yourself, the other two were related to bank/nation changenames. I'm pretty sure this was already made public awhile ago, and can be confirmed by a dozen leaders present in that conversation. Merging speculation with one forum post in the heat of the battle, and producing a grand conspiracy out of it 4 months later is hardly any evidence for words that you've laid out/someone told you. The other speculations you've made all stem from the aforementioned false assumption, so I'd rather not get into that and make this a pissing match I'd rather instead reiterate what Partisan said above - The chief obstacle in this war is and has been communication, or rather the lack of it. Both sides have taken the battle to the forums to "one up" the other side, and while that is no uncommon for a global war, this one has been particularly intense and dirty. Combined with misinterpretation and forum battles spilling over to the "talks", if we can call them that, the product is not at all surprising, really. Here's to more clarity in the future, eh?

However, GOONS, has the best theme: us > pubbies.

He said with as much land as possible.

just hit 1k content noobs

This pretty much already happens to some extent and there are enough people who don't hold an official leader position who wield considerable influence where it's not really a gamechanger. Most of the complaining about leaders staying around long doesn't really look at that most people don't actually want the responsibility leadership entails and for good reason. It's not glamorous and no one's getting any real glory from being a leader. It's literally just masochists who volunteer to stay leaders and stick it out. Like I did say I had suspicions/prejudices towards people who have been leaders for longer than I have or have cycled in and out over the past 5 years, but there's a reason they're sticking around and I don't blame them. It's not really about wanting to dislike them/blacklist and it'd be better if we could find common ground at some points, but it just hasn't been there so we see the worst in each other.

i am on team "i dont give a shit about the captcha one way or another" but lmao if u think its stopping botting at all

Recently we upgraded the test server to the latest versions of MySQL and PHP to prepare for upgrading the live server. These new versions have stricter standards and have created a lot of game-breaking bugs. I am trying to work through all of these bugs as quickly as possible. Please report any bugs you find here, in this thread so that I have a list I can work through. Thank you!

Hello, I'm conducting a public experiment on the true profitability on Keno. Recent very lucky wins of multiple billions have made me realize this could be a very profitable venture. So there are two steps I need from you guys, the crowd I'm sourcing from. 1. Tell me your lucky number. Just one number. 2. Invest your funds with me. You can send a trade to my nation or drop cash to me via alliance bank. Nation name: Vvardenfell The top 10 donators will have their lucky numbers used for the Keno unless they overlap. I'll be doing $1m bets until the funds are gone. If money is net-made, all initial investments and an appropriate percentage of the profits will be returned. Once some cash is sourced and numbers are picked, I'll make a discord event out of actually playing it. Hopefully next by next weekend.

This is still a fricking thing? How many times have we made the circle by this point?

The way I see it: Side A doesn't want to take the generally unprecedented step of agreeing to preconditions for peace and/or making concessions without anything in return, and see an "admission of defeat" as a precondition/concession. Side B doesn't want to negotiate with people posturing about how they haven't lost, and sees asking for an "admission of defeat" as a way to preclude it. Seems like a good middle ground would be to hold negotiations where both sides agree to not debate who "won" as part of the talks (that doesn't mean that an admission of defeat can't be a peace term). Side A doesn't have to make any one sided concessions without getting anything in return and Side B doesn't have to suffer listening to people on Side A posturing about not loosing.

Wars don't work, no maps used says i've taken loot but no loot gained, sys troops got killed and both of us have all troops intact.

We're Knights of the Vacation Mode We're beiged whene'er we're able We do routines and shitpost scenes with hubris impeccable! We dine well here with Camelot We eat junks of guinea pigs and weebsalot! We're Knights of the Vacation Mode Our posting is, cringable! But this time now, We're facing a war That is quite unwinnable We're Templar Mad with Afrika Korps We sing to the tune of Scarfalooot! In war, we're tough, and able! Quite Grey, and quite beigable! Between our wars, we delet all military And impersonate Pantheon! It's a busy life in TKR "I have to spam the forums a loooot!"

Oh good, we've moved on to you are or aren't relevant pwns. Now we get to find out who the big strong browser game dorks are.

Given that he’s an NPO member I’m certain he has more clout than you

Yanno it's one thing when salty leaders say to each other "you're shit", but I don't really why some irrelevant nobody to no one anywhere is trying to interject with that. You've got less clout and experience than a micro, so why don't you let the real adults in the room handle it, and be quiet at your kiddy table. ?

I think PG might be the oldest dept now I think on it. It predates moo by a long stretch. I seem to remember a coonection with either sir paul or lord valentine. I wouldn’t be surprised if it came across from NS or some form of it anyway. heh, I doubt many of the old guard would enjoy PnW. CN back in 06 was the realm of polisci graduates. PnW caters to the meme crowd more so.

If my brain ever becomes so atrophied I can't tell the difference between people larping on the internet as bad guys for fun and people actually gulaging innocents in real life, just fecking pull the plug on my obviously pickled life support sucking brain. Anti-fun get out.

XD Epi is right, that moment when a RWBY themed nation attacked ATLAS itself was also one of the most wholesome moments for me in this WR-destroying, attritional crapfest! Glad I won that particular battle, at least. Makes me want to join camelot after the rebuild but don't tell my superiors! ?

Land doesn’t boost your NS, but have fun with it I guess.

Frederick the Great would have hated Hitler if only because Hitler was a tactical buffoon

"Can I pay to use my bot to cheat" No thanks. There're enough exploits in the game as it is.

Oh boy. You entered by provoking us, but continue putting your heads in the ground claiming otherwise. Before then, we had done absolutely nothing towards your alliance. At all. No one in their right mind would have their members do spy ops when 1) They’re newly established or 2) They do it on alliances in the middle of a major war. Thats just stupid, and the fact one of the justifications used was “We’re a raiding alliance”, well...

I think most people, and average players in general want the war to end. The only reason everyone is still fighting is because Coalition A wants to see all the terms of Coalition B before accepting any kind of surrender. Coalition B wants Coalition A to surrender first, and then talk to us about the other terms. I understand that Coalition B wants the surrender to show that Coalition A is serious about peace talks. However, most of Coalition A wants is to see your terms even if it's just a few of them. I think we all get that right now after 30+ pages that surrender is non negotiable. If Coalition B would put SOMETHING on the table though for the other side to think about, that could go a long way to ending this pathetic war. And it really has became pathetic that this one little issue is all that's standing in the way of peace... I honestly don't see where the harm is in the other side saying surrender is non-negotiable, but we have terms A, B, and C that we want to see happen to go along with it. That gives Coalition A something to think about and discuss with the other side. It would take nothing to do that, and all holding back terms is doing is making it seem like either an unconditional surrender, or that Coalition B has horrendous terms they want to impose on Coalition A. You can kill both theoretical fears by simply presenting terms that go with the surrender. Who knows? You might get it then. ...Then again, I feel it's pointless to even bother posting about it because everyone's pride is in the way. I think those leading these peace talks care more about their egos than they do about peace or the stability of the game. Hence why we could very well be fighting til New Years and beyond.

1. Make a city 2. Buy 1000 infra 3. Make 20 farms 4. Buy food project and NRF 5. Use the rest of your money for land 6. Buy nukes every day 7. Sell your food and repeat 8. Reach the highest score

As many of you may already have read this earlier post of mine, It has gained quite some friction and as instructed by my government officials, I am officially giving my apologies to The Knights Radiant, and take back all of my words, and will indeed not post spy attacks to their nations. I would like also like to apologize a TKR nation "Akash" for doing a spy ops against their nation and violating their sovereignty as I wrongfully destroyed 1 infrastructure from them. Edit: I also declare my nation to have freedom of religion. Disregard what I said about islam in the last post. Edit 2: I would also like to add that there is no state of war between me and The Knights Radiant anymore. TL;DR Sorry TKR, won't happen again.

the only people benefiting are the ones who are able to freely grow their alliances while 75% of the games major players are at war. both sides are losing by trying to save face with these surrender terms

As like everyday, I don't recognize GPWC as legitmate alliance. Not only is the alliance just a Tax Farm but they stole Golden Phoenix Coalitions acronym GPC. So we decided to sue GPWC in a totally unbaised court with me as the judge. The agreement btwn GPC amongst itself is. 1. GPWC will no longer be seen as legitmate alliance (not like it ever was) but rather as an extension of NPO regardless of what Frawley says 2. GPWC will be referred to as jr-NPO or RoqBots. Any alliance who refers to Guniea Pig Whaling Company as GPWC (use of GPWC/RoqBots gets the GPC pass) will also be seen as a RoqBot 3. GPC will have a Valid CB on GPWC and will use it whenever it feels like it. 4. @George (James T Kirk) will be recognized as the Princess of GPC because why not 5. GPC > GPWC/Roqbots Tl;Dr - GPC > GPWC (RoqBots)

1) Select a random player (nation at least 100 days old) from coalition A 2) Do the same with a player from Coalition B 3) Put them in a 1 on 1 chat 4) Stream the chat to everyone 5) They have to do the peace talks, no one can tell them what to do after the start (you can prepare them before) 6) They have to agree before the end of the day Terrible result guaranteed but at least we have some fun

I Think this analogy is a little misleading, too. It's more like One company saying "We have a contract." Then, the other side saying "Okay, Send it over so we can review and sign or counter offer." So, The first company sends over the first page with one line written on it. The second company goes "Is this it?" The first company then giggles to themselves and goes "No. But you have to accept the first page before we'll let you see the rest." The second company raises an eyebrow at the first company as their reps try to contain themselves from shitting each other with laughter and then the Second company goes "We'd like to see the rest, if you don't mind." And the first company goes "OHH OBVIOUSLY YOU JUST WANT THIS TO GO ON FOREVER WITH THINGS LIKE YOUR READING AND YOUR WANTING THE WHOLE CONTRACT TO READ AT ONCE, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE EFFORT FORTH IF YOU CAN'T EVEN ACCEPT THE FIRST LINE OF THE FIRST PAGE. NOW WE'RE GONNA GO OVER HERE INTO THE CORNER AND BE HOSTILE AND BAN YOU FROM TALKING TO US ABOUT IT FOR A MONTH!" Where in then the workers and executives of both companies spend the next 300 pages (Because there have been no less than 6 of these threads hitting the 20 page mark or MORE) yelling at one another and flinging shit across the table at the other side. It's like watching United States Politics in action as an outside observer at this point. fricking Bewildering and you gotta wonder why the next mass extinction event is taking so god damn long.

Who are you again?

Uh oh. I guess it is not to late to stop war the global. Maybe together we can beat this threat

I wonder if Frawley is going to track such a serious opponent of ours.

I would personally recommend this to my enemies so I could raid them easier

All in favor of leaving our alliances and joining Fark in a mass protest against our alliance leaders who refuse to make peace already? If your teacher leader doesn't make peace within 15 weeks you're legally allowed to walk out. That's what my older brother told me.

Is it worth considering how many new players started and stopped playing during that time due to alliance efforts being focused on wartime?

Maybe. But theres not much difference between a nazi and someone who fights at the nazis side for years of the nazis naziing, and is currently trying to defend the nazis by saying their naziness is nazi but it isnt as nazi as some other nazis naziness so its ok.

Thank you for pinging me. In the future, please report any and all posts you see like this, and it will automatically flag them for moderator review. This user has been permanently banned from the forum based on this content I've seen posted here. I have no interest in tolerating pedophilia or pedophilia-apologists on this forum. Locking this topic, as I don't imagine anything else good can come of it now.

From the desk of Pragglesan The greatest nation of Exorock The greatest alliance of Terminal Jest Greetings friends! I am normally not one for theatrics or drama. We received this: Terminal Jest declares war on Pantheona and the Federation. Hugs

I like this announcement. For your next trick will Slick return?

welcome to Paperless Rose