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Things move slowly in the desert. After all, the last time something happened here, the Nile flooded and everything got swamped. And yet as the Egyptians were laying the groundwork for another Pyramid, they came to realise that they’d forgotten to actually do anything at all, aside from building some obnoxious polyhedrons. The first was high time to take a trip down the Nile towards the cooler waters of OWR (Kith-land). Article I: Non-Aggression On account of conflict being detrimental to the export and construction of bloody-great big stone blocks, the growth of “what do you mean, opium poppies?”, and leading to crippling economic depression, the undersigned agree to abstain from any deliberate action contrary to the wellbeing of either signatory. Any and all issues that arise will be resolved through diplomatic channels. Article II: Mutual Defence If a foreign entity tries to cross the Saharan Desert or the equally inhospitable and desolate borderlands of Lancashire and Merseyside, the signatories agree to intervene militarily, politically and, if they desire, economically to assist the other in their defence against aggressors. Article III: Intelligence Sharing If either party should learn of foreign intent to desecrate the Pharaoh’s tomb or trample the fertile Gardens of Spud, the undersigned agree to inform the other party as soon as reasonably possible. Article IV: Non-Chaining Since one both parties totally condemn slavery, they agree that chaining people unnecessarily isn’t nice - unnecessarily being the key word. In the event that a signatory is attacked as a result of their fulfillment of third-party obligations, Article II of this treaty is to be considered optional. Article V: Cancellation Should the Nile run dry or the roses wild, and the treaty be rendered surplus to requirement, either signatory may provide 72 hour notice prior to the termination of this pact. The terms of the treaty remain enforceable until this termination period has elapsed. Signed for Egyptian Empire: El Chach, Pharaoh Asierith, Senior Vizier RedPhx, Senior Vizier Signed for the Order of the White Rose: Sval, Prime Greypher, Legate Luis, Legate Dr Rockso, Legate Kabu, Legate Tl;dr: OWR and EE sign a long overdue MDP and hereby mutually condemn Greypher as an unholy Weeb Yes, we deserve to die for that title

Thanks to EE for helping me complete my article. Congrats on the upgrade, I look forward to the drop of your other protectorates (including the recent drop of Acadia) and your move towards FR.

Week seven was spent, fittingly in Seven Kingdoms. I love these guys so much. They are a ton of fun, their Discord is poppin, Squeesquee didn't leak any of the sekrits we shared, it was a Great! time. I have two major regrets from our time in SK: 1) I was super busy with work and real life and didn't get to spend nearly enough time with them. 2) We failed to coordinate a karaoke night. That said, I feel confident that SK's future is bright in Squeezee's supple hands. They have a tight, cooperative, fun-loving community. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game. They even locked down the naming rights to their color sphere! What more could you ask for in alliance? We're not sure, so that puts Squeebee's Seven Kingdoms in the front runners for future Hobo-homes. --- While we were in The Enterprise, we had our first forever home placement! Doctor Robbins found a niche and decided that the suit and tie were her cup of tea. We wish her all the best and we are ecstatic that the purpose of this joy ride is being fulfilled. We also picked up a handful of new Hobos from across Orbis. Kilo, Hannah, Maia, Kitschie, and This Effing Guy have all hopped aboard our choo-choo train and embraced life on the rails. Our next stop is... Rose! Just in time for their elections. I wonder if they will let us vote... Stay Great! Charlie Traveler

I think it's pretty funny that all the people complaining about Alex interference are generally people who don't approve of VM abuse (war dodging, mainly). Alex made the case that VM = Inactive and then said he doesn't mind helping an alliance get an active player into leadership if the alliance owner goes inactive with no heirs in place. Which is what he did here. I think that's a fine standard, for the most part, and anyone trying to make the case that he is trying to equate going inactive to breaking the rules is just stretching super hard to make a case - he only brought that incident up to contextualize the precedent that, yes, he is perfectly fine getting involved with things like this when he deems it appropriate. We can agree or disagree on whether or not it actually was appropriate all day but at least keep your arguments straight. I think considering the fact that you can't use VM to hide a bank is a pretty good place to inform this instance but instead of hoarding resources and cash this guy was abusing VM to completely gridlock an alliance. Strictly speaking, based on the game rules, VM has a very limited purpose. To pause your nation and make sure it is protected while the player is unable or unwillingly to actively play the game. Anything beyond that is abuse of the mechanic and can warrant Alex's intervention imo. (Sidenote: I'm of the opinion that people in VM should get warns for posting on the forums but that's just me tho.) This dude clearly didnt coup Pantheon and then hop in the car to drive down to the beach lmao. Especially considering he was actively interviewing with basically anybody that reached out to him at the time. So he abused VM mechanics to hurt an entire alliance without offering them a fair way to retaliate within the mechanical confines of the game. So they prayed unto Alex and he spoke down miracles from the heavens.

That's negative. Check this out.

Immigrants asking to vote in Rose elections? What has the world come too..

@Alex if you are going to do this, can you at least give each person 2 seperate api keys, one for public apis (war, alliances/nations etc) and one for private apis (alliance members, bank)? I can't grant edit access to my sheets to anyone now because they'll just be able to open up the script editor and look directly at my api key, then use it to pull whatever private alliance api data they like.

With copious amounts of potatoes and our daily dose of light opiates imported, the next step was a trip to the frontier for some sweet music. With plenty of instruments, but no measurable sense of musical talent, it was time out to outsource the entertainment... Chasing the sunset, the chariots rode west across the desert towards the bright boomtowns of Frontier Records: Rule I of the West: Non-Aggression One must never steal or ride a man’s horse, since it’s as bad as making love to his wife. On account of not paying attention to the world, the Egyptians have no clue what ‘horses’ are, but agree wholeheartedly. No horses, or their dromedary equivalent, will be stolen from each other. Rule II of the West: Mutual Defence One must stay loyal to those you ride with and help out a friend in need - braggarts who drink on duty and cowards who aren’t worth their salt have no place on the frontier. Both parties therefore agree to intervene to assist the other in their defence against aggressors, militarily and politically. Rule III of the West: Intelligence Sharing If the hieroglyphs are on the wall, the pyramids start rumbling, and either party is made aware of any information that affects the security of the other signatory, they hereby agree to transfer all relevant information as soon as reasonably possible. Rule IV of the West: Non-Chaining Once again, as two parties who totally condemn slavery, both signatories agree that the ‘prisoners with jobs’, should be free from shackles. As such, in the event that third-party obligations lead to a signatory being attacked, Rule II of the West is deemed optional. Rule V of the West: Cancellation Not all trails lead into the sunset. If either party wishes to terminate the pact, they must provide 72 hours of notice to the other signatory, so they can finish their whiskey, wrap up their sphinx and find the nearest camel. During this period, the effects of this treaty should be considered active. Signed for Egyptian Empire: El Chach, Pharaoh Asierith, Senior Vizier RedPhx, Senior Vizier Signed for Frontier Records: Board of Directors Alexio15 DemonSpawn Tom Riddle tl;dr - Egyptian Empire and Frontier Records sign an MDP

>El chach still I'm just here waiting for Empryea, I'm sure they won't be as slow as this upgrade.

I mean sure, he can. If he wants everyone to stop playing of course. You say "ah but there's no competition", but look at the various skilled programmers dedicated to the community and, in the mindset of an admin running a company and a game, tell me you feel no fear. The last thing Alex needs or wants is to start alienating the entire game until the community decides to make a game themselves. We already have people as good and better at programming than Alex, and more of them. It's not difficult math.

Death to IQ!

Yes it's weird that people continue protecting pixel hugging trash. Empryea would be doing everyone a favor by slaughtering them.

soooo (former) vanguard was cool with you signing FR? interesting ...

Not using my crappy hand writing, good. Condolences to EE for putting up with my shit XD

I have to agree with Sketchy on this one, he has a really good point. Same as Buorhann, I have no dog in this fight. I am personally happy that Pantheon gets to live on, because I'd also hate to see my alliance get couped by somebody and than subsequently die. I completely understand where both Alex and Ridcully are coming from. I wouldn't be making this post if this player had cheated or broken the game rules. I 100% support you on banning multis and reverting events that those multis caused. However, the player that couped Pantheon was not in violation of any rules, just like you pointed out. Pantheon is fully responsible for their own alliance, they promoted that player to the heir role and having that player in the heir position was their own fault, for which they got punished. If that player goes into VM and their alliance dies, this is no one else's fault but theirs. I think in this scenario, letting this play out would've been the better choice for the game, as this was not the first time Pantheon has made this mistake, and I can bet a lot of money that it won't be the last. I can understand why players would get ticked off when Alex undo's mistakes a specific alliance makes. If they have to re-make their whole alliance because of this, than so be it, because they learned their lesson and aren't getting any special privilege. Having the owner of the game interfere with it when it comes to alliance coups sets a really bad precedent and it's honestly terrifying, especially because it happened through in-game mechanics with no rule violations.

El cach leader? Better be ready to get hit, violating a peace treaty.

Had a great time with all you guys visiting! I wish you safe travels!

If you had actually paid attention: he didn't say going into VM was cheating. He made the case that one player going into VM and paralyzing 100+ others was significant grounds for him to intervene on the side of those actively still playing. If dude had not gone into VM things would have been totally different but he basically quit the game mid-power play on this one. f

holy cheeseitz this thread is still going

Hopefully y'all protect your bank better this time around

I better be seeing all War declarations in Latin or someone’s getting fired.

But why is this even a debate to begin with? As far as I'm concerned, Alex is God of Orbis and supreme ruler of the game. What he says goes and he can essentially do whatever he deems to be the right thing to do. I sincerely doubt any manner of discussion will change that fact and if people don't like the admin interfering in the game, they could always stop playing.

This disagreement is about common sense. I mean I guess you could say PnW lacks common sense. No argument there. If that's what you think Alex said, then you really didn't read between the lines. The only trash here belongs to you for either lacking deeper understanding or not appreciating what's understood. If you don't get it, then you're unworthy of enlightenment. If you don't appreciate it, then you're too hopeless to bother.

But Aslan the moderator annulled the war declaration at the end of the thread?

I can't support either of you, honestly.

I still haven't learned how to play HoI3. I want to dominate South America! Stupid Monroe Doctrine.

Holy crap. Some serious real life religion conflict going on here.

Well, Kastor single-handedly made TLF relevant in some way, briefly.

Ha!

Why is it that Mensa only generates hate from those that can be classified under the PC-crowd?

I see a list of names. We know that Pfeiffer can be hard to deal with, but Avruch? What did they do to you?

Principles of Finance will kill you then, either that, or you'll murder your professor. Goodluck with that course.

Been watching YouTube videos on this. I remember when I played Rainbow 6 back in early 2000s. I was really good at this game at the local game store. Very tempted to buy this one. Looks great!

I think that was an old post, John. Edit: Oh, it's not. Interesting. Maybe due to the whole Kastor/Cornerstone issue.

Mensa may be sensitive, but have you looked at a mirror lately? What was it that you pushed onto IR back during that conflict again? I see a lot of similarities here, except that Mensa is stronger and better than SWF.

What did Mensa fail at though?

You swear and insult a lot for calling out an alliance having sensitive members. Pot Kettle Black?

So you're saying that you should get a free pass for insulting alliances?

Personally I think the percentages of the perks are too high. 10% is borderline. Perks are nice, but you don't want them to absolutely break the game.

Not really. Bush realized he needed to do something, so obviously you'd attack the top dog. It was a hail mary attempt and he did well on it, but he didn't destroy Trump. Destroying Trump would mean his numbers would plummet, but Trump will still be the front leader after he committed to the Republican Party. The only person Trump has to worry about is Cruz at the moment.

I hope so. I had a lot of fun when we got dogpiled on during The Great VE War.

Get a hold of yourself. This is pathetic.

Hurry back or I might develop a crush on someone else, like Yosodog.

You just made his day.

I find it interesting that Putin endorses/likes Trump. I figured Trump would be the kind of politician that Putin wouldn't like, as Trump seems to be more of a hawk-ish "Don't mess with America" style that would definitely get in the way of Russian affairs. Perhaps Putin knows his endorsement would hurt Trump's campaign then?

I've changed from a Southern Baptist to a Nondenominational viewpoint of Christianity. Mostly didn't like the way how Baptist churches were being ran. I wanted something more relaxed, something that didn't judge others too harshly.

Do it.

Don't know much about Sigma other than some folks really disliked them. Goodluck to whatever endeavors the folks of Sigma went to though.

Actually the reason he intervened is because a long time ago it was said somewhere that if there is an alliance with no leadership (IE: No heirs/Leaders or ALL Heirs/Leaders are Vacation Mode) you can request him to intervene and he will promote the next person up. Those are the DM some sent and probably had no response from Alex. However there were two OTHER messages sent. "Sheepy, what can we do if an alliance member performs a coup and then enters Vacation Mode immediately after demoting all heirs?" and "I am Ridcully of Arcania of Pantheon. I messaged you on Discord as well. We had a coup that occurred in the government and they demoted all heirs and then entered Vacation Mode. I am aware that you cannot leave VM early. Is there any way to promote me to Leader while they are in Vacation mode to prevent the collapse of the alliance or is VM Couping considered a legitimate tactic in the eyes of the Game to collapse an alliance? Thanks for your time and consideration, Ridcully" Read and remember the rules. Sometimes they work in your favor.

Sure you do. I did when I couped pantheon. Can't hit a nation that deleted and rerolled lol.