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Sooooooo Arrgh and NSR decided to mass raid us.... Have a nice day! Atlas recognizes hostilities with Arrgh and NSR

Pantheon government be like: But wait? What if there's more to the story? Shifty explores post-Purple Ba'athist state Pantheon and reveals the plot to radicalize Pantheon locals against freedom.

Yessss… Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss...… Argue and bicker amongst yourselves, while you blame each other for the NAP, the true threat watches with amusement, and grows with strength. First six months of peace... then the... fall... of Pantheon.... then the next step in the....plaaaaaaaaaan…...

Trying to target yui, arguably the most beloved person in this game, smart move.

Ring ring :^)

Fist deleted at the beginning of Pantheon's first war, leaving them to what at that point looked like a likely disbandment, but is clearly the hero Pantheon needs right now. Yui stepped up and saved Pantheon from that, but is obviously a traitor and a terrorist for something that happened months after they left Pantheon. Makes perfect sense.

True in general, but I don't think it applies to this case. Yui is one of main reasons Pantheon's community weathered their first war. I honestly can't fathom the alliance having made it this far without her. ....the fact that she is also about the nicest person imaginable is just icing on the proverbial cake.

I love you Atlas

We couped pantheon so we could put a puppet leader in place. Then once we had him in place we made sure he created tension between Pantheon and TKR's only MDP treaty partner. Once this was succesfully accomplished we decided to have them ally t$ rather than sign a treaty with us. Why you ask? Because it is dynamic.

I was just going to delete these screenies, but... To read that members of the current Pantheon Gov. purported their propaganda campaign purposefully, that it was an actual plan to misinform Pantheon members and discredit the previous administration, and to continually diss like the likes of Yui on purpose... well I have to say something. Apologies to Emperor/Fistandantilus in advance. Your government did the right thing and deleted this propaganda post after a few hours, but it's still a pretty crappy thing to do, and you need to look at the people you surround yourself with if they decided to start immediately calling anyone who left Pantheon a coward/traitor/terrorist and try to turn the membership of Pantheon against them. Framing this as anything other than two sides that disagreed -- one that sided with Fist, one that sided with the previous Pantheon Gov. -- was wrong. This is my first post on the new forums, can everyone see the attachments properly? Did I do it right? I'll understand if Fist wants me to leave after I post this, but until I'm asked to leave, I'm going to continue to stick up for Yui and Co. in the Announcements subforum (I don't have time to follow Pantheon Discord for in a game I don't even play anymore, lol). *EDIT: I have received a request to remove these screenshots and leave it at "I disagreed with what they were saying to our Pantheon members and spoke up. They have since deleted the propaganda post discussed in Shifty's screenshots quoted above." I'll do so if the current Panth Gov. comments here. Fist has said he's about to reply, so I'll go ahead and remove the screenshots. All I really wanted to do was expose what was being done. Now that Panth Gov. is walking back the propaganda to me in private and says they'll post here in public, they're not really necessary. *EDIT 2* Fist's reply is now its own topic:

Like people who never got involved in a war and continually trash those that did due to an outcome that you didn't like?

I have never been a member of Pantheon but I spent a lot of time in their discord and was even in their private member channel for some time. From what I can tell Yui has spent so much time for Pantheon and was so dedicated to the alliance. She even stayed as an advisor after she had already left. I have never met anyone who disliked Yui and she left long before Pantheon had gotten into its current situation. To slander her like that is just unbelievably disgusting. If I had been a member of Pantheon under Yui's leadership and still was one right now, then - if nothing else - this would be the point where I would stick it to their new government. I'm disgusted. Some people are just liked because they're genuinely nice people. Not everything is about the game.

And just when you thought they had finished suffering.

How....Orwellian. lmfao This whole situation is pretty hilarious, removing most of the people concerned with actually reforming Pantheon, leaving only the really unhinged low gov apparently, blocking a merger that would have likely improved the lot of all your members, and then trashing the alliance on the other end of the marger, while taking help from their ally (I assume that help has since ended). Its good to see that most of the worthwhile people have left Pantheon, leaving it a husk of its former self full of selfish whales and apparently totalitarian role-players or something. Seems like t$ backed the wrong horse in this particular dispute, I don't see them being of much use.

And more short-term, and given that anime seems to be such a despicable thing; when will Avien get the boot? This is quite the large amount of anime he's got on his nation.

Yeah, you did it correct. It can be seen. It would be nice if other Pantheon members would reflect on the situation like this. However, considering that cakey allegedly still owes money to Pantheon and got banned the second he entered Pantheon's discord to talk about those "debts" makes me assume that you ought to expect a removal soon. I don't know if you can talk about loyatly in the case of RightHonorable. He literally joined them yesterday because it got him a high government position. As far as I know, he has never been a member of Pantheon before. And the first thing he does is invent a bunch of lies about their former leader who helped them when Fist abandoned Pantheon.

''Things went from bad to worse in an exponential fashion ever since we took over. Should we examine whether we had a hand on it or not?'' ''Nah, let's blame people who haven't been in the AA itself for months now.'' 10/10 plan.

Pantheon's gov was taken over by fist (the same guy who rage quit on them in silent) who took privileged information to use for his own gains. He convinced rid to give him power then changed the charter without discussion to give himself absolute power. He removed the in game permissions of the old gov and started installing his friends in places of power. Many of the old gov and several members left coming here. Given their relationship with my other gov members it seemed only natural to agree to protect them.

Thanks for the reminder dude - I have a few dead ones that also have a separate server for a fricking embassy. Like..why?

The Commonwealth is an alliance based on strength and growth through unity and friendship and The Dixie Union are a union of nations who pursue the betterment of each other and strive to preserve the culture of the South, while seeking peace through negotiation and strength in unity for their cause. These are the simple things these alliances are seeking and is the main reason for this treaty but also we are good friends. Let's seek Strength through unity. o/ Signed by The Dixie Union President: Damon Vice President: Dark Signed by The Commonwealth Prime Minister: Felkey Minister of State: Julian Rederic Gray Minister of Foreign Affairs: Purplemoon/Yui Minister of Defense: Kalev60

One way or another, Pantheon was going to get screwed. They were making bad decisions left and right, and they weren't listening to advice that friends of theirs was trying to give them. Old gov, new gov - it doesn't matter, both of them fricked up. The only "decent" decision made was them potentially merging into TCW, but then that would've opened up a whole new barrel of issues for TKR later down the road.

Come on, Buorhann, derailing threads is suppose to be Who Me's shtick.

"This disgusting act of terrorism shall not be forgotten and all traitors will be punished and destroyed. Pantheon shall not forget. But we are not strong enough right now." @The God Emperor of Mankind Will Pantheon be taking action against these traitors in the future?

Silly you. Of course Jan Orwell, with his astonishing 8 days of history, knows more about years-old history than you, a person that has been playing for the paltry sum of 1237 days. How dare you go against what such a knowledgeable and well-versed person has to say?

It will only slow it down for players who only leech, like you, and will be instantly embargoed. For the rest it will increase baseball played as they are not timing baseball to avoid players like you.

I'd still add in the Embargo feature so i'm not being paired up with 1.27 score teams that bring me next to nothing.

And so both Greek alliances fall today Ayy lmao

My idea, Simply remove the Away/Home part of baseball. Just have a single option to play baseball. When you play baseball, it would make your team play the other team once in your home field, and once in their home field. Winners still take some more for winning. This would effectively be a built-in 50-50 system, also it would allow for everyone to play with everyone else without really getting salty about leeching. This is just my simple idea, if you disagree, tell me what you would like to change.

Net happiness increase is the ultimate goal.

As it turns out, people don't like it when you bring in the guy who bailed on you mid-war 18 months ago and make him leader. Go figure.

Don't think TKR has anything to do with this. The way things have gone is not beneficial to them in my opinion. Seems someone orchestrated for Fist to return. Right Honourable is loyal to fist so I guess he followed.

I don't often post on the OWF, but today I feel compelled to. I do not know Sphinx or Cakey very well, but Purplemoon is my friend and what I am reading here about her makes my blood boil. This smear campaign is a disgusting display of why name and content do not always match. RightHonourable is neither right nor honourable. That the new Pantheon gov would willfully spread lies to damage those whose existence they deemed inconvenient while simultaneously claiming their lies to be the truth is of a morality so low, I can barely see it anymore. Purple is unbelievably nice and sincere. I feel that I cannot keep up with her on that. Once, Pantheon was supposed to become my home if I ever left TUE or if TUE failed. Thankfully it hasn't yet come to that, because Pantheon is no longer my home-to-be. Purple being present and active in a place is a seal of approval for that place for me. Where she is, friendliness reigns and I need no other indication for that. I have seen a lot of scummy behavior in this game, but only this managed to enrage me enough to reply. Shame on all those who have instigated this smear campaign. I hope you're happy now, in the ruins of the gods of Greece.

You were free to join the war on either side and influence the decision to sign the NAP. You chose not too, you also chose to live with whatever the coalitions came up with.

It is nice to see some of the more consistently loyal members of Pantheon chime in. Not to say that fist and RightHonorable aren't necessarily loyal to Pantheon, in some manner, more that they haven't actually been present to experience the events and context leading up to recent decisions.

hey new pantheon gov... you have a leak!

The idea for clubs are for members to kinda build their own audience and discuss what they want with the people that also like that specific topic. So, here are some more 'relaxed' rules for you all: (note, these rules are only for clubs) Inappropriate Imagery Porn/Nudes/Shock Images - common sense. If you're mom didn't want you looking at it as a kid, it shouldn't be here. Terrorism Groups If you support terrorists of any type, from any year/time, you're going to have a bad time. Don't do it. Nazi Groups Groups that represent nazis and support nazis will not be allowed. Feel free to talk about them in discussion, but we aren't about to make a new reich here on the PW forums. Hate Speech! There is a think line here, most opinions today are considered 'hate speech' - discussion is a discussion, but blatantly hating on a person or a group is gonna be against the rules. Best thing to do, make a closed club and select your audience. Common Sense If you're creating a club, you are auto-agreeing to the common sense rule. Keep it chill, don't do anything that would normally be considered wrong in the public or in front of jesus/santa/or whatever you consider to be held to high standards. Have Fun With it This is a new thing for the community, have fun and make it creative.

Have fun Arrgh and NSR

Do it Max, imagine it. Close your eyes, take deep breaths, become one with your environment, and imagine it. You're there, a little 7 city nation, raiding some overzealous shittalker, who has hundreds of millions in their alliance bank, and they're the only real member, when suddenly, they deny your attempt to raid them because it would steal the bank. Feel the anguish, the soul crushing sorrow, then feel the pressure build, the heat comes on, the rage grows and explodes, as you buy yourself a plane ticket to whatever mental aslyum Sheepy lives in, and burn it all to the ground, laughing happily as you do. Are you imagining it, Max? Do you see it? My suggestion as always is to just allow people to loot banks if you're fool enough to let them.

What do you mean we aren't here to debate the embargo solution? Anything that is a *suggestion* is up for debate and feedback, just because you want to denounce it entirely, doesn't mean I can't try to convince you, if you choose to not debate it, that's pure ignorance. Also I don't recall the "different solution" you're referring so please inform me again so I can account for it and maybe reconsider my previous statements regarding the team embargo. If for the sake of compromise, 45/55 will appease you, I will agree to those terms, although I still disagree that winner should take majority. Abuse means to utilize something for anything other than its intended use. Baseball is intended to pass time while also creating a secondary source of income. If Flavee chooses to use his time playing baseball, that is still considered passing the time and within the grounds of its intended function. I would say that using a bot is both, cheating, and abuse; but not one nor the other.

I think most can agree that facing less players whom are willing to cooperate and split profits, is way better than facing the same amount of players who don't share their profits. What's the point in playing against leeches if all you're going to make is a meager amount of cash? "This change sounds like its coming soon enough, its fortunate I started Baseball when I did to help you guys out of a mess. If you had experience with systems you would see the problem." Oh lordy, lordy, our messiah has arrived, thank Jesus we're being saved.

I really do need to take an hour out to re-organize them and leave a lot of them. I'm part of a lot of dead Discords too.

Generally took me a bit to figure it out, actually. Tended to write them off as some random idiot.

It's not so much a freedom of speech issue as much as it is a freedom from kastor thing.

This looks good. Also,

Not for long

Per Alex's to-do list, it is going to happen. You're essentially just complaining to complain at this point.

my condolences to all involved rawr