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@Nao found out who that random alliance was in relation to us. Apparently there was a peace deal or some shit I negotiated with them about.

That's actually just Inst and Noctis trying to persuade themselves that their in depth discussions about causes and tactics mean something to anyone but them

He’s NPO, it’s just what they do.

Succ

This thread has devolved significantly from what I viewed as an intentionally facetious post by hope meant to provide humor. The follow up was an over-sized reaction, that much I will not contend. I'm not one to educate people on what they can or can not say, because that offends my sensibilities as well as other's, but I think we can all take a step back. As always, conflict is good for the game. War hard, meme harder. Love you all. ❤️

We intentionally left them out of the initial blitz, as well as Blackfyre and The Federation because we didn't have the manpower to cover all of them and wanted to focus the larger alliances and wait for them to counter. If fighting at a numbers disadvantage is "opportunistic" I think you need to whip out a dictionary and brush up on some things. Also the idea we'd hire some random commie alliance to hit you is laughable and its sad you couldn't be bothered to do your due diligence and verify pretty obvious bullshit before you marched your 3 nations into battle. If that is the actual reason you entered, rather than the one we all assumed, that you were protecting your protector, then lmfao u got played by a micro. Anyway carry on being the only salty person on your side I was getting bored of all the nice people anyway.

Yeah, they ran straight into Guardian like a bunch of lemmings meeting the first cliff they saw.

What does that matter? We chose not to include your alliances in the main blitz. Why we did it is irrelevant to your claim that we hired some micro to hit you. But if you must know, we did it because it gave us time wear down the main alliances. Which worked if you couldn't tell. As for Ayyslamic Crusade, that war would not have taken place at all had we not signed up. We asked for resources from Abbas because we were a newly formed alliance and had none. We literally would not have been able to participate otherwise. I was intimately involved in the planning and execution of it. Yes exactly, you made no effort to confirm it and took them at their word. That is all well and good, but then you decided to come on here and spout it out as fact. So you opened the door for me to criticise you about it, like you tried to criticise us. Now you are just arguing semantics. I was being sarcastic wit hthe 3 nations comment, and no, you attacked first, and Empyrea countered. Literally noone has contested your right to enter the war. You are arguing a strawman I never made. We EXPECTED you to enter the war. The reason we are argung is because you decided to spout some bullshit about hiring a micro as the REASON you entered rather than just saying you did it because your SK. I'm aware you are a training alliance, I was simplifying. It really makes no difference to my argument if you are a protectorate or a training alliance or an extension or w/e you want to call it. You are the one who came on here and starting spouting bullshit you just admitted you never bothered to verify as fact. That is about as disingenuous as it gets. You need to look in the mirror buddy. I've barely posted since this war started, you decided to drop a bomb and now your crying about it because it blew up in your face. You seem to be living in an alternate reality where everyone is out to get you or some shit. We responded directly to your points but your whining about propaganda and misinformed statements.

Well, Inst and Noctis are parading their genius in depth analysis. I think it's fair to say this war has run its course. Time to peace out all wars, y'all. GG.

Not having them on ignore in 2019.

Dear Beerhoe, Hey! I know we haven't talked in a while. You've probably forgotten I exist since our relationship was only ever contractual. I never thought I'd be able to fight against you, since I thought you guys only ever fought opportunistic wars or wars when you had about 10 other alliances on your side, not tough ones. It came to my attention that you found the Seven Kingdoms training alliance, Blackfyre, relevant enough to hire (?) a micro alliance to attack us. In fact, you even gave us a nice nickname; "Bobsphere"(we're stealing that by the way). Anyways, I suppose I should get to the point. Bobsphere recognizes hostilities with Communist Nations of Orbis Signed: Hot Soup Sanctuary Koalition Bruh Moment Cool Kid

how do i delete someone else's nation

....... I have repeatedly told people that this is our war. If they didn’t receive a invite, they’re not on our side. Only KETOG vs. Chaos here. If for some odd reason people have blueballs, I suggest you take a look at your own treaties and position in the treaty web.

Why does Dio always have to ruin everything....

Bloody pirates!!

Dear Beerhoe, My other statement in that post was "with 10 other alliances" which is true since that was what occurred with the Ayyslamic Crusade. I'd also perhaps say it was opportunistic of you to only enter with the intent of collecting a paycheck, but I respect that you gotta do what you gotta do to make that coin. You may say that "Blackfyre hit us first." I'd argue that due to us being an extension of SK, we are still on the defensive. However, the issue I find is that you hired some rando micro to hit us. Where are you big, round hippo balls Beerhoe? Fight us like a hippo, not behind the facade of 6 commies. [CN]Peoples Republic of britainToday at 8:56 PM They help us grow It's an off paper alliance Unless you have some sort of other relationship with them. Perhaps just sign them as a protectorate next time. It doesn't matter to me though. Samuel BatesToday at 8:54 PM They are protected by SK that is in a war [CN]Peoples Republic of britainToday at 8:54 PM Soup kitchen? Samuel BatesToday at 8:54 PM Same bloc War brothers You hit one in opportunity you hit all [CN]Peoples Republic of britainToday at 8:55 PM Idk were just following tgh We have a understanding with them

Bow before me mere mortals

Every time someone almost convinces me that micros should be allowed to post on alliance affairs posts, like this come along and remind me why micros need to be segregated to some remote corner of the forums.

This probably means there is actually no war. Ignore the wars screen, the score drops and Frawley’s war stats. The war is a lie.

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=53088

What really matters is who has the best forum shitposts. That is the real front of any war.

for once we two are on the same page, i was thinking to post that, then scolled down XD 12/10 rating

FTFY

Ok, so you're being stupid now. Got it. >10 other alliances >opportunistic You may want to go back and do your research on Ayyslamic Crusade before I edumacate you. And uh... where's your proof that we hired an outside alliance? Why the frick would I hire some random ass micro that I give no !@#$ about to hit you guys? If I wanted to hit Blackfyre, I'd have done so at the get go. I don't need some shitty unknown micro to do it for me.

When did TGH fight opportunistic wars again? The only one that comes to mind is the TRF hit, and that was very brief to send a point. @hope - Did you suddenly go from fanboi to butthurt or something? Also, didn't Blackfyre hit us first? We purposely avoided hitting Protectorates (Granted I'd prefer to myself, but the other leaders wanted to avoid it). I also don't know who mao is in that screenshot, lol.

Seeing as we are at war with CoS, Hey W, its grumpy.

Can we all just forget this thread altogether, and pretend that no such thing is currently happening?

Where: https://discord.gg/Z2gPsKM When: May 30th, Thursday, 9pm EST US time What: TBD (There's a lot of topics I wanted to hit on previous to most recent events, so I'll see what's most juicy first then edit the lineup here) Why: Because I want to. Who: If I talk about the war, I'll grab a guest from the other side. Hope to see you there.

As the leader of the micro Golden Phoenix Coaliton, we have felt that it should be necessary to create a Micro Affairs subforum. Therefor we can post our poems and drawings from special ed, separate from the top 50 bullies. In all seriousness, we would like one as the micro world and macro world have different politics and would allow those to stop complaining about micros posting unnecessary posts in alliance affairs section when instead we can do it in our section. Micros tend to do crazy things, trust me I've run many (especially to the ground).

Shout out to the nukers gracefully shaving off my infrastructure score. Helps with down decs ❤️

I'll bet missiles

The point you're trying to argue is fairly debatable. It's entirely possible that attempting to cover all of you right at the beginning would have been worse than the strategy that was employed. You don't want to over extend horribly in the first round. That allows reserves (as there is almost no way they could have effectively covered everyone on your side) to enter in and make an already spread out force even weaker. Also, while I am sure you could use guerrilla tactics to some extent or the other, it's not quite in the same category as Valinor or Nova.

well you didnt think valinor or nova were important and look what happened lol

Do you really think you're that important that we would actually hire mercs to hit you? lmao this is the first I heard that SK had a training alliance.

you realize it's a joke, right? it's a meme thread seek some help before posting again

it had to be said

Someone asked me to post new numbers: Made two more columns for whale tiering, just for @TheRebelMan. PS I might have missed some offshores in Chaos because bank hot potatoes.

Yes

They will stop complaining when all of NPO's 150 nations are sitting on 25 cities and they can easily wipe out the whales with proper activity and coordination.

What a good joke, you not the post.

We should start a petition. KETOG please don't agree to peace until Nova surrenders to Pantheon. #IStandWithPantheon