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1. So are you saying you'll step down and hand him the alliance over when he gets out of vm? 2. Did you just lie to the admin and game the rules to your advantage? 3. Does this set a precedent where couping an alliance is against the rules, and will all coups be reverted?

Lol that wasn't long. Seriously want to hear the reason why it was fine to intervene in game politics this time.

It's time we had an old good fashioned revolt here. Extreme admin/mod bias here. "Lemme just play God here for you"

I actually with Alex on this one. VM is meant for people to temporarily pause playing while they have other distractions IRL. It's not meant to avoid wars. Nor to paralyze alliances by taking control and them VMing, so that regardless of further politics / negotiating between players, it is now impossible to actually do anything for 2 weeks. It's pretty clear VM abuse, and I think we should be more strict on that, not less (especially with wartime shenanigans). If he had stayed in power and tried to hold the alliance hostage, raise the taxes, etc, that would be another thing and he absolutely should not be removed in such cases. Maybe he should have just been forced out of VM, but he definitely should not be allowed to VM while the sole leader of the alliance.

Yes it is. If you're in Vacation Mode you can't manage alliance permissions or do anything. Your nation is frozen, so effectively there is no leader. In cases where there is no leader (it doesn't happen very often, but it does happen. It is the point of the Heir position after all, that if there is an inactive or no leader they can promote themselves and take care of things) if the active members of the alliance request it, I'll appoint someone to the leadership spot so that the alliance isn't basically defunct (i.e. they don't have to all leave the alliance and startover, which would be a huge pain.) It doesn't happen very often, but it does happen (maybe once every few months) and this is how I've always handled it. In this case I just appointed the most senior nation in the alliance to the leadership spot, which is about as fair of a determination as I can make for who ought to be leader. Yeah, that would be a good fail-safe restriction to put in place. EDIT: And just to be clear, I don't care if you guys coup each other as long as it's within the rules. Most of the time when a coup happens, it's an obvious multi and they get banned and I undo the action (same with alliance bank stealing) because the rules were broken in the execution of the plan, which just isn't fair to the victims if someone else can cheat and steal all their stuff/alliance. In this case, I did thoroughly check the "couping" nation to make sure they were not a multi, did not find them in violation of any rules (and therefore I did not punish them, or even remove them as a leader) I just simply appointed another leader who was active so that the alliance was not stuck with an inactive leader, which as I've said is standard procedure. And regardless of whether someone is logging in or not, if they're in Vacation Mode I'd consider them inactive. VM nations have no ability to manage the alliance and their nations are frozen, so their usefulness is indistinguishable from a truly inactive nation, hence why I appointed another leader to manage things in their absence.

Being in VM isn't the same as no leadership. You used the moderation of the game to undo a coup. Its not "the rules" and if it is, it shouldn't be. Sheepy should not interfere in politics.

This is Shifty coming in with some dank news Pantheon has been couped again. https://prnt.sc/mx3pmu https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=1896 It happens every year, multiple times. It's like the changing of the season.

@Alex if I let you delete 150m of my money, would you promote me to Leader of Rose? Is this considered a legitimate tactic in the eyes of the game? Thanks for your time and consideration, CuppyCakeYums

Perfectly describes what was sent to Sheepy @Alex This is a hilarious plot twist lmfao

Looks like it happened sooner than I expected. Remember guys, couping is now illegal without Sheepy's permission.

My opinion on what would be ideal is for everyone to be able to promote themselves one level if there is no-one at all above them; with the following rules: (A). If there is no leader, then the heir can promote themselves up to leader; if the leader is VM, the heir can remove the leader from the alliance outright and then therefore promote themselves up to leader in that order, if multiple heirs whoever does it first gets it (B). If there is no leader AND no heir, then any single officer can promote themselves up to heir, and therefore up to leader, in that order, first on the draw gets it; if there is no leader or the leader is VM and the heir is VM, then any single officer can remove the absentee heir and/or leader and therefore do the thing (in order, first come first serve) (C). If there is no leader AND no heir AND no officers outside of VM, then any member can simply promote themselves to officer and therefore heir and therefore leader. If all of the leadership are VM then any member can boot 'em all and take control. For extra shenanigans, let applicants count as members for the purposes of these rules :3

What he said, although I like the OP suggestion as well, all except for increasing the cost of stadiums because well, people who don't play baseball shouldn't be hindered by this and neither would the people who don't play baseball (also, the majority) agree to that change.

The best buff to baseball would be more along the lines of both players getting ticket money instead of just the host team; say each individual game is actually a set of both a home and an away game. The reason I don't do baseball is because I don't want to go through the insane hassle of embargoing literally everyone in the game individually so I can grind baseball with just those that reliably tip.

Amazing that Pantheon probably has had more coups than a banana republic and still survives in the top 10.

Et tu, Brute?

I think it would be really nifty (and make investing baseball worth it) if stadiums(the city improvement) has an affect to increase the revenue of ticket sales by 2.5% per stadium improvement, with a max cap of 52.5% (or 21 stadium improvements, or 3 stadiums in 7 cities). The weird number is because stadiums are maxed at 3 stadiums per city. Baseball is a very powerful investment, but it is very time consuming and costs a lot of money to use, deterring many players away from it and favoring more conventional methods of revenue such as trade, maxing commerce, or through Raids. By increasing the rewards with something that players can better influence, more people would actually use baseball. However, even a 52.5% increase in ticket sales isn't as much as you would think, because a match produces an average of $6000, and a 52.5% increase would mean a match would make it $9150 per match, witch isn't much unless you grind baseball with another person for an hour making well over 10K per hour. To balance this mechanic, I believe that a increase in the cost of stadiums from &100000 and 40 steel/50 aluminum to $150000 and 50 steel/50 aluminum would work.

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Please, if anyone can tell you getting a name change to stick is a futile, Sisyphean task, it's Leo.

>when you binge watch castlevania and forget to read up on orbis central Rip me, i did just go and check that. Wasn't aware even temporary VM counted, personally. i do understand the logic behind it though.

How is it a lie ? Mel did removed eveyone from leader to heir and head to VM. RId has already explained about the unspoken rules.

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Holy hell, somebody drag this horrible typing out back and put it down.

Mother, I will undertake to do this deed, for I reverence not our father of evil name, for he first thought of doing shameful things.

Generally speaking if you really want to coup a place you should actually stick around long enough to watch things play out instead of hopping into VM. Very disappointing. Little thought put in, poor spin, and absolutely zero follow through. I give it a 2/10. Micros have done better.

Looks like Sean Anthony has competition

Now accepting Refugees and Political Prisoners We will now be accepting refugees and political prisoners from Panthon, only one simple condition *dont be shit* .BK Provides a "safe" space to all new comers and best of all we dont get couped 3 times a year! Apply here: https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=877

Two days off from the one year anniversary.

I’m at 2439 page views on my nation, but I think it would be a more interesting stat if it only tallied unique views every 24 hours. Currently someone could boost it just by refreshing the page, but that could be easily changed I think.

Grammer Nazi aside, there is something we can build off of this abut lacking proposal. The basic idea of morale is basically this: (people are happy) = (buffs in war) So let's work with this. Morale can be based off of how many victories in a war, or based off of your government approval rating. So how about when a war is imitated, both sides have a base morale of 10, with 1 morale added per 20% of your government approval rating, so you can start with a max of 15 or a min of 10. Morale will go up or down depending on victories or defeats. So what will morale boost? The 3 options are either increase in casualties, increase of attack/defense rolls, a tiny boost in resistance damage, or any combination of the 3. Obviously resistance wouldn't be increased for nukes or missiles. Also I think morale shouldn't be a boost that is dependent on how much government rating or war victories you have, and instead boost you by a flat rate if you have more morale than your opponent. This way weak nations with low government ratings because of war loss won't take more than usual damage from their next opponent. its a unique idea and having morale based on government rating would make people actually care about controlling their pollution, disease, and crime even more than just a cap for their troops. Also I think the propaganda project should increase your morale by 1 as well.

Boi, keep spying my allies and I might actually have a birthday present for you. Congrats on the alliance birthday

>Is one year old >Has accomplished nothing >Is AD Gotcha! Really hate to be a party pooper, but AD seems like the perfect example, of what not to be.

You say high definition, and yet your flag's a .jpg...

Pre, if you want to keep your images maybe also try making the imgur link http instead of https. That's what solved a lot of the broken image issues with imgur before.

Sup. Argie here. English is my third language, yet I still put more effort into constructing proper sentences than you do. For starters, it makes it easier for others to understand what the frick you're trying to say. Secondly, it shows that you're putting at least an ounce of effort into it, rather than just shitting it out there. Thirdly, to consistently type out like this can and does lead to bad habits later on. You've got no excuses for your appalling, kindergarten-grade typing. As for the proposal itself, it's nonsense. Firstly, as others have pointed out, Pyrrhic is still a victory, and it's coded as such in the resistance damage where it deals a reduced amount but still deals some damage in that regard. Utter failures are net neutrals for resistance so there's that too. Your proposal is inconsistent with current systems. Secondly, this notion that only defenders should benefit from war morale is nonsense. Both in real life and games, war morale goes both ways, or do you seriously think that events such as the quick fall of France in World War 2 didn't have a boosting effect on the German morale and war support? Thirdly, it wouldn't even achieve what you're seeking due to material disparity, unless the guys that are gang-banging on the other guy are that incompetent or that outmatched, in which case they would still have a hard time regardless of war morale. If you're having problems with being constantly gang-banged, either join a better alliance or improve your own. Don't waste Alex's time with such worthless additions. The above took exactly 5 minutes and 13 microseconds to type out, for the record.

Lmao it isnt that hard to use decent grammar. I use mobile and still can create functional sentences. #NoExcuse

okay, see, it doesn't actually take that much more time to type properly. Not everyone can be a speedy typist, but it took me under a minute to write this. Do better.

>SPQR. >No yearly elected consul duo. What kind of counterfeit Republic is this?

2 hours max.

A five city nation leading the fourth largest alliance. I have to ask. Is this some sort of... Off-season april fools joke? Is there something i'm not getting here?

It's a long standing tradition in Pantheon to have the bank stolen. Almost a right of passage for a new gov.

icecream for everyone ^.^ rawr

Press X to doubt.

Please for the love of god tell me hes a reroll of a long term notorious player and not a 5 city 92 day old nation

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=142925 cool

So, will the new gov undo all the bans and such from your discords that you did simply to avoid any slight confrontation? Regardless, any Pantheon without you leading it already shows more promise. Good luck to the new gov!

Only need TFP and we're one step closer to causing an integer overflow so we're in positive damage. \o/

Ayyyyy Imao

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